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Topic: Extramarital Affairs
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Poissons
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posted January 26, 2005 11:57 PM
 
Can astrology aspects predict the likelihood of committing an extramarital affair or being the victim of one? I am strongly opposed to such behavior because of my faith. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted January 27, 2005 01:21 AM
If there were any one thing, I believe there wouldn't be so many prevalent talk shows, psychic lines, divorce lawyers, pre-numptual agreements, etc etc etc.
So many factors.. circumstance, growth, unhappiness, depression, love versus boredom, excitement, finding real love outside your 'marriage' in the case of an unhappy marriage.., illness-therefore lack of sex/intimacy with the healthy spouse, disinterest, a predisposition to seeing sex as not a big deal, social stigmas, a desire to have a baby and your spouse is infertile.... the list is virtually endless.
You see how objective it is.
Same goes for charts/aspects.
Of course, traditionally, certain signs are more apt, based upon characteristics, to 'cheat' for any reason.. but is fair to judge based upon one factor anyway? There is free-will, there is religion, as you stated, there is upbringing....
No matter what your faith, no one wants to believe their love means so little to the one they love.
I hope you find someone, of whatever sign, who respects you and loves you as you wish and need to be loved.IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted January 27, 2005 12:44 PM
Poissons -Can you articulate what you mean by being a "victim of adultery"? IP: Logged |
GemStar
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posted January 27, 2005 12:53 PM
I imagine that certain signs have a tendency toward infidelity...depends on more than just the sun sign obviously....I also agree with pixelpixie....lots of factors....As far as whether you might be a victim of adultery...the cheater or cheatee/cheated upon...I think would depend on the synastry between the two involved-(the married couple?). Is this a committed relationship? Marriage? We need more info to help answer your query. Please clarify per AstroJunkie's post. IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted January 27, 2005 01:17 PM
I think that they say to look at Mars and if it is in a mutable sign. Also, look to see what rules the 7th house. Personally, I have Mars in Pisces and Pisces rules my 7th house (although Mars is in my 6th house). I also have Venus in a Mutable sign (Sag) conjuncting my sun. BUT- remember what the traits are of that sign. Saggies like honesty and they abhor cheating..but cheating to one may not be cheating to another. For me, the line has to be drawn. If I am in a dating situation and we are not exclusive, then historically that meant I could date anyone else. Sex was out of the question, if I was sexually active with someone- then I was exclusive. I did draw the line in my last marriage. We had not consummated our marriage and he was not interested in sex at all. I was only 30 and I am a very physical person in a relationship. Finally- after so many years, I moved upstairs. To me that meant we were over.. I began to see someone that was also separated from his wife (but not living in the same house like me). To some, I had an affair, to me I did not. My ex and I knew it was over, he didn't want to let me go, but he also didn't want to love me like a husband should love a wife. My current Fiance is a Taurus- he thinks it blurs the line..that I did cheat because technically I was still married (I moved out shortly after moving upstairs). Also..look to Neptune in the 7th. It is said that they sometimes put their partner on a pedestal and they don't or won't see the partner's cheating ways...if they do see it, they ignore it, as if they deserve to be treated as such. IP: Logged |
Poissons
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posted January 27, 2005 01:27 PM
"Victim of Adultery" is someone who was betrayed by their significant other.I have Venus in Pisces in the Seventh House. Does this mean that I will be a victim of adultery? IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted January 27, 2005 02:54 PM
Oh OK - Venus in Pisces - "Venus is exalted when posited in this sign and its radiations signifies a hospitable, sympathetic nature, easily impressed and fond of corrective work in institutions. The native feels strongly attached to persons of a weak or afflicted mind or body. The inner desire for compassion and peace for the world finds its most efficient outlet in helping the poor souls who are suffering. The nature here is highly emotional and the native often suffers through love as he becomes deeply and emotionally absorbed in his loved ones. The position indicates some financial gain through the assistance of friends and a very basic and successful intuitive mind in business affairs."
Venus in 7th House -
"If dignified or received, then this makes for a very happy marriage alliance with many children and for favorable dealings with the public. The golden years provide for a comfortable retirement and death is said to be peaceful and surrounded by friends. The native may have a gift for socializing and creating fruitful contacts for public advancement. If afflicted or debilitated, it is indicative of unsatisfactory alliances, difficulties in relationship judgements, particularly with women. If also oriental, it produces scandalous alliances not perceived as proper in public with whispering out in the open. This is one of the indicators of an early marriage according to most astrologers." IP: Logged |
GemStar
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posted January 27, 2005 03:13 PM
Ahhhh....part of me says that you can never have a guarantee....even with solid astrology...(like the loyalty of Scorpio)...people will do what they like and often selfishly.Trust comes to mind. I feel this is so important prior to being married....and if by chance during the marriage...your gut begins to sense something...like your significant other is 'checked out' in some way...follow your hunch. Again...there is no guarantee in this life for anything...usually people do not 'plan' on cheating...or 'plan' to be the victim of adultery... Overall...I think that the stronger the connection between the two partners, the less likely another person(third) will come into the picture...more people need to pay attention to the 'special connection' within their relationship...and if it begins to weaken in the slightest, or slide apart...pull it back together ASAP. That would prevent even a 'pre-destined' cheater from wanting someone else...strong morals help but everyone is human...and some will have weaknesses that are unexpected. Does Uranus enter into the picture?? Like some Uranus and Venus connections? IP: Logged |
Poissons
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posted January 27, 2005 04:01 PM
Thank you all for replying to my posts. Your comments were very insightful. Take care.IP: Logged |
Inka
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posted January 27, 2005 04:41 PM
..my uranus squares my fiance's venus. I have heard that this can mean that the uranus person will want their freedom and eventually leave their significant other. I think brad and jen had this aspect, not sure. But i strongly believe that our free will prevails all, if we will it to that is. IP: Logged |
ariestiger
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posted January 27, 2005 05:20 PM
Ahem! My Uranus(Libra) squares my husband's Venus (Capricorn) too!
I was strongly anti-infidelity when I got married, partly because my mother had a rough time with my Aries father's infidelity. Although it takes a lot to make me unfaithful to someone in any sort of relationship, if I am pushed enough, I will eventually snap, and I can't say I haven't secretly committed emotional adultery, if you like, plenty of times in the last year or so, following some of the experiences I had with my significant other.
I guess, ultimately, not many of us are infallible. Much depends on circumstances. I can't say I totally disagree with extramarital affairs at present, because I see so many shades of grey.
Mr. Aqua has an interesting take on adultery. Though he would be extremely unlikely to commit it himself (Venus in Capricorn), he strongly believes that probably most of us are not monogamous. He is peculiarly philosophical about the potential possibility of my having an affair, saying that if I wanted to have one, he couldn't stop me. I don't know whether he's jealous or not, since he doesn't seem to show any obvious traces of it. He is very stoical. I wish he wasn't. I wish he was a bit more concerned!!! I think he OUGHT to be! Pixie, that was a beautiful quote:
*..no one wants to believe their love means so little to the one they love... I hope you find someone, of whatever sign, who respects you and loves you as you wish and need to be loved...* IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted January 28, 2005 06:29 PM
Maybe he's saying to go ahead because what he really means is, he wants you to be happy, even if it means it won't be with him.IP: Logged |
LeylaLeFay
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posted January 29, 2005 07:40 PM
As I said in another post- Venus in Gemini seems to be a formula for a man who enjoys many casual extramarital affairs.IP: Logged |
Inka
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posted January 29, 2005 08:15 PM
Poissons, Astrology may be able to "give potential" but in the end it all comes down to the people. I have a Venus in Gemini, so astrologically speaking i am inclined to cheat, yet i have never been unfaithfull in my life. I have strong beliefs. It all depends on the person. IP: Logged |
LovelyLibraLady
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posted January 29, 2005 08:51 PM
I don't believe that astrology has anything to do with people being unfaithful. It has to do with problems in people's personal relationships, and character flaws...but I will remember that about the Gemini Venus placement.IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted January 29, 2005 09:14 PM
I know a Venus in Gemini man whose wife cheated, but he does enjoy two women. Only he is open about it? That is not physically unfaithful, but spreading yourself thin emotionally.There is emotionally, and physically unfaithful. People are usually one or the other. It's the physical unfaithfulness I can't stand because that person will always have some stupid reason, usually that they are out of control. Or it's the other person's fault, such as this person gained 30lbs, yet they see nothing wrong with using someone else in the name of love. Yet they have no love, and it's not about love. I can see falling in love and saying I had an affair because I was in love, but not because I didn't get enough attention, or some other physical reason, that is a tendency to say there is no power, or reason, as if someone put a gun to a man's head and said, you must cheat LOL! But argue with a cheater and that person will always come down to, you don't know what it's like to be in that position...actually nobody knows how someone else feels, but when a man or woman uses pity from others to gain attention, that is a very good indication of a cheater. Also one that says he or she has never been in love for real, that puts it on the partner to demonstrate real love. Once I say to a man my love is real, here it is, in my heart, I usually hear, but where is the physical love? That to me is a cheater, one who doesn't believe in the emotional end of sex, will always cheat because it means nothing. You can't live in the same house as a cheater, so if you really want to KNOW, instead of just fantasize, then live with the man and you will know. or woman. There you are. If you are asking if you are the type to attract cheaters, it's up to you to find out, by taking the time to live with someone, Natasha
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GemStar
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posted January 29, 2005 10:19 PM
You had a lot of insightful comments Natasha...if people only understood the realm of emotional love being on a higher level than just the base-sex love...maybe more people would be happy together! I feel that too often people confuse love and sex and way too many people feel that it is one and the same...(Just my comment on the emotional vs physical cheating...my Scorp Rising couldn't handle a cheater or a relationship that was not tightly connected...I would KNOW!!)  GemStar IP: Logged |
LeoSweetHeart
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posted January 30, 2005 01:15 AM
I know what you mean Gemstar! I'm in a relationship with a emotionally distant Virgo and its been so hard for me being a really passionate, sentimental Leo. I feel like if he isn't looking at me with those admiring eyes he used to and doesn't tell me how he feels then maybe he's "checked out" in ways that he doesn't even know. See he doesn't like to think about his emotions, relationship problems, love for me..so this worries me so much. Whenever a guy has assured me of his love with the small gestures and by telling me all the time I'm special, I can totally relax and feel so safe and be myself..but I just can't seem to RELAX with him  Also a big part of it was the fact that he had MAJOR wandering eyes in the beginning, and I mean MAJOR! We are still working through this problem, he's stopped, but I'm working on forgetting about it. Anyways does anyone think of wandering eyes as a serious sign of a potential cheater..oh yea and mix that with emotional detachment and ugh what do you guys think..do I have cause to be so worried about him?? Please help! Sorry maybe I should make my own thread? But it is on topic so maybe your all interested.hope so  Monica IP: Logged |
teaselbaby
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posted January 30, 2005 03:29 AM
Why does Venus in Gemini always seem to get the "cheater" badge of dishonour? 
~ http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/001304.html . I have a Gemini Venus, and do not cheat. Angie IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted January 30, 2005 09:15 PM
I don't know teaselbaby, I know a venus in gemini and although he'd love a threesome, he's open and honest about everything in his life,Natasha emotional detachment and wandering eyes..
Yuck! that's not enough,
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GemStar
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posted January 30, 2005 09:32 PM
Natasha...LOL You crack me up!  !!!Yes, I agree re-the emotional detachment...that would make me a bit uncomfortable(gotta love that emotional fulfillment)...AND if he has wandering eyes...it makes me think he is looking for better pastures elsewhere...I will not be with someone who does not want to be with me 110%...yuck is right! All or nothing mister..it doesn't get better than this right here!! LOL!! (OK-That's what I would be thinking if my man was looking too often everywhere else but at me!) What's up with that disrespect?? GemStar IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted January 31, 2005 06:52 PM
LeoSweetHeart -I don't necessarily believe those characterisics make this Virgo a "cheater" - however - trying to change the "wandering eye" thing is a deal breaker in my book. Think about it. Let me know if I'm wrong. ------------------
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LeoSweetHeart
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posted February 01, 2005 04:05 AM
Thanks Sthenri, Gemstar and Astrojunkie
Yea the wandering eye thing really SUCKED! He blamed it on the fact he's Bolivian and that he was subconciously fascinated with white girls, having just came here 3 years ago. Whatever it was, I was not having it! We fought so much the past year and finally four the past uhh like 4 mnths he hasn't looked (in front of me), so now I'm trying to get him to communicate with me and tell WHY and HOW he's changed so that I can really believe him. He however doesn't like talking about tense things or any emotions period, so it's been a lonnnnnnng process trying to trust him again. I want to spy on him  hehe thats probably a very bad sign huh. Astro Junkie, yea the wandering eye was a deal breaker. I gave him an ultimatum, I was like if looking means that much to you and you can't appreciate the beauty you have right in front of you, then you go look as much as you want....ALONE! its too bad it came to that, but it seems the only thing that gets his attention. We're working on building a connection again. Sometimes its just sooo frustrating though because I feel I want it more than he does. He seems to be like if its there its there if not, I've got other things to do. For me, its like the air I breath, I need to feel a connection! Otherwise whats the point?? Do you girls ever have this problem? IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted February 01, 2005 10:17 AM
Right. If the "wandering eye" thing is unacceptable to you, then it's a dealbreaker FOR YOU. If you trying to change that about HIM is a dealbreaker for HIM, that's what you'll have to deal with. Watch that he's not playing you in this department. For us girls, at least for MY weirdo ass, I'll talk about that thang shakin it, and "he'll" laugh, and it goes from there ... so it's NOT just a "male thing" ... trust me ... some lesbians are more chauvinistic than some hetero or bi men.IP: Logged |
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posted February 01, 2005 12:07 PM
I would have dumped him a long time ago. ------------------
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