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maya-v
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posted February 25, 2005 10:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Technically, I am supposed to be a sane, practical Taurus, with a Virgo rising that would not settle for anything but perfection. I have all the traits of earthy, reasonable, materialistic bulls - hard-working, sensuous and comfort seeking. But most of the time, my Pisces moon foils a lot of my sane plans to work and focus - it sneaks up on me and makes me day dream at the oddest times. I also get very emotional skittish and get all the mess that goes with a mutable watery moon. Is that possible - the Moon getting heavy on the Sun and redefining personalities?

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Aquarian Girl
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posted February 25, 2005 11:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people believe that your Moon sign is in fact more important than your Sun and, as such is your true "Astrological Sign"... but of course both play a part, regardless of which you believe is the true sign or whatever.

Have a look at the placement of your moon and it's aspects. Is it heavily aspected? What house is it in? Do you have any otherwater or mutuable planets? Your Pisces moon may be a singleton and so more powerful.

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted February 25, 2005 11:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe it...I've been told repeatedly that I am not your typical Virgo, in fact some people ask me later on, "Are you SURE you're a Virgo?"

My Sun isn't really that significant in my chart once you start looking at what else is going on. I believe my Moon really, truly is the focal point in my chart. My Moon is exalted in my chart (in Taurus), it's in the first house, it's the apex of a yod, it's conjunct my Chiron...and after reading about the other aspects it makes (1 square and 2 very strong oppositions) it brings out those things in me bigtime too. Also the same sign the moon is in happens to rule my chart.

I also have a Libra stellium that seems to fight with my moon and overrules my sun.

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scorpbaby
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posted February 25, 2005 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My moon(Taurus) is a Singleton also and I've always strongly identified with it but my Sun is also in the 1st house. So I don't know which has the more influence...

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sassygrrrl
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posted February 25, 2005 02:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As the Moon sign & House its in is past life related, it feels more stronger because it's where we're coming from. It's our past life Comfort Zone, so therefore we can relate to it better.

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neptune's mermaid
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posted February 25, 2005 05:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I’m a Virgo…cool. I Virgos Bring on the emotional stability

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astro junkie
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posted February 26, 2005 10:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maya-v -

As an Air Sign with a Water Moon, I DO understand what you are saying. It reminds me of a new topic I wanted to start here and forgot about, which is a little similar to what you bring up here.

I was going to actually post regarding my Sun & Asc's struggle with each other up until just a few years ago. But in reference to my Sun & Moon, I've also learned to deal with seemingly contradictory intentions. My Sun in a Air Sign wanted to continue along it's natural logical path, and then my Moon would take me on a tangent worthy of the Aspects they make - Square! Not only is it frustrating to have to take time to babysit your Moon's needs at the most inconvenient times, but it's frustrating to others who only know of one word to describe the confusion - moodiness.

I'll start the thread on the similar battle between my Sun & Asc.

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Moonshine9
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posted February 26, 2005 10:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Maya!
I believe what Aqua Girl said. I do feel that it all depends where that particular planet is placed. For instance I'm a Taurus too but most people think I'm a Pisces. I have Venus in Pisces and Saturn as well so maybe their placed in a more intense part of your chart? My moon is in Libra and because of that I feel I relate to Libras fairly well. I feel a sort of kinship towards them?
I don't know if that makes any sense.

Have a great day everyone!

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maya-v
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posted February 27, 2005 12:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meeeeee!!!

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Taurus 20°29'58 09 direct
Moon Pisces 04°27'42 06/7 direct
Moon is technically near the end of house 6 and is interpreted in house 7.
Mercury Taurus 04°57'31 09 retrograde
Venus Aries 11°40'12 08 direct
Mars Aries 10°30'20 08 direct
Jupiter Gemini 08°04'47 10 direct
Saturn Leo 10°45'17 12 direct
Uranus Scorpio 09°18'01 03 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 15°25'42 04 retrograde
Pluto Libra 11°50'31 02 retrograde
True Node Libra 24°06'32 02 direct


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 05°05'22
2nd House Libra 01°00'26
3rd House Scorpio 00°49'25
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 03°07'25
5th House Capricorn 05°34'15
6th House Aquarius 06°28'11
Descendant Pisces 05°05'22
8th House Aries 01°00'26
9th House Taurus 00°49'25
Medium Coeli Gemini 03°07'25
11th House Cancer 05°34'15
12th House Leo 06°28'11

Major aspects
Moon Sextile Mercury 0°30
Moon Square Jupiter 3°37
Moon Trine Uranus 4°50
Moon Opposition Ascendant 0°38
Mercury Square Saturn 5°48
Mercury Opposition Uranus 4°20
Mercury Trine Ascendant 0°08
Venus Conjunction Mars 1°10
Venus Sextile Jupiter 3°35
Venus Trine Saturn 0°55
Venus Quincunx Uranus 2°22
Venus Trine Neptune 3°46
Venus Opposition Pluto 0°10
Mars Sextile Jupiter 2°26
Mars Trine Saturn 0°15
Mars Quincunx Uranus 1°12
Mars Trine Neptune 4°55
Mars Opposition Pluto 1°20
Jupiter Sextile Saturn 2°41
Jupiter Quincunx Uranus 1°13
Jupiter Trine Pluto 3°46
Jupiter Square Ascendant 2°59
Saturn Square Uranus 1°27
Saturn Trine Neptune 4°40
Saturn Sextile Pluto 1°05
Uranus Sextile Ascendant 4°13
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3°35

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neptune's mermaid
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posted February 27, 2005 12:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We’re the opposite maya, I’m a water Sun, earth Moon.

I think a water sign can dominate your chart like no other. Especially if it’s in your Sun, Moon or ascendant. It can drown you other strong aspects and make you very watery . Linda did say water was the most powerful element

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Azalaksh
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posted February 27, 2005 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting topic, Maya. I'm an Air Sun Water Moon like A.J., but there are times I feel more Pisces than Libra (like now, with those 4 planets in Pisces!). My Moon is in the 8th, a singleton, and it's also the apex of what I was told was the "Bucket configuration" where one planet is the handle and all the rest are the bucket. It's also the base of a kite and one of the points of a grand trine.
My Pisces Moon does the same underhanded gig yours does: foiling my best-laid calculated Airy plans!

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BlueRoamer
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posted February 27, 2005 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Water is not as strong as the 5th element....the element of raqzuaqua

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Azalaksh
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posted February 27, 2005 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BR -- what signs would be ruled by this newly-discovered element?!?

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CNO732
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posted February 28, 2005 12:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally agree with Mya ... I am Virgo sun and Sag rising and Leo moon. Many people often ask me if I'm really a Virgo ... My Leo moon just overides evrything often ... Most Virgos I know irritate the heck out of me: real negative, slow to act, cheap, cheap cheap (did I say cheap ...lol) and something about them being to scretive ets to me ... I'm very impulsive, love change, love spending money, open with disussion about me to a fault and generally more upbeat, outgoing and idealistic than the Virgos I know. My fire rising and moon keep me from being too much of a Virgo (and many times I thank God for that)

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted February 28, 2005 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting (if not kind of worrying [there goes my cappy rising!]).

I admit sometimes my Aries Moon does get very prominant... it depends.... when I'm with people I don't know, I'm very shy and retiring (a Virgo/Cappy combo there, with unfortunate placing of Saturn in my 1st house) but when I'm with friends, I'm totally nuts, very friendly, maybe a little self-centered? Ha! I suppose when you know your chart you can think to yourself sometimes, "Yeah, I really remind myself of an Aries there".... creepy...

BUT surely the sun sign must be more important?? Afterall, it is the one people have been picking up on for years. Surely the Sun must be more powerful than a luminary?? A reflection? Hmmm.... but then it IS annoying when people say "Oh, but I'm nothing like my sun sign so I don't believe in astrology" and you try and explain it to them and they look like you're crazy. "A con- what in my 2nd what?? What's in my anus??!" *sigh*......

It's sometimes thought that your Ascendent is more important than both of these. Sometimes I have to remind myself I'm not a Capricorn or I get carried away....

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astro junkie
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posted March 01, 2005 11:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah! I think I know of the new Element raqzuaqua, which you speak of!

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