Which Influences Indicate Feelings of Guilt

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astro junkie unregistered	posted October 28, 2004 05:46 PM Which influences would plague one with so much guilt about just having been born? IP: Logged
CancerianMoon unregistered	posted October 28, 2004 05:52 PM cancerians??..yeh yeh...i know i am one..i can sometimes feel guilty about EVERYTHING!!!!..lol...maybe virgo?? IP: Logged
virgotaurustaurus unregistered	posted October 28, 2004 05:57 PM i'm a Virgo and have that guilt pretty intensely...sometimes it'll come up in the really bad arguements with my mom (I know I wasn't planned, which only adds to that guilt). I really have no idea why I have this guilt. Only my True Node is in cancer though. Oh wait, also my IC is there too. IP: Logged
pixelpixie Newflake Posts: 8 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009	posted October 28, 2004 06:03 PM The influences of life. Final Answer. IP: Logged
noreenz unregistered	posted October 28, 2004 09:07 PM gonna have to agree with VTT, that Virgo guilt is pretty dang intense....would make my life so much easier if it weren't there, lol...............note to VTT, "the older you get, the wiser you get and the less you let it get to ya." get it? got it? good IP: Logged
Gemini Nymph unregistered	posted October 28, 2004 09:45 PM Oh my, what a question AJ! I think you'll need to be more specific. Like, is this guilt due to not feeling productive or not living up to potential, or feeling liek they're not meant for this world, liek a chronic outsider type? Or if they are someone who doesn't feel loved, or feels the world is too hostile or unkind for them, a sense of persecution? There are a number of aspects that can cause guilt. Usually they are opposition and squares, but I am learning that quincunxes can too. Oppositions tend to fuel inner conflicts that produce profound, lingering and sometime vague, undefinable guilt, while squares tend produce guilt related to or spured by specifc events or actions. Quincunxes are what I've coined as a "progressive" aspects, which progressively exerts it influence over a longer time and more subtly, and if this is at the root of guilt, it's more a sense of guilt that mainfests slowly over time and/or after a series of events. Saturn is a common player in these aspects, but also the moon and Venus. Chiron, Juno, Lilith and Vesta are sometimes fingered as culprits, too. Houses sensitive to guilt are 2nd, 4th, 6th, 10th and 12th, and to a lesser extent 8th. IP: Logged
astro junkie unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 01:23 AM OK - Thanks Gem Nymph - That covers it all the way around. Appreciate your knowledge and clarity. Thanks. IP: Logged
libra78 unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 02:37 AM I have my ascendant and saturn in virgo. I thought Virgo was responsible when I read the above question IP: Logged
virgotaurustaurus unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 02:53 AM noreenz, thank you so much for the tip! I actually have lots of Virgo guilt floating around about a ton of stuff that I need to get rid of..blech! IP: Logged
Gemini Nymph unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 03:51 AM Yeah, Virgo's notorious for guilt. Actually all the earth signs have a peculiar way of "retaining" emotional baggage that helps conjure up guilt. Like something buried in earth, their negative stuff gets embedded and even fossilized and so it sticks around like artifacts at Pompeii. Virgo, the most nervous and easily influenced of the earth signs, is quite bad about it, but all the same, it often finds letting go a bit easier than Taurus or Capricorn. All the earth signs need to work on "purging" negative stuff they retain. Unlike airy people, who can detach themselves from their junk and so it just drifts away in time, earthy peeps have to consciously make an effort to excavate and dispose of their junk. Water types also retain, but can often purge themselves through selfless or loving acts. This is like osmosis for a water type: they purge themselves of bad stuff by filling up with good stuff that pushes out the bad stuff. Another good way of purging for both water and earth types is meditation and prayer. Fire signs are tricky about their baggage: most don't stop long enough to know it's there until it drains them of their fire and they're wallowing in depression or vague, restless feelings. Even then it may take someone else to help them sort out what's going on with them. Once a fire type can see their baggage, they often can readily purge themselves of it, in most cases. IP: Logged
26taurus unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 03:55 AM Really dont like us earth signs, do ya Gem? You forgot to mention air signs? How do they purge? IP: Logged
Gemini Nymph unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 04:00 AM I wasn't passing judgement - it's simply a matter of people having different temperments. I did mention - in passing - that airy types tend to detch from their baggage and it drifts away. Of course the sounds grand, but in truth it can be a flaw in some cases because it doesn't force the native to reflect much on their stuff before letting go. And of course, a person can be of mixed temperments - like myself, I'm air and water, so some things I can let go of readily and other things haunt me quite profoundly. IP: Logged
26taurus unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 04:05 AM Yes, weird. I mean, because I, being a Taurus sun, Virgo moon, and Cap rising. Find that I am extremely detatched about alot of things. I let go too easily according to others. I think I have a good balance of elements though...... I wonder what aspects in my chart contribute to this. thinking Uranus conj. MC? Aqua intercepted in the first? Uranus square Mars? ....I really dont know..... IP: Logged
Aen unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 04:13 AM quote: earthy peeps have to consciously make an effort to excavate and dispose of their junk. So true. As far as I can tell it is only thing that works. Aen IP: Logged
26taurus unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 04:17 AM ....what you said about fire signs seems right on GN. ....i'm mostly earth and fire....but air and water arent too far behind...... you mentioned opps and squares contributing to this too........ Saturn square Sun Venus opp Neptune.......? Thanx for the food for thought. IP: Logged
astro junkie unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 07:39 AM I have 4 Planets in Earth, 4 in Water, 1 in Air & Fire. I have 3 Planets in the 6th House, and 3 in the 4th House, plus my NN in the 4th. IP: Logged
virgotaurustaurus unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 12:21 PM Gem, you are so right on about the earth signs! At least in my case and my tauruses case haha I see 26Taurus didn't agree. IP: Logged
Philbird unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 12:37 PM YOUR MOTHER!!! Remember? IP: Logged
virgotaurustaurus unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 12:41 PM In the case of things that don't have to do with being born, my mom doesn't have an effect on...things like lost friendships or quitting jobs. That's my perfectionist side screaming at me. IP: Logged
lovely* unregistered	posted October 29, 2004 04:29 PM i go through patches of guilt. my guilt stems from not living my life on a higher level and knowing I must do, but chosing not to... anyway yawn, i have 3 earth 4 air 3 water 1 fire no fixed elements either.. IP: Logged

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