posted October 31, 2004 12:31 PM              

Also...I have 3 different aspect charts I'm looking at. I don't know what the one on astro.com is called, that's all little squares kind of shaped in a triangle with the planetary symbols on top of the columns. I really like that as it even goes so far as showing things like biquintiles. However, then I grab my list of major aspects from the same site. Are the aspects showing up in the first chart that aren't on major aspect charts weaker? And also in the 2nd chart, the major aspects list from astro.com, it has Sun Sextile Mars. This is not indicated in the first chart at all! (It has an orb of 6 degrees)

The 3rd aspect chart (another major aspect one) comes from astro-software. It does not show any Sun aspects at all on it.

posted October 31, 2004 12:46 PM              

What are you doing to yourself mate?

posted October 31, 2004 01:01 PM              

In your case, that your sun is in Virgo and nearing the 6th house, it's probably more inclined to the 6th and so that cusp will have more influence. Virgo in general isn't comfy in the 5th house - it's too extroverted, too impulsive, and too dramatic. It's like a hoppin' party that Virgo can't wait to leave to go home and recharge in the peace, quite and order of its own domicile. Though the plaent there is your Sun, and should like it there more or less, perhap its Virgoness is taking advantage of the cusp and is directing you Sun energy closer to the 6th house.

As for major aspects - astro.com can be very generous with its orb. You have to watch it sometimes, because they'll indicate an major aspect when it's just too far out and other things are acting upon, so it doesn't really act like a tight aspect at all. Sextiles more than 3 degrees probably aren't sextiles at all (in action), as this is a very weak and passive "major" aspect and needs to be very tight to make much of a difference. In contrast, oppositions in astro.com are often in very wide orbs too, but these are more excusable as there are more aggressive aspects, and can have an effects even within a wider than normal orb (beyond 3 degrees), although normally the wider the opposition the weaker it is, usually.

Astrolgers vary on what is a good orb for each aspect. These is what Michael McClain at astrology-numeology.com recommends for orbs, which is roughly like what I use as a basis for discerning aspects, although I think conjunction orbs should a couple degrees wider :

Sun and Moon (sometimes called the lights): conjunctions 8°, squares, trines, oppositions 7°, sextiles 5°

Planets: conjunctions 6°, squares, trines, oppositions 5°, sextiles 3°

posted November 01, 2004 02:33 AM              

Gem, thanks so much! What you said about Virgo and the 5th/6th houses makes sooo much sense to me. I'm def gonna go with 6th house there

I looked up that sextile again, and it's actually 5.34 or something. A book I had made sextiles acceptable at 5 degrees, so even with that it wasn't really a sextile at all. 3 degrees sounds even better! A lot of my other aspects were really tight, but that sextile was just nuts. It's funny how lately in reading descriptions of aspects I can either go, "yup that's me" or "absolutely not!".

posted November 01, 2004 03:50 AM              

Working with aspects you need to be a little flexible. It's important to get an intuitive feel and a general undertanding of how aspects themselves work, aside of the various interpretations. They don't always do what is expected, kind of like everything else in nature.

One good exercise is when you find an interpretation that sort of fits, but also sort of doesn't, is to try to discern why that astrologer would have said that about that particular aspect. If you can see the logic behind the attributes that don't really fit you, then you can look at your chart and see what else going on that might negate, overrule or contradict that particular attribute.

posted November 01, 2004 03:57 AM              

Is that any way to pre-judge your experience of Glenn Beck? By reading his hate mail? That seems awefully strange to me.

posted November 01, 2004 04:28 AM              

His Sun is in the 10th house trined moon in the 5th: tons of self-confidence, tons of initiative, tons of ambition and a sense that he's someone important in this world. He probably thinks the world doesn't show him enough gratitude. Geesh, lol. With both in earth signs, he's also got a lot of determination and presistence to add to that.

Sun and Mercury conjunct Saturn in the 10th: heavy HEAVY Saturn influence with this guy. It's his way or no way - he's always right, period. And very conscious of his status and public image too.

And Mars opposition Jupiter: you see this often with very antagonistic people - it's like Mars gets irritates the hell out of jolly old Jupiter. These people tend to have a sense of humor that is rooted in some form of underlying hostility or antagonism too, as Jupiter's humor is inseperatable from Mars' aggression and egotism. This seems to suggest that he's quite capable of sexual harressment, yes? Very interesting. LOL.

posted November 01, 2004 07:56 AM              

No matter what you say or do, there will ALWAYS be people who will disagree vehemently. Especially a public media person.

He's gone all over the country to do shows in public to raise money for 9.11 victims. I mean, he REALLY works his azz off. His heart is in the right place, VERY RARE these days. He's a jewel.

He uses some funny sound effects, like when he says his head is going to explode, he has a soundbyte of unrolling duct tape and breaking it off. But my favorite is the "water bong" soundbyte he uses sometimes, when he finds himself getting too intense or angry about something he's talking about, and then he'll hold his breath and talk like he's holding the smoke in. It's hilarious.

He'll have characters call the show, as part of the show, but at first, you may not realize it's not a real caller, and it's full of irony and hilarious.