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Secret Garden
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posted December 26, 2004 05:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know if yall remember but recently I had posted about a Leo guy with Cappy moon who I have a huge crush on. He had seemed completely aloof (friendly and nice but not emotionally interested). A couple of days ago he started getting more open about his feelings, how his day went, etc. and even some joking around. Then yesterday he yelled at me! just completely insulted me for no reason at all.... it was not my fault but his cousin's who kept messaging me...
He said all these really mean things like stay away from me i dont need friends like you, somebody was going to tell u that sooner or later, etc. and it was like sooooo sad and hurtful i cried for like hours and hours! (yes i can be a crybaby heh)
I haven't talked to him for days (I apologized to him at the time coz i was just so shocked and didn't want him to be angry with me! i had the hugest crush on him). He said 'no hard feelings on my part' but obviously Im having a hard time getting over his insults Should I talk to him normally, ignore him, or tell him that he really hurt my feelings? I dont know what approach to take with him, what his motivations could have been for something like that, and whether he's worth it?
Hes: Leo sun, cappy moon, mercury venus and mars in virgo, saturn in leo, pluto in libra, uranus in scorpio, neptune in saggittarius
his chart is pretty much all clustered on the left side entirely. he has virgo rising and has five planets clustered together within two houses (11th and 12th). His sun and saturn are conjunct, venus and mars have no major aspect, sun and saturn square uranus, pluto squares moon and moon trines uranus
any insights ppl?
im a gemini with scorp. moon, libra rising venus in aries and mars in gemini
ANY insight and advice wud be greatly appreciated ! thanks so muchh

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Secret Garden
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posted December 26, 2004 05:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry correction to his chart: his venus is in leo not virgo

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running_bull
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posted December 26, 2004 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for running_bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo's love to be the center of attention. You can't really make it seem like someone else is more interesting, right in front of them. If he has Virgo rising that could help explain the moodiness. Also, virgo's vacillate a lot, making it often seem like they don't know what they want from one day to the next. That could be what makes it seem like he alternately does or doesn't like you.

Having said that, there is no reason in the world why he should have talked to you like that and there is no reason why you should have apologized.

My advice... if he doesn't come up with a darn good apology and explanation for his ugly & disrespectful behavior... F'em. Totally ignore him as if he didn't exist (it's one of the best ways to get a message of dislike across to a Leo), don't cave and be nice to him. You deserve better and I'm sure you'll find it. Good luck.

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Secret Garden
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posted December 26, 2004 09:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
plz yall if u could provide insight it wud be great
thanks so much running bull
i know but its so hard for me to let go
with my chart ruled by venus and it being in the seventh house in aries
*sigh*
plus pluto is like opposing it, being obsessive
after a whilessss i had finally liked someone and he turned out to be so cruel!

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posted December 27, 2004 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SecretGarden -

Well, since you ask, the first thing that really came to mind is that this person probably needs to be with someone with more Mutable qualities. You have some Cardinal qualities which makes you way more independent for his taste. What do you think?

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LeylaLeFay
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posted December 27, 2004 08:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he's angry about you talking to other men and ignoring him, then obviously he's jealous. And if he's jealous that means he likes you. I always take it as a good sign when a man throws a jealous fit, because it means I have him right where I want him.

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ineedlove
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posted December 27, 2004 10:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Secret Garden*
I'm sorry he yelled at you like that. Don't worry. If you get a chance just tell him how you feel. It would help you to get it off your chest. And because his chart seems to be virgo dominant he would want to help in any way possible. And the both of you have emotional compatibility (your moon scorpio) his(capricorn). This is another benifit for you both have emotional compatibility and sensitivity to each other feelings. He may not even know you took it so hard! So just open up to him and tell him he hurt you.

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LeylaLeFay
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posted December 28, 2004 03:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at it from his point of view- as you said, he had recently opened up to you. So here he was feeing vulnerable.

And then you ignore him to talk to other men. So he has to puff up and act like he doesn't care, and he doesn't like you, and you didn't hurt him.

Which only goes to show how much his ego must have really been hurt.

These cousins..is he competative with them? Are their past jealousies between them? There may be history you don't know about.

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Secret Garden
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posted December 28, 2004 04:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so far as I know him and his cousins are like best friends or so, he said two or three things that really hurt me, one of them was to stay away from both him and his cousin, that my jokes weren't funny, that I didn't need to pry into their lives (I admit that maybe my fault. My scorpio moon wants to be mothery and mushy and know about everyones problems and stuff ) and he said that if he hadnt told me all this stuff eventually someone else would have anyway...
i talked to him yday and asked if he still wanted to talk to me since he told me to leave him alone, and if it was really the case i would do so...and he just said 'no i didnt mean it that way...no no-one hates u...im not going to delete u'
this relationship isnt showing much promise...im pretty much fed up and retreating back to my hermit like romantic life hehe
thanks for ur advice guys

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astro junkie
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posted December 28, 2004 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeylaLeFay -

That's a really foreign concept to me. Jealousy is an emotion, and the thought of me basing the success of a relationship through emotion alone scares the beegeesus out of me. I'm thinking, that's not too healthy. But you say it makes you feel better?

I'm half-jokingly curious as to what indications in your Chart would get off on something like that. But of course, you are not obligated to respond.

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Secret Garden
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posted December 28, 2004 07:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AJ, although its difficult for some signs to really get jealousy, other ones do. Most people think jealousy is an emotion, or more a problem in itself. however, jealousy always stems from some sort of emotional reaction to something. Some signs show their love by being possessively jealous not in the psycho way but in the, hey this is my girl and u stay away from her way. Some signs find this attractive as well. Ive observed that fire signs esp. Leo and Aries tend to have that possessive sort of jealousy sometimes and although they may not show it immediately it may hurt their egos sometimes (after all, the Lions planet is the sun, around which the whole universe revolves and if someone decided to flirt with someone else, the Lion would have a hard time accepting it, afterall, hey everyones life is supposed to revolve around the lions! hehe)
Also, water signs have this weird power jealousy sort of thing going on. There is always some sort of power mind game in water sign relationships. Thru purely personal observation ive noticed that Cancerians tend to be insecure and want to be loved and sometimes dominated/dominating, and Scorpios--well all I'll say is check out the can u ever say my scorpio thread hehehe
Although I can relate to and identify with the causes of the fire-sign possessive jealousy I have a hard time understanding, let alone tolerating, the water signs power-domination jealousy.
Just my opinion of course , I dont know if Leylafey will agree with it ?
Usually air signs have a hard time understanding jealousy and resent it. They wanna be free !

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astro junkie
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posted December 29, 2004 01:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Secret Garden -

Yes - I'll agree that jealousy itself may not be the primary emotion, but for the sake of being succinct, I did state it as such. I've said before, jealousy can be the glue that binds, or the straw that breaks the camel's back. It is something we ALL experience to a degree, and must weigh carefully when dealing with others.

This is a topic that is always on the backburner here, and it's great to see how you've splayed it out throughout the Elements and Signs. There can never be too much discussion on this.

Thank you.

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posted December 29, 2004 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was probably falling for you, but you said something (unintentionally) that led him to believe he was misreading signals--and he felt foolish for letting down his guard. Unless you want to see everything freeze over like an ice age, give a blanket apology for whatever you said or did, tell him that you would never intentionally hurt him or deceive him, and tell him how much you like him. I know, I know, you shouldn't have to swallow your pride like that, but if you do, he will apologize also, and you will have what you want. Cappy Moons don't like guessing games. If you like him, tell him.

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