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puppyblew
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posted October 27, 2004 02:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what are the differances between venus in pisces as opposed to venus in aqua.? they both are "lovers" in a sense that they seem to love everyone in an altruistic worldly way. BUT, aqua. is distanced and pisces is clingly (in a way). pisces can also be distant and even when in love can appear "foggy" and non-commital. they both seem to see into the future and envision a peaceful world. so, what are the major differances between venus in both the signs?

i have venus in pisces and don't get along with venus in aqua. people in a relationship sense. i'm afraid our venuses were the major problem. i was clingy, wanting a closer relationship, but was able to distance myself and see the relationships as something spiritual and love the person with out having that commitment - even when he was dating others. the aqua. guy saw it more as a friendship and was distant. we pretty much got along except for the fact that i NEEDED to hear that he loved me more often. he would act aquarian and never come outright and say it, but used high faluting language about society to show it. in the end i couldn't take something so distant.

any thoughts on how the last two signs of the zodiac while so similar can have such a fundamental differance? are pisces just to clingy and needy in the end? in astrology pisces has something to teach aquarious, but i felt as if i was just emotionally immature wanting closeness and to be one when compaired with his worldy, focused on the bigger picture venus in aqua. i always just resorted to playing the martyer - saying "i love you" pure and simple. that was all i needed to say and i think he saw it as immature. to me, it said everything. it might not have been worldy, because it was focused on him, but at least i wasn't afraid to say it! to me pisces' job it to teach aqua. to be more open to love and say it more and realize that just loving one person may mean more in the end than loving everyone. you can't be involved when you only graze the surface. it's like that saying "to the one you love, you may be the world." (or however it goes, but you get the drift.

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Xisiqomelir
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posted October 27, 2004 09:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can do it if the Venus/Aquarius man is Sun in Pisces.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted October 27, 2004 11:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every relationship is give and take. It's not simply a matter of what you think you can teach another person, but also what they can teach, provide or do for you. Yes Pisces may be able to teach Aqua a thing or two about spiritual love, but Aqua can teach Pisces a thing or two about detachment, objectivity and giving another person space. Pisces needs space, because otherwise, it becomes absorbed in its partner and loses all sense of itself. Because it is a mutable sign and has trouble with doing things agaisnt its nature, even when it's necessary for the Pisces, it often needs someone who can guide them. Aqua is ideal for helping Pisces with this. Not only can Aqua guide Pisces, it is detached and egalitarian enough not to crush Pisces's rather transparent and delicate self of sense in the process like more aggressive or demanding signs.

Actually same planet Pisces-Aqua pairing often do well, *if* the individuals are receptive. I have Pisces moon and do very well with most Aqua moon people. But I also have alot of Uranus-Aqua influence that yearns to teach my Pisces moon a sense of detachment, so Im more open to that kind of relationship.

Another thing is that both Aqua and Pisces require a lot of maturity on the part of their natures. While this affects each signs differently, they are on equal footing in terms of how much that each has to grow into their gifts. Both are complex and deep signs with hidden depths. Young Aquas often fail at understanding or even acknowledging their intense emotions, insisting to live in their heads and kept preoccupied with cerebral or other distracting matters. Young Pisces often fail to either understand the need for objectivity and detachment in relationships, OR tend to be so "otherworldy" and/or lost in daydream/surreality that they not present in the here and now enough to form genuine one-on-one relationships (or they flipflop between the two, liek a certain Pisces I currently know _. The strengths of both these signs are like heavy, sophisticated tools that takes a lifetime for its natives to learn to use properly and in a balanced, healthy way that is good for themselves and others. Otherwise, they're like a child swinging a sword two times its own size in a china shop.

I wouldn't write off your difficulties so readily as simple incompatiblity - it's really never that simple. I think it's just you'll need to do a little more soul-searching yourself and be more careful of what Aqua types you choose to get involved with in the future, steering clear fromt he emotionally-imature ones and towards the more mature, well-rounded ones.

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proxieme
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posted October 27, 2004 11:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GemNymph - That is a wonderful understanding of both Fish and Waterbearers.
I'm a Pisces Sun w/ an Aqua Moon, a first House Uranus Trine my Sun, and a 2nd House Neptune involved in a Saturn/Neptune/Sun t-square married to an Aqua with a (very) heavily aspected Pisces Mars, with a first House Uranus conj. Jupiter (oy) sextile his Sun. That is to say, we're both (er) swimming in the energy, and I've seen much of what you're talking about (both sides) come into play.

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astro junkie
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posted October 27, 2004 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"VENUS IN AQUARIUS

The native is extremely fond of mental pursuits and he becomes deeply involved with his friends and in helping others. He is energetically faithful to his friends and he would rather suffer himself than to deceive a friend. On the other hand the native will suffer vivid depression and unhappiness when such an attitude is not returned. He will suffer great disappointment if he is let down by friends. He must be warned about the danger of these periods of obstruction and difficulty concerning his friends.

The capacity for artistic expression is enhanced and, with the proper training, the ability for singing, music and acting can be developed."

"VENUS IN PISCES

Venus is exalted when posited in this sign and its radiations signifies a hospitable, sympathetic nature, easily impressed and fond of corrective work in institutions. The native feels strongly attached to persons of a weak or afflicted mind or body. The inner desire for compassion and peace for the world finds its most efficient outlet in helping the poor souls who are suffering.

The nature here is highly emotional and the native often suffers through love as he becomes deeply and emotionally absorbed in his loved ones.

The position indicates some financial gain through the assistance of friends and a very basic and successful intuitive mind in business affairs."

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Mama Mia
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posted October 27, 2004 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me too Prox I am Pisces w/Aqua Moon and inlove with a guy that is Aqua Sun w/Sag moon. And we share alot of the same energies.
I see so much too that Gem Nypmh in both signs too. I also have Veuns in Aqua, but maybe it is differnt for women. But Gem you hie it on the head when you said for puppyblew to soul search and seek out a more emotional mature Aqua, that would work cause any other way is crazy know first hand...

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puppyblew
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posted October 29, 2004 03:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you gemini nymph. what you said made sense. yeah, i understand that we BOTH have something to learn from one another. i guess maybe i'm just one of those immature venus in pisces my venus is at 29 degrees. it makes me feel sometimes that i just *can't* get something, and until i understand it, i will not move on.

our venuses connecting was very weird. it gave me a headache sometimes when i tried to figure out the benifits/negatives of global vs. personal love. i would grasp what he was saying and feel ok, but then a day later, be like "wait a second - you took advantage of me again. you just manipulated me into changing my mind." and then he would totally not get where i was coming from because i was fine with the detachment yesterday. but, i do feel as though the problem lie in the fact that i was in love with him and he wasn't with me. it made me take everything so personal, that i could not detach from it. we had so many arguements on what love is. no wonder i thought he liked me.
he thought that there were differant types of love but i saw them as all being one - that love as an energy is a whole. very mental. stinkin' aqua muking up love with the brain! j/k! you think i could have tricked him into realizing he felt something for me with all this mental love talk. i thought it was obvious that i was in love with him. i told him one time and he was like "i'm confused". yeah, well so am i!

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astro junkie
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posted October 29, 2004 07:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does he have any Cancer placements?

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sthenri
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posted October 29, 2004 07:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Aqua can be really stubborn about opinions, and will argue with a loved one. Venus in Pisces would rather withdraw than ever argue, Venus in Pisces is above that, more spiritual, therapeutic.

I like Venus in Pisces so much because it's a perfect blend of the male and the female, sensitive but strong. It's exalted.

Venus in Aqua and I argue too much but that's because Aqua wants respect more than love.

Natasha
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theFajita3
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posted October 29, 2004 10:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
natasha, that does seem to ring true-- I am venus in aqua and I find myself wanting respect more than love..or at least fighting that battle much more than I would for love.

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theFajita3
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posted October 29, 2004 10:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
see respect makes sense to us, love is cool but more emotional

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puppyblew
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posted October 30, 2004 01:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A.J. he has his ascendent and jupiter in cancer. we both have our mars in libra.

this is the guy who i told i was in love with, and never got an answer. i know venus in aqua. likes to ignore the person they love, but gee, thanks.

i'm so thinking about getting back with my libra. i'll make a new post about this so you guys can tell me what you think. i need as much help as i can get.

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astro junkie
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posted October 30, 2004 03:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does he have any aspects from his Asc or Jupiter to his Mars?

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puppyblew
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posted October 30, 2004 03:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he has his ascend. in 23 cancer
jupiter in 29 cancer r
and mars in 22 libra

i'm beginning to think it's just because he has a cappy sun! in my opinion capricorn and aqua. makes for a screwed up person. sorry if that offends anyone, but man, if you had to spend sometime with this guy.

he also has merc. in aqua. i think that the cappy ego combined with the distant aqua is pretty nasty. like "i'm smarter than you are. nah nah nah!" i swear it's the venus in aqua. everything else seems to show understanding. i mean i get cappies. my dad is one! they are shy about love, but i saw none of this underneath this guy.

me*********************him
cappy rising **********cancer rising
taurus sun*************cappy sun
virgo moon*************taurus moon
merc. in gem.**********merc. in aqua.
venus in pisces********venus in aqua
mars in libra**********mars in libra


it just looks like similar elements and understanding and everything. but man, what happened.....

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astro junkie
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posted October 30, 2004 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AH HA!

There's tight aspect between his Cancer Asc & his Libra Mars. That's what I was wondering, as I've been with 3 Mars in Cancer's in a row and what you were saying sounded all too familiar.

But those aspects you have between each other are amazing. Why do we always choose the most difficult ones?

UHHH!!

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sassygrrrl
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posted October 31, 2004 12:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm currently experiencing a Venus in Pisces guy. Venus in Pisces are so easy to fall in love with. They're extremely romantic and sensitive and sweet...and gosh darn it, who can resist that?? I sure couldn't. lol. :P The only drawback to Venus in Pisces is that they seem to be always looking for the Ultimate Perfect Love that does not exist. Or as I like to call Venus in Pisces: the Holy Grail of Love placement, lol. Because that's what they're looking for! They'll pass up a chance at real true-blue love, even if they're actually in love, because it eventually doesn't live up to the impossiblly high ideal of what they think love should be. And how can anyone compete against an ideal?? Arrrgh!

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puppyblew
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posted November 01, 2004 01:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sassygrrrl ~ ah, we're not that hard! (speaking from a girl though). i'd say all you have to do is throw in some "soul" talk like i think i knew you before, ect. and you'll be in like nothing! we like the spiritual side of love.

it is funny you bring up this "ideal love" however, because this guy (the one with venus in aqua.) had this problem too. it was his first love ofcourse. typical aqua there it was more than 15 years ago, and he still considered her his soulmate. he "left" her go, many years ago. she now lives on the other side of the country, married, with kids. so, basically he is a 37 year old man in love with an 18 year old ghost of a woman who doesn't even exist anymore. i said I'M here. I'M alive. it was so frustrating, because i half suspected that i was his soulmate on some levl and that i could heal that hurt. now there's venus in pisces thinking for ya! i mean, look at our placements. if that can't get along, someone has a problem!

and like i always say - i never got an answer. what a nice thing to live with. to pour your heart out and ask if you dreamed it all and then be ignored. how can venus in aqua, the venus that sees every human being as having worth and worthy of respect, treat a person like they are less than a human?

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sassygrrrl
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posted November 02, 2004 02:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aww Puppyblew I'm sorry that he left you hanging like that. *hug*

But regarding that spiritual side of Venus in Pisces. That's one of the things I love about you guys. I believe it was astrologer Debbi Kempton-Smith who said that Venus in Pisces sees God in everything. You guys have this wonderful capacity for Pure Love and will alway be there with a tissue in hand offering a sympathetic shoulder to cry on. And Venus in Pisces will make sacrifices for love, which my selfish Venus in Scorpio will never, ever understand. lol

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