posted February 05, 2005 03:12 PM              

I often hear or see people complaining about whom they are, their family, their environment, etc… My answer to that is “You choose who you would be, what family you would be born into, and the environment you would have to live in, so take some responsibility for your choice and quit belly aching”.

I believe that our souls choose the exact time and place to be born in order to accomplish one or two objectives in this cycle. We are here to grow spiritually ourselves, or to help others to grow spiritually through our interaction with them in this life cycle.

Lets take the last reason first; being here for others spiritual growth. I believe that children, who come into this life and die young, do so in order for their family to have to deal with their deaths. I can think of many families that have done wonderful things in this world in response to their loss of a child or family member that they would not have even thought about doing otherwise.

There is no doubt that loss of a child is a terrible experience, particularly viewed from the perspective of most people in our society who view life as a one time event. However, when life is viewed as a continual cycle of lives where the child’s soul agreed before birth to be born and die early in order to help others grow spiritually, their act takes on a completely different aspect. Their act is one of deep spiritual love for those souls that they will affect in their short physical life.

Most people (souls) that we meet and have significant interaction with in our lives for better or worse are souls that we have made agreements with prior to being born into this lifecycle. This is where Karma comes in as well. If we create a debt in this life through our actions towards another, we will meet them again in future lifecycles in order to learn from experiences and grow spiritually.

Now let’s discuss the first reason that souls reincarnate; to grow spiritually. Our choice in this life of family and environment provide us with the obstacles that will allow us to grow in life, if we want to make the effort. Say that your father was abusive to you as a child; what kinds of lessons can be learned from that situation that will make you a stronger and more spiritual person. We see in the papers all the time, individual was abused as a child, so they now abuse their children. No learning or growth has taken place in these individuals, because they didn’t take responsibility for their own growth. It is far easier to blame others for our situation than take responsibility for working to understand and learn from our experiences. Which is not to say that some pain isn’t still there from the abuse, however we aren’t accepting it as normal behavior in our own relationships.

Again remember that your soul freely choose to experience that abuse for a good reason in this lifecycle, and you will never know why until you overcome and grow from that experience.

So once again, quit belly aching and playing the “what If” game. You are exactly who you should be, and have had exactly the types of experiences in life that your soul needed to grow and evolve.

These are just my thoughts, feel free to disagree.

Lanny

posted February 05, 2005 03:27 PM              

I'm right with you Lanny!! Bravo!!

posted February 05, 2005 04:11 PM              

But sometimes people just need to talk and get things out of their system in order for them to grow.

I believe in what you have said yet in the past I have allowed things to 'fester' within me. Sometimes theory and beliefs are easier than the 'day to day' growing of your spiritual learning.

.. the 'growing' as a spirit can last an eternity through to infinity.

it's the day to day happiness of ones soul we all need to work on..

Being happy in the 'now'.. learning to accept and appreciate what you have, not what you've not got. xxxxxx

posted February 05, 2005 05:12 PM            

No offense, BUT,
Not everybody believes what you believe;
Not everyone is conscious of having chosen their circumstances.
Bearing that in mind,
perhaps it is you who should "quit belly-aching",
seeing as how you are the only one here claiming to have consciously and willfully chosen your predicament,
eh?

Ever notice that,
when people are busy judging others for not being able to bury their emotional states in quiet desperation,
it is actually they themselves who can't withstand so much as the mere suggestion of an intolerable emotional state?

Just a thought.

posted February 05, 2005 05:17 PM            

Anyone can criticize. It takes a true believer to be compassionate. No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or understands.
- Arthur H. Stainback

The expectation that every neurotic phenomenon can be cured may, I suspect, be derived from the layman's belief that neuroses are something quite unnecessary which have no right whatever to exist. Whereas in fact they are severe, constitutionally fixed illnesses, which rarely restrict themselves to only a few attacks but persist as a rule over long periods throughout life.
- Sigmund Freud

In the psychopathic temperament we have the emotionality which is the sine qua non of moral perception; we have the intensity and tendency to emphasize which are the essence of practical moral vigor; and we have the love of metaphysics and mysticism which carry one's interests beyond the surface of the sensible world. What, then, is more natural than that this temperament should introduce one to regions of religious truth, to corners of the universe, which your robust Philistine type of nervous system, forever offering its biceps to be felt, thumping its breast, and thanking Heaven that it hasn't a single morbid fibre in its composition, would be sure to hide forever from its self-satisfied possessors? If there were such a thing as inspiration from a higher realm, it might well be that the neurotic temperament would furnish the chief condition of the requisite receptivity.
- William James

posted February 05, 2005 05:24 PM            

Thats funny,
Cause I thought only jerks called people "imbeciles".

posted February 05, 2005 05:33 PM              

We could make a conscious effort to be the opposite of our parents in many ways, yet ultimately will that do more good? There is evidence that characteristics skip generations, so some of the annoying characteristics of our parents could turn up in our children.

I know I go on rather a lot about things that are bothering me, but I don't feel sorry for myself, or intend that people shuld necessarily feel sorry for me. I'm past that now. But I do feel strongly about things, so I need to work through them. I actually find I need to experience strong emotions periodically. Some of us are just wired up that way.

And some people have the capability to evolve, but some don't, and that fact just needs to be accepted.

posted February 05, 2005 05:46 PM            

My puppy licks the salty drops,
no, not my mummy, nor my pops, -

My cries are fierce,
But no one sees, -

posted February 05, 2005 05:53 PM              

I was gonna say idiots - cause that's what they are, you wouldn't believe the things they say. Anyway did you mean me when you said hypocrite?

posted February 05, 2005 06:05 PM              

Even if we did choose our fate, it doesn't matter. God doesn't want us to dwell on that... if we do we are missing the point of living and our worthy existence. xxxxxx

posted February 05, 2005 06:11 PM              

I do NOT blame other people for my situation. I accept that I make certain choices and that I have to work through them. One motto of mine is "No regrets." Okay? Because I spent too much of my life with too little confidence, doing nothing as a result. I don't BLAME certain people with whom I have interacted, although I get very annoyed with them, frequently, which is not the same thing at all. I am usually annoyed with them because they can't be bothered to do THEMSELVES a favour, or because we wind each other up.
But that doesn't take away the fact that certain things that happened, happened. If events such as abuse happened, the fact is there in black and white, you can't take it away. Right? It takes A LOT for some people to get over certain traumas and I am fully aware that I have been incredibly fortunate in comparison to many others.
People have problems. I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's part of life.

And no, you can't anticipate or choose situations that hit you out of the blue. Unless you are strongly psychic. I actually wonder whether I am, since I had always somehow known I was going to experience an incredibly strong love around the age of 30...which has proved to be true. But, even if you are well shored up against every eventuality, unexpected events still happen.

LOL

posted February 05, 2005 06:18 PM              

ariestiger, Getting what one deserves has nothing to do with it, and I find it up lifting not fatalistic. If I set in motion the ingrediants of my life for a reason that I can only believe to be worthwhile, then I can use every bit of it for helping me grow, and not play the blame game.

Lanny

posted February 05, 2005 06:21 PM            

I was referring to the like of myself, when I said "hypocrites" - because a hypocrite is someone who speaks, but does not live, the truth. I can forgive everything but judgement. A person judges and I feel justified in judging them. I know its wrong, hence, I'm a hypocrite.

I WAS sort of referring to you when I said "jerks", though. I doubt you would call a "mentally challenged" person an imbecile. Yet, you call people imbeciles, who are smarter than they are. What's wrong with this picture?

posted February 05, 2005 07:04 PM              

Alot like to be victims of their circumstances. That's fine. You have the choice, free-will to do so, but until you learn to use this gift of free will to your advantage you will forever be at the mercy of other people and "bad luck".

Your "outer world" and everything in it is actually just a big reflection of your inner self. Let this sink in. Every thought you think is sending out vibrations/energy and will eventually come back to you. Every positive and negative event in your life YOU have manifested into your reality. I could really go on and on about this it would take a long time. Until the person is sick of life "happening to them" and sick of being a "poor me" their life will continue to suck and they will sit there wondering why. When you've had it "up to here" with feeling like you are a victim of circumstances, that is when you are ready to start realizing these Truths. And if you want to know them - the Universe will present them to you. When you are ready anything that you need to know will be known.

When you start to uncover that your thoughts really do create your reality, you are forever changed and can no longer blame anyone but yourself for everthing in your life. EVERYTHING. Some people are ready for this. Most arent. Most would like to be victims. It's easier that way. And this is what they have been taught, it's all they know.

I hope this doesnt sound harsh. I am not judging anyone else, just expressing my opinion and my own k-NOWing of how things work. I dont have it all figured out yet but I have seen how truthful this actually is and have applied it and seen the effects. It's actually quite amazing in it's simplicity. But also takes persistant work to reach a point of constant application or unfoldment.

Once you see that you and only you, are the Master of your destiny and your thoughts are extrememly powerful things -
you can not turn back. You become responsible. The victim in you is tossed aside and you take full responsibility for your life and everything you bring into it. BUT, most people dont want to take responsibility. That is why we have governments, police forces, laws and so on. We give up our power. Wake up people become your own Gods and Masters! This is what He wants. But He has given us the choice. It is *All* up to us. Hear the Truth and live it.

Quit yer bitchin'. LOL

Sorry I get a little passionate about this subject, because I see it as truth. Maybe it will wake something up in some of the other "seekers" out there. I'm not looking for an arguement. Just expressing my opinion. And I still work on this myself.