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virgotaurustaurus
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posted November 13, 2004 11:52 PM
 
I'm posting this because I think I generally just don't understand how Libra dudes communicate sometimes, and it usually leads to not getting along with them, which frustrates me because I like them. Maybe someone can just clarify things for me!  Anyway, my Libra friend has just been driving me nuts since I got back to NY. He's been saying he wants to hang out, then he won't contact me for days after I email him, then he says he's really busy, but then he has time to watch tv and write journal entries. I'm just ready to give up on the hanging out stuff! I feel like I'm not that important. Also we seem to be at odds with opinions tonight. We're both passionate with politics, him more so than I. Anyway, I wrote a journal entry about the differences b/w the people I met in PA, and the people where him and I live, attitude and consideracy-wise. People up here are very rude, mean, angry, and he knows it too, so I don't understand his reply. He ended up getting defensive, saying he resents what I said, and tells me to remember that more than half of NY voted for Kerry (we're both liberals) and that I must just be meeting those red state Bush supporter wannabes in this area. My counter-arguement could be that I was not talking politics, only attitudes and niceness, and that PA is a blue-state too and that the counties where we live, and the counties in PA where I like, are all red counties, so I don't know what his problem is all of a sudden! Anyway, I feel like the issues here can really be broken down into fundamental differing communication styles. I remember reading that Libras, no matter what stance they REALLY take, will argue just to balance. Other than that though, I don't understand why this happens with me and every Libra guy I know! I make an opinion, then they get defensive and bring in things that have nothing to do with what I said, and argue with me! Gah!!! Anyone have any opinions, tips, info on Libra communication styles? I'm soooo soooo lost! It's the one sign I understand least, make good friends out of, and then these things happen all the time! IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle
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posted November 14, 2004 01:01 AM
"Libras, no matter what stance they REALLY take, will argue just to balance."True that. I love to play devil's advocate. Librans LOVE a good argument... or debate... whatever they can get out of ya  It could be that he's playing the devil's advocate and really doesn't know it. Could it be that he's young yet and doesn't really know himself? IP: Logged |
aries-chick
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posted November 14, 2004 01:01 AM
The thing with Librans is they love a good debate and the only reason they'd shadow box their point of view would be to keep peace or keep a relationship going for a while, although it always comes out eventually. My advice to you would be to not take any debates you and him (or any other librans in your life) have about politics or religion (thats another big one with librans...very set opinions) or whatever else...personally, because they're deffinetly not personal to him. I think his attitude would only become annoying when you invest too much emotion into the debate and therefore get agravated when he constantly disagrees (not that he does it to aggravate you). Also, when you make a broad generalisation about anything at all, such as "people up here are very rude etc", even if it's the slightest generalisation, and even if he'd actually agree with you in his heart of hearts, he'd prolly find it completly impossible to NOT argue. Try phrasing things a bit diff maybe, when you talk to him so it doesnt start a debate. Like use "in my experience", "from my point of view", "from what I've seen", that kinda thing...stead of making a statement like "people are rude". I know it can get a bit frustrating, but if he is your friend there's prolly lots of things you like about him also, so try to keep that in mind to when he goes in debate mode. Good luck with everything 
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LibraSparkle
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posted November 14, 2004 01:03 AM
Listening to advice from an Aries is also a good thing. Aries really knows how to deal with us  (and vice versa)IP: Logged |
aries-chick
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posted November 14, 2004 01:13 AM
lols LibraSparkle...I hope I do with my Libran bf 
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Aquarian Girl
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posted November 14, 2004 01:24 AM
One of my very best friends is a Libran male and your post made me laugh cause me nad him have those sort of arguments all the time, but we thrive on them! I think, because we're both air signs, we both enjoy a good debate just for the sake of debate itself, and we enjoy getting the other to see our point of view and also, being made to see the others point of view. We can gasbag about pointless stuff for hours! LOL.I think it's important to try to remain as detached and "airy" as I'm sure he likely is in these exchanges. Also, I notice my friend would often likes to say things that are contrary... Not so much to provoke, but... like others have said... to play devil's advocate and maybe test your view point. This serves two purposes 1) he gets to see how well thought out your ideas are 2) the more you explain, the more he gets out of the conversation. My friend always does that to me and I notice he feels sort of self-satisfied at the end when I've explained why I think what I think and laid everything out, whether he agrees or disagrees, I think he sort of feels content knowing what is behind my thought processes and it gets filed away in the "Aquarian Girl" file in his head or something like that, lol. I'd try not to take it personally... don't let him throw you, kick the ball back to him! edited to add: everyones a little touchy about politics lately, if it's more than just healthy debate, maybe it's better not to discuss politics with him if he can't do so without getting pissy (at you). IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus
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posted November 14, 2004 01:45 AM
haha it's so hard for me not to take arguements personally...especially since I just had a Leo, who has never made herself out to be a good friend to me in the first place, decided to play his side and jump on my ass as well, and all I did was compare upstate New York people to PA people, and I'm extremely annoyed at both of their hypocrisy as they both have talked so much crap about upstate NY in the past. i'm all about eye for an eye, and it seems like no one in my close personal life will keep to that lately.Hah it sounds like this doesn't deal so much with astrology anymore...Gah. IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted November 14, 2004 01:56 AM
If I were a Libra guy with a Natal Venus in Virgo, this would be the "channel" I'd probably change on my remote - "...he won't contact me for days after I email him, then he says he's really busy, but then he has time to watch tv and write journal entries..."But, I'm not. ------------------
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puppyblew
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posted November 14, 2004 03:16 AM
dude! so you live in pa, vtt?so do i. man, we really should hang out. 
uh, duh... just saw you meant that you visited pa. sorry. i saw you were talking about rude, mean, angry people. i just assumed you were talking about pa. people aren't too nice here.
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virgotaurustaurus
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posted November 14, 2004 03:25 AM
haha! Compared to where I live in NY, PA seems like heaven! Anyway, I should come visit anyway sometime, PA isn't too far! Me likes to travel IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted November 14, 2004 05:55 PM
Libras, like to argue, it's an art form. But don't take it personally if he can watch tv, or write because LIbras are very much into the arts, even if that means tv and journals. Try taking him to a movie, or a play. Libras, love to watch people talk too,Natasha
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libra78
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posted November 15, 2004 12:43 AM
good :ibrans like to debate, not argue. You may just think they are arguing, but they aren't."Either love me or leave me alone." IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted November 15, 2004 11:16 AM
...and how's this for the "horse's mouth"? ... I'm a Libra woman who can still be putty ... ... so ... ... yeah, it's an artform - but it's not always designed to cut someone down or hurt ... IP: Logged |
chrissymgreen
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posted November 15, 2004 04:13 PM
hey vtt, is his mercury in libra, too? since his sun's in libra, his mercury is either in libra, scorpio, or virgo (due to the positioning of mercury and the sun). it does sound like he's a libra mercury.what's your mercury in? c IP: Logged |
chrissymgreen
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posted November 15, 2004 04:21 PM
i meant to add that just recognizing the differences in your communication styles may improve things quite a bit. like the other people who have libra in their charts here have said (i have a libra ascendant): just don't take it personally. realize he's just into debating because that comes natural to him. and if you speak up about what he's said that bugs you and give specific reasons why in a neutral and controlled manner (basically, combine an aries-type response which is his opposite with a bit of an air-like response), he'll totally respect you for it! and he'll be putty in your hands. as someone else said.IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus
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posted November 15, 2004 04:25 PM
I'm so glad I posted this! I want to go back thru the replies and take notes, it'd help me make more sense But the advice here made me nip this one in the bud, I just didn't want to debate at all the other night! But you guys were all correct, he didn't want to argue, just wanted to debate . sthenri: movies was such an awesome idea, he loves movies! chrissymgreen: his merc IS in Libra! Haha! But so is mine, omg the insanity I definitely need to go back through this thread though! IP: Logged | |
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