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The Mutable Night Force
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posted December 07, 2004 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just wondering if I (with Virgo Sun sign, Moon in Aries, Venus in Leo, and Mercury in Leo and Gemini in Mars) would stand any chance with an Aries guy? Coming to think of it, I only have crushes on Fire signs mainly, but there is an Aries guy I really like at the moment. However, he is really unusually quiet, feminine and introverted, but this might just be because I don't know him that well. He also seems uncharacteristically shy, so I don't think there's much chance of getting him to join this school play thing I'm in. Can anyone with more astrological knowledge than me offer any advice on bringing him out of his shell a bit or somethin?

Weirdly, my Scorpio friend also likes this guy, so we both would have a 6-8 relationship with him.... What does it all mean???

~Doogie~

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted December 07, 2004 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry that last message seemed a bit immature and sorry I'm spamming technically, but honestly I need to know how to make Arians think I'm an interesting person because I'm not sure yet. The one I mentioned I think is scared of me and another I know is sort of patronising in a well-meaning way. How can I make him think I'm not a stupid little kid?!? In any case my girl Aries friend is being real annoying and mean to me and my scorpio friend at the moment, it's like one second she's nice and funny and next she's peeved because it's so easy to annoy her. You can do it without trying and honestly I think I'm going to collapse here.

help ~Doogie~

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aries-chick
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posted December 07, 2004 09:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey and Welcome,

I've known 2 Aries guys who were shy. One of them had ADD and he was pretty strange but I didn't know him well enough to comment. The second I was pretty close to most of last year. I'm still friends with him. He has a Saggi moon, can't remeber his other placements. Anyways he was very shy and he didn't seem Arian at all, maybe he had a capricorn Asc, he came accross more as a cappy.

So I was convinced he's this shy lamb like Aries for most of the year, up until this Aqua girl realllly ticked him off and then he showed his true colours. He yelled and he yelled and he yelled (people heard him all the way to the front office, in our school and all these teachers came up..what AY drama) ...and Aqua girl was standing there going , later she just laughed it off and said "neva knew he had it in him".

So yeah shy as he may seem, i'm sure the Aries in him is gona pop out sooner or later (most likely if he's angry, if he's in a competition or if he feels someone underestimated his abilities). As to how you get through to him. Be friendly and nice, talk to him and be straight forward (most Aries people appreciate honesty and straight forward-ness) but don't get too close. Aries loves the chase.

You have you're fair share of fire and an Aries moon which makes you basically compatible with an Aries and other fire signs (Maybe not Saggi, only cause of Virgo Saggi square...and also your Gem mars). I doubt the Aries guy would be "scared" of you, maybe it just seems that way. You said he'd think you're a stupid lil kid. Why? Is he older? Cause if he's your age he'd have no reason to think that.

As for the Aries friend, if someone's going to be mean to you they don't deserve your friendship. When she's being mean, let her know it was mean..lots of times Aries people just don't realise when they're being mean.

PS with the Aries guy just be yourself, don't try to change or make yourself seem more interesting. I'm sure u're already interesting, you're prolly just underestimating yourself.

PPS lol Personally I get along really well with Virgo's..they're very genuine and they're a lot of fun.

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Aquarian Girl
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posted December 07, 2004 10:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suggest being fun and dynamic, but holding back a little. Make him chase you. Aries loves the chase. Play fiesty and hard to get. They can't get enough.

Aries is one sign IMO you should never wear your heart on your sleeve with, they will consider you "conquered" and thus, "boring"...

I have a cute book called "Seduction by the Stars"... I think it's out of print these days, but let me go find it and see what else I can dig up. It's cute and snarky advice but... accurate

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themeanreds
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posted December 07, 2004 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themeanreds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I suggest being fun and dynamic, but holding back a little. Make him chase you. Aries loves the chase. Play fiesta and hard to get. They can't get enough."


I couldn't agree more. I'm an Aries and aquarian girl took the words right out of my mouth. Show off how great you are, make yourself seem like a prize and let him come and get you, and right when he thinks you're in his grasp back off. Don't be cold, just a little less available. It would sting him if he thought you lost interest, with all our huffing and puffing and bravado ... Aries has a very fragile ego, so don't shut him out entirely.

oh! and a warning, don't chase him. let him chase you. Aries likes a challenge, that's half the fun, and we can't chase you if you're running straight towards us. I can't speak for other Aries but as for myself, it's such a turn off if someone pursues me. In fact, it makes me really uncomfortable. I guess I don't like the tables turned.

about your Aries friend, tell her she is upsetting you. like it was said before me, she may not even know she is hurting you. She just might think she's being honest. Also, Aries are quick to anger but quick to forgive. So while she might go from being a little annoyed to flat out ****** off and blow up in .001 seconds, she probably forgives just as quick. In fact she probably got mad, raged, then forgave you before you even knew something was wrong. Just talk to her in a calm rational manner. Don't get up in her face because she will probably just get defensive and think you're attacking her and everything you say will just go in one ear and out the other.

good luck

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sana
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posted December 08, 2004 12:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ARIES??? feminine????OMG...lol...
sorry...dont believe it...
love
sana

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sweetlibra
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posted December 08, 2004 03:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did take the initiative in my relationship with my Aries guy.( Since i was too impatient to wait for his move )
I mean non verbal clues
Once he knew i was interested he asked me out
He was not shy but he did not want to disturb my studies (Uh ! what a reason..!!)
he is an Aries with Libra moon & Virgo rising

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LeylaLeFay
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posted December 08, 2004 04:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do be careful.

I've learned my lesson with the quiet/shy/introverted ones. I know the temptation, wanting to lure them out of their shell, encourage their self confidence and all that. But more often than not I've discovered there was something really wrong with them that was the real reason they were so secretive- they were afraid someone would find out.

I'm not saying that's what's going on with this Aries. But just be careful.

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Aquarian Girl
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posted December 08, 2004 07:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha... I know Aries men pretty well. My cousin is an Aries, I dated an Aries and Aries men like me for whatever reason. Probably because I don't like them usually. Well that's not true, I usually find them attractive but when I get to know them I find them a bit much and/or my interest peters out It's the challenge thing. they like a challenge and they never win with me. Reverse psychology 101. That's Aries

Also Aries is on my 7th house cusp.

You just have to be careful not to bruise their ego or make them feel insulted - they really do not like that. It's a game, but don't cross the line. You act like you find them interesting and you might be interested in them romantically... but you never outright declare it. Make them work for it. Because if you let them know you're enarmoured, then it's game over, they think you're boring.

I can see how this might be fun, but it doesn't quite make sense to me why if I like you, then I'm boring... but if you win me over then I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread... BUT... I've experienced this first hand with an Aries! I've played the game. It never fails. Wear your heart on your sleeve and they find you tedious and drab or something.

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sthenri
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posted December 08, 2004 07:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does he have Venus in Aries? Because if so he basically finds you adorable and would be willing to do anything for you. Virgos with mercury in Leo are my weak spot:> Be confident and demanding, don't be afraid of him.

Leyla, that is good advice! How many times have I nurtured the introverted sensitive psuedo intellectual type, only to find out he's never read anything in his life? Ditto if he's been single for a looong time, or if his current dating partner has zero interest in him when he's around.

Something wrong!

Natasha
Taurus/Venus Aries

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ariestiger
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posted December 09, 2004 11:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, as a female Arian, I admit to liking the chase - but I like a guy to chase me in equal amounts. I prefer not to feel I'm having to do ALL the running. That is actually quite boring, frustrating and tiring in itself!!! I think the best relationships are those in which there are equal amounts of interest shown on both sides.

And that's how it should be - if two people genuinely feel the same about, are relaxed with each other, and confident in themselves. Talk to him a bit, try to hang out with him as a friend, find out if you have any common interests.

Probably quite boring advice, but fairly reliable.

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted December 09, 2004 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that is all fantastic advice. I can see where you're coming from there.

Unfortunately, today, with my friend, I blew it completely within the first 40 minutes of saying hi. She is constantly attacking me now and my scorpio friend, because I think she's peeved I pay more attention to scorp than her. This is only because the scorpio is nice (most of the time) and not constantly insulting me (which could make my fragile virgo self-confidence collapse-Haha). I had the intention of being nice but whatever it was she said (I can't remember now) -oh, wait, that's it! She was misremembering the facts about something, as usual, trying to twist it to make it seem like she was perfect and I was thoughtless. It really bugged me being a virgo, because I'm a real stickler for the facts and she'd totally messed everything up and wouldn't change her mind. Even my understanding Gemini friend was trying to shut her up because she was making such a big deal. This is really getting to my scorp friend who told me she even nearly cried to her mum about it. She also keeps telling me to stop singing which really gets me down as well. Perversely, later, we were getting on fine and joking, whatnot. This is confusing me!

Oh, and the aries guy, I haven't seen for ages and when I do, all I can do is just smile, it's killing me- at least before I could say hello. The other older aries guy is still patronising me. I think it's because I can't loosen up around people I'm trying to impress.

~Doogie~

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themeanreds
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posted December 09, 2004 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themeanreds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
all astrology out the window ... you're friend is just being a jerk. Be honest, maybe you should write it down in a letter or something so that you can get everything out and make sure you say everything you need to say. She isn't acting like a friend, in fact she isn't even acting like a nice human being. Tell her and if she doesn't at least try to change or treat you better then maybe you need to walk away.

"She is constantly attacking me now and my Scorpio friend, because I think she's peeved I pay more attention to scorp than her."

this stuck out to me. As an Aries I'll admit I can get really jealous of ... everyone in fact. I always want to be top priority and be everyone's favorite ... it's a fault I know. so when I'm not or I feel second best I get really hurt and get kind of mean. Maybe you're friend feels like she is the odd man out and that's why she is being such a brat. like I said before, sometimes Aries don't realize when they're being mean or hurting someone's feelings, so maybe she didn't notice the fact that you and you're Scorpio friend were hurting and by the time she did wake up and realize something was wrong all she saw was you two bonding together in your distaste for her.

my advice: talk to her, just put it all out on the table in a calm and rational manner. She will probably appreciate your bluntness and will feel horrible for ever hurting you.

and if she doesn't and she continues to be so disrespectful ... well maybe you need to find a better friend. a real friend, not just someone who claims to be but whose actions don't reflect the title

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ariestiger
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posted December 09, 2004 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like your Aries friend is going through a brattish "Aries teenage phase". I know - I've been there! (Now passed the great 3-0 - far, far older and wiser - LOL)

There's a chance she will grow out of it eventually. Aries need to be first in everything and dominate, which is why Aries females usually get on better with males than females as friends. Even then, they can p*** people off because they're bad losers, and don't like sharing things. I think your Aries friend maybe just needs to find her feet.

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted December 10, 2004 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reading this made me cheer up considerably because your advice reminded me why I like Arians in the first place how my friend is slightly extreme and doesn't represent every Aries in the world, thank God. Today, she was fine for most of the and I even thought that maybe we might go a day without her being crazy. Unfortunately, later she started talking about how she thought we all had massive egos (This is completely not true, I was only talking a lot about myself to day because I'd caught the wrong train which totally threw me and I was a little upset) and my other friends aren't like this at all. I was terrified of pointing out it was actually HER that is the egotistical one not us, so I tried to brake it to her gently that she was *shock horror* wrong, and even added that maybe we might have made her a little more introverted than usual (she loves to feel sorry for herself and I was pandering to this). Then I try to explain how I'm actually far more critical of myself than anyone else, I just don't say it, but she was already ignoring me by then. This really p****d me off, I was so frustrated (Moon in Aries) and I really hated being ignored when i was trying to be nice so, (and I know I shouldn't have done this) I ignored her back, she's trying to make wisecracks to me on the way back about how she reckons I should have got off a station early but I completely blanked her and it felt really good too. Don't know how she's going to be Monday- probably all smiles and sunshine. Somehow I think if I gave her a carefully written heartfelt letter, she'd throw it away andtrying to talk to her would result in more abuse. I can't afford to not be her friend, I don't have that many intimate friends.

~Doogie~

Oh and the older Aries guy is finally slightly impressed by me- turns out we like the same bands!

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ariestiger
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posted December 10, 2004 04:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent!!!!!
I'm pleased for you.

LOL

AriesTiger

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted December 13, 2004 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I'm sorry to make this topic crawl up the message boards again, but I'm in desperate need of help.

Again, with my friend. She has now moved on from harassing my scorp friend and has turned to bugging me to the nth degree. Honestly everything is at its worst now. It's almost like she is trying to get back at us for any bad thing we EVER said to her, she can't remember any one specifically but refers to them as "all those horrible things you said to me" agghhhh! and it's driving me crazy nobody can say anything without her craftily turning it into an insult to do with me! I don't know how she does it, but oh I'm trying sooo hard to be reasonable at every possible chance, I'm not shouting, I'm even learning how to deal with it almost, but this night, on the way home from school it got too much and I started crying a bit. It made me so angry that she'd reduced me to tears. My Gemini friend was even telling her to shut up. I don't know whether it got throught to her or not or whether she even noticed but she looked a couple of times. Not sure whther she figured I was crying or not. We very silent with each other for the moment. I'm worried this is going to errupt into something big.

~Doogie~

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aries-chick
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posted December 13, 2004 08:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Doogie,

Do you know what her moon sign is? Just wondering...I bet ya it's another fire sign.

She's obviously throwing senseless tantrums. If I was you I'd distance myself (not totally, cause obviously if you go to the same school it could get weird. I mean talk to her sometimes and say "hi", that kinda thing but you don't have to hang with her).

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supernovajen
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posted December 13, 2004 09:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My father is an aries and my step-mother is a virgo, they have been married a long time now, I think they're fairly happy if this helps!

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted December 14, 2004 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her Moon sign is Moon in Aries! Just like me! Aghh thats bad...

Today was suprisingly peaceful and harmonious, we got on and joked on the way home. I don't know but maybe she doesn't want to p*** anyone off anymore, I mean, it IS christmas soon.

Thanks Jen, its cool to know that maybe if I ever see this shyer Aries guy again I might stand a chance.

Out of interest, in a relationship where an Aries seriously adores and is constantly banging on about his other half, is there a good chance she may be a Leo? It is a guess on my half about someone I know of. Just thinking, Linda Goodman was an Aries and didn't she have a soft spot for Leos? All just a theory but without actually knowing it's a bit of detective work on my part.

~Doogie~

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