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SavageScorpio
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posted March 28, 2005 07:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatsup everyone. I need some advice regarding my relationship with my Pisces pal. I'm a Scorpio, Asc Gem, Moon Leo, Venus in Scorpio, and Mars in Aquarius. He's Pisces Sun, Aries Asc/Venus/Mars, and Aquarius moon. From everything I've collected it seem's that we are supposedly pretty compatible.

I've had some really difficult times with this guy though, and I don't know what to do! Since I met him, he's seen me at my worst, and he defintly contributed to some of my 51/50ness. I care about him a lot, however, because we've been through a lot together. He never talks though, so I don't feel like I know him whatsoever, and it drives me crazy. How can you trust an Aries Venus? One thing about him, he's rather passively controlling..like having his friends watch me, etc; so suspicious and whatnot, when HE's the one that cheats and denies it with a straight face. Numerous people have told me things about him that just aren't good, and I don't doubt it's true, because he lies a lot *as to not hurt me I suppose*, and he drinks a lot. I just want to know where our relationship stands. I don't want to get hurt, and have tried the serious relationship thing, only to be mocked behind green eyes, and tried the casual sex thing, only to feel dissatisfied... so it's like ahh what now? I got pregnant by him, and didn't talk to him for a month. He called me to say happy easter of course, after I'd told him previously that I don't want him in my life..anywho, we kicked it and I told him that I'd had an abortion, and he didn't say anything. How does someone remain silent to something like that? It just appalls me. I'm like okay, obviously you are just using me, and so I'm not going to put much faith in you or take anything seriously, and just go on with my life, having sex with you casually I suppose. I'm independently crazy on independence, so I don't much have a problem with the no-strings attatched, lovers & friends scenario, because I know anything more isn't possible between us I presume, and I'm sick of being the one to initiate it. If he likes me enough he should initiate it, but he doesn't talk as it is. He just smiles. It drives me nuts. I want to smack him! haha. Yet at the same time, even though I know he's BAD, ALL BAD, I can't hate him because he's so gentle on the surface, even though it's just a fascade. Damn Arian Pisces...I just don't know what he wants from me. He gets off on having a girl be completely dependent on him, like I love you I need you o baby o baby, and I refuse to play that role again, because he doesn't show any feelings back. It's as if he has no feelings. Argh. HELP!

How do I crack this nut.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 28, 2005 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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pinkitaries2
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posted March 28, 2005 11:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry to hear the way you have been treated...my heart goes out to you...it seems you are handling this situation maturely more so than him, however this cannot be healthy for you...I can say I have had hard times with pisces men as well...they do have a problem with liquids...so to speak...and they have been known to cheat...venus in aries is not the most reliable venus sign...I have dated an aquarius/pisces with this venus placement...great in the beginning...no longevity. I think you deserve better. Is just hooking up with this guy, casuallly, all you think you are worth? I mean you had an abortion from this guys baby...and he didn't have any supoortive comments to say? Oh I don't think so! I am sorry but I would not put up with this at all! I know it's hard when you care about someone to let them go...but in this case...do. I wish you the best.

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aries-chick
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posted March 28, 2005 11:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not the aries in him that bugs you, nor do I think this is a Scorpio/Pisces problem.. In my opinion it's the aloof Aqua moon (opp your moon and square your sun). I find them too aloof for my taste as well sometimes. I'm guessing it'd bother you a whole lot more than it'd bother me though.. being a Scorp/Leo.. You'd prolly feel a lot more comfortable with Leo moons or Scorp moons. Aqua influence might not be your type.

My best friend Pisces/Taurus moon... venus/mars in Aries is normally honest and straight forward. She has cheated once where she was the other girl which I thought was pretty bad. I don't think she'd ever do it again though. It was ona those one of mistakes - the guy was a pisces to..

But bk to Aqua moon. I find it to be very un-emotional. I don't mind them as friends.. but way too detached for my own Cap moon. I think it's that detachment you can't figure out.. As a scorp, intensity is prolly ona the things that matter most to you, and looking at his chart I don't think he'd have that kind of emotional intensity.

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SavageScorpio
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posted March 29, 2005 02:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I agree with you on that. I've been trying to understand this guy for DAYS, and I'm starting to understand the method to his madness. It's just the way he is, and I'm used to his behavior so I know how to deal with it, because that's the way he is, nothing I say is going to change him. Besides, I wouldn't want to change anyone. I know our relationship isn't anything substantial or lasting because our differences, we are friends, who sometimes have sex you know? However, I don't know if I still want to keep doing that. It leaves me feeling kind of empty. At the same time I care about him as a person, and want to see him do well, and I guess in some way I hope that I'll be an inspiration to him. He isn't a horrible person, he's just him....however, we aren't compatible. So it's like can we be friends and not have sex. No. Doubt it. At the same time, we've been through a lot together, and I can't eliminate him, and I don't see what for. Instead I guess I'm going to try to just distance myself, because I am going into the Air Force as it is, but still maintain a friendship. Eh. who knows. We're already pretty distanced enough as it is. He told me that he has a hard time trusting people, sometimes it takes years, and I understand him on that level because I do to. We're just different people though, and life goes on.

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aries-chick
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posted March 29, 2005 04:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think distancing yourself is the thing to do. Mainly if having sex with him makes you feel bad/empty.. You titled this thread love/hate.. but do you really feel like you're in love with him? Because there is a difference between caring for someone as a friend and being sexually attracted to them and actually loving them. I don't think you love this guy (maybe you just feel tied to him) and it seems like a relationship that isn't doing you any good, that you should break free from so you meet someone else who you feel more IN TUNE with.. that person who you can look at and know that when they're looking back at you they know exactly how you feel and why and they are there for you emotionaly (someone who's intense enough). Aqua moon can't really ever BE there.. they're always just a bit out of reach and it's frustrating.

Personally, I don't think this guy is worth wallowing over too much for you..

PS. Do his personal planets conjuct your south node?

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sue g
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posted March 29, 2005 05:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, SS (love the name), I agree with HSC and Aries Chick. I have a very honourable partner, honest, hardworking and would do anything for me BUT he has Aqua moon and it is impossible for me - he can see me in floods of tears and say "are you okay" and this makes me crazy. He said to me the other day "I envy your capacity to feel - you feel so deeply about everything - it would take me a long time to get there". So Id say to you Scorpio lady get away from this destructive man, the Aqua moon ALONE is extremely difficult for a Scorp woman but added to this he sounds very cruel - run as fast as you can honey, it will be the best thing you can do - love to you sue xx

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GingerB
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posted March 29, 2005 10:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*whispers*

No matter what you do decide to do, please use protection.

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sthenri
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posted March 29, 2005 10:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you are already involved with him so I wouldn't say cut him out of your life, that would be too painful. He's not a bad habit, he was a friend and so there were probably reasons why you liked him at first. The challenge is that you have already explored your feelings for him and they have hit a wall. Now you feel angry and guilty, but it's not just you and him, it's that your needs aren't being met and you can't communicate to him because you are so mad.

You want a response but you really want to love him, that's kind of masochistic because you are not concetrating on getting love, just giving.
If you are a giver that's great, but now is the time to not wrap yourself up in anyone person for a while, that means being his friend without emotional ties-HE may not think sex is emotional, but you do, and so I urge you to date other men, as quickly as possible.

As for cheating with a straight face, you don't know that, and it's not significant for you to worry about him. I have Venus in Aries, and Mars on the Ascendant, Sag Mars, and I have been told I am inconstant and do not have long term potential many times. That's an opinion, but I need to have something happy to look forward to, and love isn't always happy. Guilt is a huge issue for me, if there is guilt I will leave, but I never stop loving anyone, or ever stop thinking about someone once I have made contact-not ever. In fact I am very loyal, if not always physically. I just got off a merry go round with a Venus in Cancer and he was not loyal and treated me like dirt.
So much for Venus signs!

Everyone needs something different to be happy, maybe your Pisces isn't happy in love? Maybe it makes him feel worse?

And why didn't you tell him you were pregnant before? Why carry that alone, did you want to punish yourself or him? You deserve more from yourself, don't be so hard on yourself all the time, stop feeling guilty for him, ease up, and find out what it takes to make you happy first, and then he will be happy eventually.

Venus in Aries does get a bad rap especially with Sun in Pisces, but these types do eventually settle into friendships mainly, they rarely get married that I can see, Scorpios on the other hand, usually love bonding and cuddling. It's not natural for a fox and a lion to mate!

You need cuddling bad,

Love, Hugs, and Kisses,

Natasha
Taurus/
cancer moon

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SavageScorpio
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posted March 29, 2005 03:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not mad at him, I've been mad, but I know it's hopeless, so I don't even think of it like that anymore. Whatsoever. I just think of it as a learning experience, and I think the reason I feel tied to him is because he's the first person I've had sex with consecutively. YES, seriously. hahaha. I don't love him, and I don't plan on it, I know he doesn't love me, and I'm okay with that...does that make any sense? I don't have any feelings for him, because I know he doesn't have any feelings for me, so I'm not going to waste my time. Everything I do it seems is a search for understanding, I've just been intrigued by him, wondering if it's just me or if he's always like that, haha. However, it's just the person he is, and you're right, what makes me happy, evidently doesn't spark his interest. We're just two different people. He's a cool person, and he's made me realize a lot about myself, and life in general, but I think anything I can take from the relationship, or learn from it, I've already....eh I dunno. I go around saying "everyone has something to offer, everyone has a story to tell"..ya know, like an open mind, and I think it gets me in these predicaments. ARGH. So how do I break away.

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astro junkie
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posted April 05, 2005 03:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


Sounds like you've answered your own question, but need some supportive advice. You've observed and recognized a lot in him, so I'd say you're on the right track. You may not have been around this forum a whole lot, or read my posts, but I'm no stranger to friends with benefits and the such. This does not mean it is a lifestyle I prefer. WE ALL deep down inside want that forever after love with someone made just for us. When we don't get it, we are willing to compromise. Just be careful how you're reasoning yourself into a compromise, and be careful.

It's great when it's great. But when you find things changing within you, that you want more ... well ... you cannot ignore that little voice. Tell him what's going on, and see if he's head-over-heels in love with you. If he's not, no amount of benefits will ever fulfill you.

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