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future_uncertain
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posted October 28, 2004 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my son's chart. (Hope I'm posting this link correctly.) This child is extremely stubborn and defiant, although very loving, too. Just has a huge inclination to do things his own way. Also, I find it interesting that he behaves very well in preschool, at the babysitter's, etc., but seems to find it necessary to push all the boundaries at home.

I realize that this is very common behavior for a child his age, but I worry that if he doesn't learn some restraint and learn to be a little less bossy he'll have a hard time when he gets older.

Anyone have any insight into maybe what makes this little guy tick? It's a little challenging for me, astrologically... I've got lots of fire and air in my chart and he's very earthy. I've read reports online, but if anyone has anything additional to offer, I'd love to hear it.

Thanks,
Carissa

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posted October 28, 2004 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*just a second here (edit)*

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posted October 28, 2004 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I figured out the link thing, but I did it through astro.com and it takes you to my account. So here's the information:

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posted October 28, 2004 09:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa! Oh my....LOL.

OK, that's is a lot of Taurus going on there. Too much? Well, it's in a good house to balance out Taurus's tendency for self-absorption: the 11th house is concerned for others, and often on a very broad and humanitarian scale. So I wouldn't worry about that.

I think this Pluto opposition has a lot to do with his intense stubbornness though, and that'll need work. Pluto can be a very powerful, productive, energizing planet - but likewise, if not channel properly, it can cause someone to be excessive demanding, stubborn and ego-centric. And it's infleucnes are very hard for young child to deal with - I know because I have Pluto rising , and boy, was I a problem child! LOL.
In our son's chart, Pluto's opposing his Mars *and* moon, which are in the 12th house cusp, techincally. A little slippery - you see, when energy enters the 12th house domain, either by placement or through aspect, it becomes harder to "own" as it affects us on a subconscious level. This tension of Pluto bearing down on his young ego (Mars) and inner self (moon) is going to be very hard for him to understand. He may be reacting to things in the wrong proportions, because even little everyday annoyances, like being hungry or tired, or not getting sweets when he wants them, may give him an opportunty to vent some of this subconscious tension.

While I wish to avoid playing psychiatrist with such a young person, I have to say this Pluto influence will largely effect his ego development. So I personally be very mindful with things that would effect that. Discipline should always be consistent, logical, and not excessive so as he grow older, he understands the need for discipline and can't argue around it - this will help teach him a healthy sense of ego. Be consistent with positive incentives and rewards too. Don't let him play on your emotions. Objectivity adn consistancy are the key with dealing with unruly Pluto influences.

Also, this subconscious tension needs healthy outlets. Find activities that help him express his inner feelings, like art, music or storytelling. With all that Taurus, he should be very inclined to creativity and take to that very well. Allow him to express his indivudality, even now at this young age, so he grows up not feeling inhibited (although make clear what is and is not appropriate - Pluto can be a bully sometimes it is doesn't know limits). But he'll also need to learn to balance this individuality with the needs of others, which I suspect will come in time, thanks to that 11th house.

I think that particular stellium will be a great strength as he grows older. There'sa lot of potential there for someone with both a very creative and sensitive mind and a capacity to love and help others. He may always have something of a big ego, but that's not always a negative thing if he undertsands simple things, like he can't always have things his way and that he can still be loved and appreciated as an individual even when he makes compromies and personal sacrifices for others. I wouldn't be surprised if he proved himself to a be a difficult child for years to come, but that doesn't make him a bad seed by any length - just one with a special need for your patience and guidence along the way.

So honestly, I think you have much more reason to be hopeful than concerned, just as long as you accept that this one will have a particularly strong sense of self, which may in fact be a very good thing for himself and many others one day.

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posted October 28, 2004 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful! Thank you. I must say, from everything else I've read I was a little bit worried. It's funny what you said about the sweets... it's actually one of the biggest things we struggle with! He can go on for hours about not being allowed to have candy or cookies and other sweet stuff. I try not to always say no, some freedom is important, but I've never been the type to give in to all of his whims.

He is a very sweet and loving boy, but very determined in getting his own way. I'm glad to know about that Pluto opposition as well... helps me understand why little things become so monumental with him.

You've been a big help! Thank you!

Carissa

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posted October 29, 2004 07:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lots of Taurus is good,
the Pluto/Mars aspect will give him a temper early on, internal discipline, sports, meditation, the arts, organized thinking, organizing teams, that is good for him. I am a Taurus, Saturn Taurus with Pluto in Virgo square Mars in Sag.

I was a terror as a child, I never stopped screaming from birth.
I broke everything and had to live with my grandparents, they taught me how to play music, sing, play sports, organize and get along.

Trust me, it will get better as he gets older, with internal discipline. Being in charge of yourself, is a job, creating willpower.

I agree with sports as long as it's not taken to extremes, and being with older people especially grandparents teaches patience by example.

Natasha
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posted October 29, 2004 12:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey! Scroll down this page, I think you might find it very informative regarding your son.

~Annya~
http://astro-software.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal?name=Future+Uncertain+Son&sex=&d1day=11&d1month=5&d1year=2000&d1hour=9&d1min=53&citylist=Lima%2C+OH+%2839%29%2C+USA&lang=en

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posted October 29, 2004 03:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For whatever it's worth, since he may be ultra sensitive and come down on himself, but at the same have so much to give to help others - help him to really appreciate someone else's good work, such as a fellow student. Of course, HIS work is great too, but help him to appreciate other's work as well. I think his being able to compliment other people on their positive attributes, while being secure in his own achievements will go a long way during childhood, as well as the teenage & adult years.

Take your time with him on this, make sure he doesn't dismiss it quickly, that he really lets it sink in, that he actually feels it.

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