posted December 17, 2004 01:28 AM              

In this case, any planet from 19' Virgo on and 9' Libra from, would be conjunct the Sun.

posted December 17, 2004 01:43 AM              

Conjunct is just a term equally 0.0 degrees. And Orb is like a window of opportunity to make its effects known, which varies from astrologist to astrologist. Don't worry too much about Orb's right now.

posted December 17, 2004 01:51 AM              

Dont sweat it though, one day it'll all just click. You'll see.

I'm horrible with numbers myself. Once you get all of the signs, modalities, qualities down you'll start to see a pattern.

All signs of the same element are will trine each other. (depending on the orb) So you can see in your question above why they are trining, not conjuncting. You have a tight orb there (same degree) and both planets are in the same element (earth) so they are trined. If your Neptune was 1 degree Cancer you would have a sextile. You see? Earth and Water sextile, as do Fire and Air.

Now if your Neptune was at say, 25 degrees Capricorn, it would be out of orb (too far away) and it would not be trining your Moon at 1 degree Taurus. With trines, it's best to keep within an orb of 8 degrees. And in that example, they are more than 8 degrees apart.

Here's a guideline:
Aspect/Degrees/Orb
Conjunction / 0 / 10
Semi-Sextile / 30 / 2
Sextile / 60 / 6
Square / 90 / 8
Trine / 120 / 8
Quincunx / 150 / 2
Opposition / 180 / 10

posted December 17, 2004 01:57 AM              

Example :::

Tri = 3
Trine = 30 Degrees X 3

Each Sign has 30 Degrees, and multiplied by 3 because it is a Trine, therefore, 90 Degrees.

posted December 17, 2004 02:03 AM              

This might help with - "out of sign conjunction"

"Another ie..to make it clearer. Say your Sun was at 29 degrees Aries and your Venus was at 1 degree Taurus. On the astro wheel...ur Sun and ur Venus would be nearly exactly on top of each other...even if they are in diff signs so they'd be conjuncted. If your sun was at 1 degree Aries (right at the start of Aries...like if u were born on the 21st march) it would make NO aspect to your venus"

I said this on a diff thread - thats an out of sign conjuntion

posted December 17, 2004 02:03 AM              

The orbs are actually a guideline to see if planets are actually aspecting each other.

If you had the Sun at 1 degree Taurus and the Moon at 26 degrees Taurus, they would not be conjunct because they are out of orb. Yes they are in the same sign, but too far away to be conjunct.

As you can see above the orb rule for a conjunction is 10 degrees. In this example these two planets are separated by more than 10 degrees = "out of orb".

Question:
Someone has Moon in Virgo at 22 degrees.
They have Venus in Capricorn at 24 degrees.

posted December 17, 2004 02:16 AM              

The Orb's - uh!!

Through my personal observation thusfar - I keep them ALL really tight, like no more than 2 degrees for ANYTHING.

posted December 17, 2004 02:21 AM              

In synastry, composite and predictive astrology, you want to keep the orbs as tight as possible. Like 2 degrees.

But when looking at natal charts most astrologers use the chart above as an orb guideline. I've seen the same orb charts in all of my natal astrology books.