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Topic: virgos are pigeonholed
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suzyque unregistered
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posted April 13, 2005 09:41 AM
Do you other virgos feel as if people make really broad judgements about you all the time? You know all the typical stuff, perfectionist, shy etc. I will agree that a lot of it is true to differing degrees depending on your other influences, but mostly the one that bothers me the most is how people think we are these emotionless robots who don't even think about sex or ever want to engage in it. If you just look a little deeper you will see that we have so much emotion we just don't feel comfortable openly expressing it.Just wanted to lay that out there.IP: Logged |
thirteen unregistered
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posted April 13, 2005 09:55 AM
YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate it when people generalize and most everyone does. That is such a VIRGO dislike. I don't know what we can do about it, probably nothing but i do hate that too. I think its part of why i don't tell people much about myself anymore. IP: Logged |
astro junkie unregistered
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posted April 13, 2005 12:09 PM
I think each Sign has to go through generalizations. Every person has to deal with generalizations, first impressions and judgements. That's part of our challenge.Aries - Although headstrong & impulsive, can be some of the most compassionate and gentle among us. Taurus - Although stubborn, they can be a great source of inspiration. Their Fixed nature likes to introduce people to other people. Gemini - Logical and detached. But has incredible staying power for people who have been given up on. Cancer - Moody and emotional. Their business sense and organizational abilities are a force to be reckoned with. Leo - Show-off's and arrogant. They can relate so well to the downtrodden, or those who've struggled with the same ego challenges. Their inner sense of pride can be contageous. Virgo - Perfectionists or prudes. They are Mutable's, so give'em a break. They'll hang on to whatever they can to prove they are right. Libra - Argumentive or quite peaceful. Easily colored by other factors in their Chart. So that there are Firey ones, Watery ones, Earthy ones and Air heads. Scorpio - Vengeful and scary. One of the most tenacious truth seekers around. Sagittarius - Flighty and impulsive speakers. They have great love of humanity and they have the energy to take anything on. Capricorns - Hard working and party killers. There is a PLAYFUL side to them just BEGGING for a chance to come out. Aquarius - Detached and humanitarian. Can be at the forefront (or center) of some of the most passionate revolutions in the making. They suffer quietly. Pisces - Unrealistic and intuitive. They have the strength to welcome all that is good and possible by breaking down once seemingly important boundaries. That's my off the top interp on this ... IP: Logged |
CNO732 unregistered
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posted April 13, 2005 12:53 PM
THAT WAS ON POINT ASTRA JUNKIE ...Yeah, Virgo's get bad raps ... But I am one and have known many who are and they can be chore bores sometimes ... I thank God sometimes for my Sag rising/Leo moon ... Virgo's are very lively, outgoing, fun people ... just takes a little time to warm them up cause they are so distrusting and wary of everything and everyone .. they just want everything to be perfect, analyze way too much and keep everyone at a distance cause only the truly worthy will get all their is to offer from them, which is A LOT .. they are purists, serious about life, love and how ur suposed to treat people and don't like BS and flighty folks ... IP: Logged |
The Mutable Night Force Knowflake Posts: 122 From: England Registered: Oct 2009
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posted April 13, 2005 01:10 PM
I try not to tell people my sign. I get them to guess, and Virgo is always the last one they guess!!! But the pigeonholing does suck. As I think Linda said, we are the most "inwardly emtional". However, judging by the way I've been blowing my top and spontaniously crying today, I'd say raving lunatic was more accurate. IP: Logged |
suzyque unregistered
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posted April 13, 2005 02:30 PM
That was an interesting montage astrojunkie.However i didn't understand the give em a break they are mutable's part for virgos. What does that mean anyway? Maybe being a prude is a good thing in this day an age?! No explanation neccessary.IP: Logged |
Secret Garden unregistered
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posted April 13, 2005 03:37 PM
If it makes any of you feel better, I had a horrible marriage with a Virgo man, who got abusive in the end, but I still do like several things about Virgos. Although I dont think they're meant for me relationship wise, And that is: 1. You guys are so caring and detail oriented! I know a Virgo will never forget my birthday, and will always listen when I tell them something 2. You may be a little more silent than the average mutable sign, but your body language is so strongly empathetic that its hard not to consider you good friends. I totally think Virgos are cut out for counseling and other service jobs, truly, because of your ability to make people so comfy with you so quickly. 3. Most Virgos I know can balance their life pretty well; they're not geeks at school or party animals either, but that just shows that you're well rounded, and as a Gem sun I can totally understand and appreciate that. 4. You guys have a wacky wonderful sense of humor! Youre so eloquent, it must be that Mercury thing, us Gems are mercurians also and we totally get your communication style, its so cute and funny in that cynical analytical way. I always like to think that Mercury is so cool! It can help you in so many areas of life; anything that requires communication, and only like 90 percent of all jobs require good communication! So we really do have a forte being Mercurians 5. Lots of Virgos tend to bridge the thinking gap between air/logic signs and earth/practical signs, and they blend both aspects so well. Its amazing how well the typical Virgo can relate to both Taurus/Cappies as well as Gem/Aquas etc. Not to mention that, as you said, you're not devoid of emotion, but just don't make public displays of it. Once again, as a Gem sun I totally get that and admire it too. Love SG IP: Logged |
suzyque unregistered
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posted April 13, 2005 03:48 PM
Secret garden that was a really heartfelt and sweet commentary. Not that i was looking to get my ego stroked, i was just reading someone elses post earlier and it had a negative connatation about virgos and it just irked me to the point i needed to vent. I am sorry your ex was abusive.And i totally agree with the link between gem's and virgo's. I feel an instinctive friendship with gem's, i love talking to them cause their minds function in much the same way as ours, and they love to talk and debate and comment which i love to do also.The only thing is they are a little hard to pin down but i know how to work around that pretty well as my mom is a gem.IP: Logged |
Ayumi unregistered
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posted April 13, 2005 08:49 PM
THANK you, Suzy Q. Being organized and perfect is just an outward expression -its not our personality, so why are we always described that way?? My house is sooo messy, I'm always late, I take no interest in color-coding socks. But I really like to organise my thoughts, and I love LOOKING perfect. I strive to make my art/music/emotions as beautiful and right as possible. Virgo is an approach to life, not a personality. I do worry alot though. ALOT. Anyway thanks Suzy, I feel the same way! IP: Logged |
Battle of Evermore Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 13, 2005 09:47 PM
SG, you are so sweet, and that's really noble of you not to have a bad image of us after such a bad marriage. I love Geminis, my grandmother is one, and she practically raised me, I was suffocated by my pices mother, and cancer father. we have wonderful debates. I have two Gem buddies who I always have a blast with. But to the point, yeah I'm sick of the typical virgo image, yeah I'm anaylitical (Aqua asc. contributes to that too.), but I'm not a tightwadd worry wart.IP: Logged |
sVirgo Knowflake Posts: 51 From: Colorado Registered: May 2009
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posted April 13, 2005 10:29 PM
Yes, it's true in my case. I can not trust abc.... So I consider myself living a life of virgin.IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 13, 2005 11:07 PM
Hello, all you sexy virgos! I loved reading your posts. I would be interested in hearing more virgos talking about virgos. I'm surrounded by them, and I love them all, but they're a bit mystifying to me at times. One thing I hear over and over again (even from you guys, so I hope I'm not pigeon-holing!) is that it takes a LOT for a virgo to open up and share those emotions. I am guilty of referring to a few of my virgos as "emotionless robots" and I can't tell you how thrilling it is to be wrong about that! (I KNEW they couldn't be robots!) Thanks for restoring my faith in humanity. What I mean by that is that I know some virgos who are very convincing when they say they just don't feel and truthfully, that kind of breaks my heart. So I'm happy to hear this is not the case. Soooo... what is it that makes you guys open up? Or is that a secret, too! IP: Logged |
Ayumi unregistered
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posted April 14, 2005 12:31 AM
The secret to a Virgo opening up is: Knowing for SURE you won't be as critical of us as we are of ourselves. ehh you know what. Its more like : Show us its ok to be us, a work in progress!that's one of them, anyway.
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Motherkonfessor unregistered
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posted April 14, 2005 04:09 AM
Virgos, pigeonholed?............no way!(ya think?) what makes a virgo open up? tell me im sexy....about every 5 minutes. thats a good start. was it on another board that i saw the "emotionless robots" comment? perhaps. that may have been why i didnt come back to LL for a few days because that hurt- alot. but of course, in true virgo style i'll bleed on the inside...get a tummyache...and i'll forgive it in a few hours... (thats why its soooo easy to overlook a virgo..because we'll just shrug off the frailities and misspeaks of all the rest of the signs....because we are the most "human" of the signs...we understand. and we'll always clean up the messes.) MK IP: Logged |
Secret Garden unregistered
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posted April 14, 2005 04:14 AM
MK, I beg to differ with the emotionless robots bit, and I have met Virgos full of lots of lovin, and so far as the sex desire goes, one especially that I know was really steamy in bed, or rather, he preferred every place but the bed but he was just too steamy u know. Love SG IP: Logged |
Motherkonfessor unregistered
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posted April 14, 2005 05:31 PM
uh, i didnt make the emotionless robots comment.i was commenting ON it. of course i disagree with it... im a VIRGO! MK IP: Logged |
Secret Garden unregistered
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posted April 14, 2005 08:09 PM
I know, I think I didn't write it correctly. What I meant was, I ALSO beg to differ with the emotionless robots comment, just like you did. Not that Im begging to differ from you, but from that comment. Make sense now? Anyway sorry if I ****** u off, Im doing that to everyone today, must be something with my Merc going on, gotta check those transits... SG IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 14, 2005 10:26 PM
Ya know? I'm kind of wondering if I made the "e.r." remark somewhere. I even checked back through my posts to see if I said it. (Anal, I know, but I love the Virgos and wouldn't want to step on any toes.) If it was me (like I said, I've said it before, but where, I'm not sure.) then my reasons had more to do with my own feelings of rejection rather than an attack on anyone. (No actual Virgos were harmed in the making of this post! ) Not cool, in any case. But I pass it along to you so that if anyone was offended by whoever said it, maybe it had more to do with their hurt feelings than a criticism on Virgo-kind. (Did I cover all the bases?!)*Mr. Love of my Life is a Virgo and sometimes his need for self-protection can be painful for me.* Okay, I'm leaving now... talk amongst yourselves! IP: Logged |
Motherkonfessor unregistered
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posted April 14, 2005 11:30 PM
no no, SG, i dig it now. i just didnt understand the post before... lets just both blame mercury and all is well... cool?self protection...theres an interesting way to put it.. that post sent me into deep thought. well, at least as much deep thought as i can muster because im in the midst of an unprovoked emotional crisis- crying every 15 minutes and its NOT PMS, amazingly- and i realized that the things ive lost, the issues i have with my virgo-self and the things id wish id done and wished i'd said.... i didnt, because i was protecting myself. and yet still, here i sit in pain. thanks for the epiphany... really, thats not Mercury sarcasm. MK IP: Logged |
steelrose Knowflake Posts: 108 From: Spain Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2005 12:20 PM
Hi everyone!!!I’m a Virgo too!!! And I also get so hurt with those short-sighted descriptions of our kind... WE ARE NOT BORING OR PRUDISH... That’s for sure... And definitely not emotionless robots... But we do need time to trust... A way to conquer us? Tell us the truth with sensitivity... Let us know you love us... Selflessly... We tend to give more than we ever receive... And when we receive we know how to be grateful. Once we have given you our heart, don’t ever betray us and we will be yours forever... I’d say we are dormant volcanoes... Unearth the passion and tremble... CNO... Are you a Sag rising/Leo Moon? That sounds cool!!! I bet you are pretty firey like myself!!! I’m a Sag rising too... Conjunct with my Sag Moon and Neptune... Never forgetting my Leo Venus and Saturn!!! Secret Garden, we cross paths again! Sorry to hear about your ex... I`m glad you don’t hold those bad memories as prejudices against us Virgos... You’re so sweet... And so right... I hardly forget a date (especially birthdays), no matter how apparently meaningless it is...
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steelrose Knowflake Posts: 108 From: Spain Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2005 12:24 PM
(previous post continued)Yes, I consider myself to be silent... At least, initially... When I’m studying a new environment or person... I listen carefully before making up my mind and deciding to trust or not, to like or dislike... I stay in the background, trying to be unnoticed to see the truth behind the scenes... And I’m hardly wrong in my veredict... My ex used to get soooo frustrated because I was always right (well, OK, 99.99999999% of the times ) We do have a sense of humour, a pretty sharp, witty and sarcastic one... Very fun to share with Gems... Ayumi, you are soooooo right... I’m a bit like you... The mess in my desk at work is legendary... And my bedroom is an aparent chaos... But the order is within... It’s all crystal clear in my head... Ask for anything and I’ll know where to find it... I love my ordered disorder... And I also love looking perfect... I suppose knowing you will be less critical of us than we are is part of feeling truly loved... Because that’s the only way we can relax... Motherkonfessor... Oh yes!!! That tummyache thing is so true! And being overlooked... We rarely make scenes, even when deeply hurt... We do tend to forgive... until the day the limit is reached when we just leave without a word... A secret?... We like to be TOLD we are loved feeling that it’s the truth, as if we needed to be reminded that we have a place in this world... It’s not enough to know it, we need to hear it... Words have magic for us, Mercury’s children... Nice to have met you all!!!! IP: Logged |
suzyque unregistered
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posted April 15, 2005 01:00 PM
I am so happy to hear all the wonderful responses.I really didn't expect so much from everyone. I think virgos are special people that get overlooked a lot, if people would only look a little deeper they would see that.Good luck to all of you. Who ever it was that was asking about getting us to open up i would say just don't judge us or criticize us just be there for us and after awhile when we feel we can trust you then we will open up, at least a little anyway. IP: Logged |
Battle of Evermore Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 15, 2005 02:10 PM
My room is a horrible mess(only not an orderly one)! Do you think that that is a way for us to show others that we are human to and not perfectionist robots? Everyone has imperfections so it's a way to let that out? Yeah about getting us to open up, just be yourself, show that you can have fun, don't judge us, and be nice. That's a start, I just auttomatically open up to some, while it takes some work with others.IP: Logged |
sue g unregistered
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posted April 15, 2005 02:50 PM
Im married to a Virgo (sag rising, moon aquar) and he is one of the most open minded and fair people I know. He isnt very forthcoming in the emotional department, but is NOT prudish, the opposite, very sexy and anything goes with him! He always sees two sides to every argument, but is a workaholic, a perfectionist and very self critical and very honest xxIP: Logged |
Battle of Evermore Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 15, 2005 03:32 PM
Sounds sexy Sue G *Growwwlll* lol Yay for Virgo/Aquas! Had to say that, got an Aqua asc. IP: Logged | |