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sthenri
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posted January 30, 2005 08:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, ever had a surgery, nip or tuck? including breast reduction or implants?

I won't judge, but I would like to understand better my reasons for interest in body changes. uranus in pisces is opposite my pluto and jupiter, so I am sure that has a lot to do with it.

Please share your experience,
I am trying to decide on a breast reduction lift, or saline implants in six months,

Thank you, Natasha

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted January 30, 2005 09:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only reconstruction I would consider is a breast reduction because of my back.

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pidaua
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posted January 30, 2005 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Sag Sun / Aries Moon / Virgo rising-

I've never had plastic surgery. I would think about a breast lift when I get older and after I have kids if it is necessary

Other than that, nope..don't plan on it

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whiterabbit
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posted January 30, 2005 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Natasha-
I've always found it interesting to read your posts because I believe your chart is very similar to my best friend's chart. She is also a Taurus Sun, with Venus in Aries, but she has Cancer rising. And you often remind me of her.
She has been thinking a lot about getting a nose job (don't ask me why..I think she is SO beautiful, as does everyone who knows her. A total gorgeous Taurus earth goddess)
But she is EXTREMELY critical of her appearance. She's even worried about gaining weight and she is SO slim- plus one of those people with an incredibily fast metabolism.
But the way she looks is often one of her key priorities though I couldn't describe her as a superficial person. It's quite a weird paradox- I guess the way I see you too. Also her appearance is 100% tied to her confidence and happiness. I mean she CAN'T feel happy and confident if she doesn't look like a movie star.

It's strange because people would tell you she looks like a movie star even with no makeup, casual clothes.

Anyways, thought I would share that with you. I wish the two of you would talk..lol..I think you'd really understand each other.

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scorpbaby
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posted January 30, 2005 09:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been considering having a chin implant due to the roundness of my face. I just think I look like a baby sometimes! I have a moon singleton so I guess that may be the reason I have such round face, that's a lunar thing.

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LeoSweetHeart
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posted January 30, 2005 10:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natasha I have been extremely concerned with my looks for most of my life. This past year especially because of my bf. I would say my confidence is definitely affected by my looks as well, though others have said I'm pretty or beautiful..sometimes I believe it and other times it wouldn't matter what they said, I just would not believe them.


I actually started a post in Health forum on plastic surgery because I just moved out to CALI and its a bit more of a pressure here to be beautiful, and plastic surgery is not "bad" here. I have to admit I've thought of it, but its never gone past that. I always try to take my mind off of m looks when it gets to that point.

My sun is Leo~ concerned about looks, image and being perfect.
My venus is virgo~ very detail oriented when it comes to beauty (and relationships) a perfectionist of my appearance.
Moon in Taurus~ material abundance and success (beauty) is very important to me

I don't know, I am trying to work on being so critical of my looks. That is actually one of my biggest problems right now. I blame it on media, my boyfriend, California...but I know it really something deep down. Those other things just enhance it.

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sthenri
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posted January 30, 2005 11:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Knowflakes, I am booked so it's a go, but I hear what you are saying. Whiterabbit, yes I know what you mean, I am slim too, but my Cancer Moon gives me that insecurity and the large chest. I just want to feel my face can compete with my chest as I've spent my entire life trying to get men to look at my face first, and it's discouraging.
I don't want to be an earth goddess, I want to look like my idealized version of me, not someone else's idea of happiness.

I think many men think I am earthy and I am not at all, I am very much sensitive. I'm not a "broad".

Uranus in pisces has maybe pushed Taurus suns to think of idealized beauty, but people do expect me to look good and project that confidence 24/7 as my sales are directly tied into my appearance, since my best asset is my chest, I am always propositioned first before taking seriously. I do not want to be known for my rack/butt anymore.

So maybe having a good body isn't all it's cracked up to be? My sister has an angel face, and virtually no chest, but people always say how responsible she is!

I appreciate all the help, but you never know what someone is thinking or feeling about you, until they turn you down/reject your life's work (painting), and then it's too late. People in my world tend to be superficial it's true, but I don't want to leave without making an impact.

Thanks, again,
Natasha

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Archer
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posted January 31, 2005 02:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jeez...why don't indian women care enough to do this too??

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moonshine
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posted January 31, 2005 02:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, Indian men don't either

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Secret Garden
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posted January 31, 2005 03:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol @ Archer

Ive been wanting plastic surgery too although I keep reprimanding myself for wanting it. I really do think everyone is beautiful in their own way, but somehow I don't think I am. weird...

Uranus in Pisces Natasha? Mine is in Sag. I was noticing that mutable Uranus can be very troublesome because change can be welcomed to a point where one does not realize its unhealthy. I know that sometimes I can do different and weird things because I want change and I just want to be better, and not just better, but in fact the best. I simply want to be the best. And the Uranus being mutable doesn't help...

Im a Gem Sun with Scorp Moon, Venus in Aries, and Libra Rising.
Everything is round. My eyes are round, and large. My face is round cheeks are round. I'm always blushing. People think I'm perpetually angry or embarrassed, but for some reason my cheeks are always blushing. Must be that fire or water thing going on. No idea.

I wanna get an acid peel for my skin and lipo. I don't think Id change any of my face itself, as in the features.

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sthenri
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posted January 31, 2005 10:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Secret, you probably don't need an acid peel yet,Uranus is in Virgo in my natal chart, but it's transiting Pisces right now, that means those of us born with Pluto, Uranus, and Jupiter in Virgo are having a tough time with body image, closeness, intimacy, merging, becoming another, identity, and anything Piscean. My art has taken off in another direction, more colourful and abstract, and I have had two close mergy type relationships this year after 8yrs with the barren libra.

But I hear what you are saying about mutable Uranus, its' certainly not good at staying put. I am always "starting something" and I have to focus hard on my goals everyday.

As Michael Jackson said,
"You always wanna be starting something"
And he is my generation as well,

I will start a new thread about him,...

Nat

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ariestiger
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posted January 31, 2005 11:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, despite a broken nose and pockmarks on my face and body from where I recently had chickenpox - no, I wouldn't. Even with dermabrasion skin takes about 6 months to heal, plus with depressed scars you're looking at about the same area of the scar, cubed, to be abraded, and then you have to consider sun damage and not being able to put makeup on it.

I had a very itchy mole removed when I was 16 and the NHS did rather a "hammer-and-tongs" job. I am very fair-skinned, so the scar doesn't show up too much now, but it looks rather like a badly drawn beetle, with legs sticking out either side (from where the stitches were). Never again!!! Life throws enough at one without having to worry about cosmetic surgery. I would be too concerned bout all the possible complications, and, besides, I have hospital phobia.

The only instance in which I would support cosmetic surgery is that of corrective surgery, for example, if one's health was put at risk (eg oversize breasts), or in the case of a very bad accident.

I probably couldn't have lived with pockmarks as a teenager, I am not pleased with them now, but I thought, what the hell, we all grow old eventually, what difference, ultimately, are a few pockmarks going to make? In any case, I always remind myself (I know it's a cliche) that there are people with MUCH worse skin conditions than me, if anyone is worth your love, they will love YOU as a whole person and NOT JUST because of your physical self. I knew a girl with a large port-wine stain covering most of her face at college. She used to disguise it by wearing a hat most of the time. But, actually, she needn't have.

I did actually go through a phase recently where I wondered about taking some of those hormone pills to make my breasts grow. However, I looked at all the available info and decided it wouldn't be a good idea, the reason being that the pills contained such high levels of oestrogen, and that they resulted in slightly unnatural-looking breasts.

I have never had a facial in my life. The best remedy for bad skin is a candida diet (no fruit, no sugar, no cheese, no alcohol etc. = CLEAR skin) and early nights
Always consider all the info carefully before deciding to have cosmetic surgery, know what you are getting yourself into.

Why are we all so obsessed with a certain IDEAL of beauty? The imperfect, or "ugly" should be more widely accepted!

LOL

AriesTiger
(Virgo rising, Uranus in Libra - 2nd House, Pluto in Libra - 1st House, Moon, Venus, Jupiter in Pisces - 6th House)

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sthenri
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posted January 31, 2005 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it's an act of rebellion, as in I want to be my own person? I must have ten cousins who look like me.

I am going to post my favourite noses, and chins,
Knowflakes feel free to comment like you are, I appreciate your opinion AriesTiger:>

anyone else?

The first is MM smiling naturally, her nose even fixed was quite normal sized but it looks smaller in most photos because she is not smiling, or it's not natural. Her chin and nose were fixed in 1950, and the nose was made smaller later.
This is in between.

the second is Cameron diaz who I assume is natural? she's not on any list.

I am using these examples and they are blonde only because they "match" me.

Natasha

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ghanima81
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posted January 31, 2005 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Aqua sun smirks, rolls eyes and huffs at such a silly idea.*

"Looks, shmooks... pfft... who needs em?"

*Leo moon roars loudly*

"But looking good is feeling good, and feeling good is wonderful!! Especially when surrounded by luxury, soft fabrics, and having the softest, most luscious skin!! Mmmm, and having super high gloss lips and stand out BANG eyes!!"

*Aries rising pipes in*

"Well, bollocks to you if you don't like me for who I am, but as I am the center of attention... might as well look good doin' it!"

*Cappy Venus shrugs, too busy trying to make everything perfect to have seen this thread before.*

"Well, if I look presentable and professional, good things will come to me... I work hard, why not get things for looking good, too? At least a little recognition? Somebody practical to notice my plain Jane stability?''

Hmmm... that's a bunch of mixed messages...

But it's what I think about outer beauty... according to my multi-layered chart

Ghani

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