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metoo
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posted April 13, 2005 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for metoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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jwhop
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posted April 14, 2005 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello metoo

In synastry, double aspects between the same two planets or double aspects from planets to the Asc could be significant...for better or worse. It's difficult to determine without knowing what planets are involved and what the aspects are.

There are so many different aspect interpretations floating around that it's sometimes confusing. I try to stick to what I consider basic when looking at relationship charts..synastry.

Soft aspects, sextile, trine or conjunctions between Sun/Moon, Sun/Venus, Sun/Asc, Moon/Asc, Venus/Asc...love aspects of varying strength and Venus/Pluto considered by Linda Goodman to be karmic.

Soft aspects between Mercury and inner planets and/or Asc

Soft aspects between Mars/Venus, Mars/Moon, Pluto/Moon...physical attraction

Sun/Mars....energy

Saturn to inner planets...especially to the Sun. Saturn binds people together in relationships and especially Sun square Saturn which Linda considered the most important aspect that binds a couple together...even though it might be highly frustrating.

No couple is likely to have all those aspects but I would look for a strong love aspect, a strong physical attraction aspect and a Saturn aspect to bind the relationship together.

There are many others but I would look for aspects in each category to give the relationship a better chance to stand the test of time.

Of all the aspect interpretations I've seen, Linda Goodman's are the best...in my opinion. The money spent for a copy of Relationship Signs is money well spent for aspect interpretations. Some don't like the book but the aspect interpretations are Linda's...even though the rest of the book was not.

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posted April 14, 2005 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are good Jhwop!

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posted April 14, 2005 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for metoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 14, 2005 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for metoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 14, 2005 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello metoo

Let's talk about your negative aspects with the Pisces first.

Usually, a chart will specify what the aspects are. In this case since
they're denoted as negative aspects. I'm making an assumption they're either squares or oppositions or a combination of both.

This is what the aspect interpretation in my program says about Mars Square/Oppose Uranus.

"It's impossible for such a union to happen but, if it does, it will only lead to violence and extreme aggression."

A strong clash of wills that Linda Goodman describes as clash, crash, smash and bash.

Both parties being strong willed, there will be confrontations and with Uranus involved confrontations can come up suddenly. The resentment from the arguments can last a while.

Coming from both directions, this is going to be hard to handle.

More struggles with Pluto squaring/opposing the Asc. Pluto plays to win and this is going to be a power struggle...from both sides.

Look for Pluto to attempt to change you...or who Pluto thinks you are given your Asc is your public face. Failing this and it will fail, look for efforts by Pluto to control and tighten that control until you conform to Pluto's specification of perfection. Coming from both directions, this is going to be a battle.

Making predictions based on just a few aspects is risky. I don't know what the rest of your report looks like but there's enough potential trouble here for 2 relationships and particularly because Mars, Pluto the Asc and Uranus are involved in hard aspects from both directions.

I think it might be very hard for you and the Leo to totally disengage from each other and move on.

From Relationship Signs

Venus, sextile, trine or conjunct Pluto
"with any of these 3 aspects, especially the conjunction, you will meet involuntarily, and cannot be separated on Earth except for temporary periods....

"These are powerful karmic vibrations of love, the kind of relationship called "love at first sight", which is not a fable but attributable to Karma. When apart you both feel an inexpressible longing for one another, however much you may try to deny it for personal reasons.

The Square and opposition are karmic as well but cause friction.

OK metoo, these are just my opinions. You will take your que from how what's been said relates to your situation.

I don't know what the Leo did but I'm a member in good standing in the Leo Club and if you wish, I'll have him booted.

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metoo
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posted April 14, 2005 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for metoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 14, 2005 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you look at the relationship chart with the Pisces for soft aspects, positive aspects according to your report between Sun/Moon, Sun/Venus, Venus/Mars etc? See, I'm trying to see the attraction between him and you. Must be something there besides him being available.

Are you a Cappy girl with Venus in Aquarius by any chance? The long distance romance is a little unusual and you're showing loads of patience. Or is part of the attraction the fact that they're far away?

Let's see, you won't ask the Leo to move and he wouldn't move anyway. So did he ask you to move...or is that part of what you're unhappy about.

Just for the record, most Leo's would want their relationships up close and personal...not long distance.

One other thing about your report with the Leo. You mentioned both positive and negative aspects between Mars and Neptune. The negative aspects...square and opposition speak to lies...Neptune, aggression...Mars...strength against lying possibly destroying the relationship.

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posted April 14, 2005 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Lalalinda

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posted April 15, 2005 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for metoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 15, 2005 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
metoo, these are your aspects with the Leo and Pisces. When you find a copy of Linda Goodman's Relationship Signs, you can look them up...or someone may have a good online site for aspect interpretations...for relationships.

metoo/Leo
Sun Square Moon
Sun Square Jupiter
Sun Square Saturn
Sun Sextile Uranus
Mercury Sextile Midheaven
Venus Square Mars
Venus Square Pluto
Venus Oppose Asc
Mars Conjunct Neptune
Jupiter Sextile Neptune
Jupiter Conjunct Pluto
Saturn Conjunct Moon
Uranus Sextile Neptune
Uranus Conjunct Pluto
Neptune Sextile Sun
Neptune Trine Mars
Neptune Conjunct Neptune
Neptune Sextile Pluto
Pluto Trine Sun
Pluto Trine Mercury
Pluto Trine Venus
Pluto Oppose Mars
Pluto Conjunct Pluto
Pluto Square Asc
Moon Trine Asc

metoo/Pisces
Sun Sextile Mercury
Sun Conjunct Mars
Sun Square Asc
Moon Square Midheaven
Mercury Sextile Asc
Venus Sextile Asc
Mars Oppose Midheaven
Jupiter Trine Saturn
Jupiter Square Neptune
Saturn Oppose Uranus
Saturn Oppose Midheaven
Uranus Trine Sun
Uranus Conjunct Pluto
Neptune Sextile Sun
Neptune Trine Mars
Neptune Conjunct Neptune
Neptune Sextile Pluto
Pluto Trine Sun
Pluto Trine Mercury
Pluto Trine Venus
Pluto Oppose Mars
Pluto Square Asc
Asc Trine Neptune
Asc Oppose Pluto

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posted April 18, 2005 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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