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Topic: astrology and behavior
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virgotaurustaurus
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posted December 14, 2004 05:51 PM
 
So...I've been visiting a few astrology chat rooms lately, and am a bit shocked at what I notice some people do...using their astrology stuff as EXCUSES for bad behavior. I've never really thought about it like that before, but as an example, as one I actually ran across in person before...an Aries who once he finds out that arrogance is a negative trait of Aries in some generic interpretations, will actually do it more and think it is acceptable because that's what Aries do. I don't see it much around here since most of us know about free will and whatnot...But it led to me to think about it more...what if someone with a bad behavior turned around and thought someone else should accept it because it is shown in their natal chart? I just think about this a lot, as I also study human behavior and part of that has led me to learning about abusive behavior...NO this is not a post about me and a situation hahaha :P. But for example, I've noticed that certain traits of abusive behavior can show up in people's charts. I've seen it talked about on other astrology boards...a lot of other Virgos on a board I post to feel that male Leos are verbally abusive towards them. What they could be experiencing could be negative traits of the Leo sun sign. So I read one board, and it says "no! That is abusive, unacceptable behavior!" and then I read an astrology board and it says, "oh thats probably a negative trait of such and such sign or aspect", and it really screws with my brain. It's like, maybe yes the behavior can be shown in the chart, but it's also unacceptable, but could be explained away by the chart! Haha I really hope this doesnt sound confusing...gah...it's like this Scorpio I knew who would get jealous over everything I did or received, made me feel guilty for all of it, and then tried telling me it's just because she is a Scorpio. It's like if I went and raged at someone and then went "oh that's normal for me because I have Moon opposition Mars". I can understand if someone is having a bad day, and says it could be a transit that's going on, like the communication craziness with mercury retrograde... I dunno, anyone else just notice how different/contradictory true blue behavior and then how the natal chart shows it can be? Or people using things in their charts as excuses for crappy behavior? It's just so weird to me, because my ex had aspects that would make him controlling and selfish but it still didn't make it okay to me, no matter how many times I would look at his chart. *sigh* IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted December 14, 2004 06:36 PM
You made perfect sense VTT. Alot of people do use their astrological makeup as an excuse for bad behavior. When what people who are serious students of astrology should be doing is using these negative or hard aspects to better themselves. Astrology is a tool to get a deeper understanding of oneself and meant to help that person reach greater heights as an individual, not as easy excuses to stay stuck. Anyone doing so, is abusing the art. We are all blessed with some nice or easy aspects and also some harder of less positive ones. And there are the positive and negative traits that come with every sign. Some believe your hard aspects are lessons you are carring over from past lives where you misused that energy and you now must deal with it and transform that energy, to be put to positive use. Nothing annoys me more than people who make excuses. Especially when it comes to astrology. Nothing is ever set in stone. We all have the power to trancend our charts. Astrology is being misused when we conform or mold oursevles to what our chart says we are. Astrology is here to help us be better people and look deeper inside. We rule ourselves, the stars incline, they do not compel.....something like that. IP: Logged |
CancerianMoon
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posted December 14, 2004 06:57 PM
 well said 26taurusIP: Logged |
NeoKitty
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posted December 14, 2004 09:37 PM
I hear so many people blame thier stars. Of course positive energy, and "bad energy" play their parts, but that doesn't justify your own bad behavior. I totally agree Astrology is a tool, and its depending how you use this tool. I used to get "stop being lazy!" from others. And i'd say "I'm a leo, get over it!"
I was not doing anything positive whatsoever there to transform that energy. quote:
Nothing is ever set in stone. We all have the power to trancend our charts. Astrology is being misused when we conform or mold oursevles to what our chart says we are.
Yes 26T. Amen to that! We must rise above these influences, we can!!!And if there is a will, there is a way.  ------------------
*Formally known as NeoStar
======================== O space and time! now I see it is true, what I guess'd at,
What I guess'd when I loaf'd on the grass,
What I guess'd while I lay alone in my bed,
And again as I walk'd the beach under the paling stars of the morning.* * From Song Of Myself by Walt Whitman IP: Logged |
LeoSweetHeart
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posted December 14, 2004 10:33 PM
I agree as well VTT and 26taurus, I've been hearing people say their bad trait followed by, but its cause I'm a Leo or whatever, I'm even guilty sometimes  Yeah I know my sign doesn't rule me because I have a tendancy to be lazy but when I set my mind to it I can be super woman and accomplish as much as a Gemini can or maybe sometimes I feel inclined to feel royal, but I quickly humble myself and think of others as superior to balance it out (every person is your superior in some way) and I don't like arrogance, its never justified. I wish I hadn't told my BF about his sign Virgo because now he sometimes says I can't help but criticize you, I must remind him of this important tid bit.  Its never an excuse to remain doing your negetive behavior because of astrology, esp when your treating people badly. Thats my opinion. IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus
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posted December 14, 2004 11:02 PM
Awesome!! Great replies  It also gave me a clearer perspective on what I should be using astrology for, as a tool to better myself. I've basically only used it to understand my personality, but now that I know more about who I am, I also see things I definitely don't like and want to change those. Astrology is definitely a good thing to have to help! Like when I asked about the Saturn transits before, it's so I knew what it was all about so I could use them (despite that they are seriously almost unbearable pain and upheaval lately). People who make excuses, and refuse to even look at where they could be wrong, make me want to scream my head off. Transcending my chart is what I'm looking to do. Haha LeoSweetHeart, I'm sure I've been guilty of what I talked about too . I've just come to understand astrology more to know it doesn't have to be that way!  IP: Logged |
sweetlibra
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posted December 14, 2004 11:34 PM
I agree with 26Taurus...
It was a great relief to learn about the indecesiveness of Libra (Heck u wont know how much painful it was (in my childhood) to go for shopping with my Leo mother who wanted instant decisions LOL...)
Now i push myself to take faster decisions [come on you can do it ]
Astrology is a great blessing for me in understanding myself and others better. 
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Aquarian Girl
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posted December 14, 2004 11:51 PM
I think I'm guilty of that a bit too we probably all are. But for example... I've had issues with my Capricorn moon... that manifest in my real life and just with the interpretations I read (accurate or not, I usually don't like them!)... but I try to overcome them, "despite" my Cappy moon, you know? And it works. It really does. But, people withuot astrological knowledge do the same thing too... I hear people describe their own faults like they're "cute" all the time and they're like "oh well, thats just how I am! too bad"... no effort towards self-improvement or bettering themselves. Those same people gain some astrological knowledge and just find diffeent ways of describing their faults as "cute" or whatever! It's just another excuse! IP: Logged |
LeoSweetHeart
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posted December 14, 2004 11:59 PM
Yep I agree Aquarian Girl, sometimes its easier for people to make excuses for themselves, no matter what that excuse may be, so they don't have to change.IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted December 15, 2004 12:06 AM
Hey thanks girls.  I wholeheartedly agree that we all tend to do this sometimes! I forgot to add that in my post. Yep, I fall into that trap sometimes too. All we can do it try our best. And I think we all do.  26 IP: Logged |
Teo Torriatte
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posted December 15, 2004 05:10 AM
What an interesting thread. I agree with what everybody is saying - I only ever say "it's cos I am a gemini" in jest, I agree with the idea that it is more important to transcend difficulties than to give in to them. Ironically, according to my uranus placement in the first house) I will disobey rules and rebel at all costs, so my lesson is to try and stick to them. Except the ones which make me think "but it's cos I am a gemini..." :-)IP: Logged | |
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