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kush_arora
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posted April 14, 2005 12:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
capri is an earth sign , then why is it that the goat has a "fish-tail" ?
-a taurean

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aries-chick
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posted April 14, 2005 12:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, i also wondered about that.. This is how the legend goes..

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The Devil card of the Tarot deck may have been directly derived from the myth and pictures of the Greek god Pan who was seen as a man with goat's legs. He was miraculously transformed into a fish-goat when he was attacked by a giant flame breathing monster Typhon (Cetus.) Although Pan was born deformed with a half goat body, when he jumped into the river the upper half of his body became goat-like and the lower part changed into a fish tail in order to help him to swim from Cetus. To celebrate this event, Zeus placed his form in the sky over the stars of Capricorn. Pan's name means "all," and the refers to the productive powers of nature. In heaven he was a wind god who sent plenty of rain for abundant growth of vegetation.

http://www.aquarian-age.net/tarot/devil3.htm

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laglady
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posted April 14, 2005 07:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I don't have a source for this, but I read somewhere that The seagoat came out of the sea to show man how to live.

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astro junkie
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posted April 18, 2005 11:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dag! I've never noticed this. Maybe that's why the graphic symbol for Capricorn

looks like a big "V" (the goats horns?) with a little curly-que thing hanging off it (fish tail?)



Here's some more cool ones ... I NEVER KNEW THIS!! *(smacking forehead)*





AND ...

Here's some lore on it -

http://members.iinet.net.au/~stargaze/capricorn.htm

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astro junkie
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posted April 18, 2005 11:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if Aquarius was later put "IN BETWEEN" Capricorn and Pisces as a transition was needed, in the same way that Libra is said to have been inserted between Virgo (the Virgin) and Scorpio (sexual knowledge) ...

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted April 18, 2005 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AJ, that is really interesting!

Can you tell us anymore about this inbetween thing?
Is Gemini another one of these bridge-the-gap signs? Is it an Air sign thing?

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doublevenus
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posted April 18, 2005 03:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neat pictures of sea goats

I also learned recently, which I never knew, that the in the constellation of Virgo, SHE HAS WINGS She is like an angel, come down to earth

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted April 18, 2005 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And we are. Angels, that is.

Ok maybe not me.

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doublevenus
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posted April 18, 2005 04:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure you are an angel too, Mutable Night Force.

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astro junkie
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posted April 20, 2005 09:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup - that's true too about Virgo ... something else I never truly realized ...





All you Virgo's GOTTA read this article I found - REALLY interesting excerpts :::

"...But the outward lack of feeling may, in some individuals born under this sign, conceal too much emotion, to which they are afraid of giving way because they do not trust others, nor do they have confidence in themselves and their judgments. This is because they are conscious of certain shortcomings in themselves of worldliness, of practicality, of sophistication and of outgoingness. So they bring the art of self concealment to a high pitch, hiding their apprehensiveness about themselves and their often considerable sympathy with other people under a mantle of matter-of-factness and undemonstrative, quiet reserve. They are still waters that run deep. Yet in their unassuming, outwardly cheerful and agreeable fashion, they can be sensible, discreet, well spoken, wise and witty, with a good understanding of other people's problems which they can tackle with a practicality not always evident in their own personal relationships..."

"...Virgo is the second-largest constellation in the sky. It is depicted as an angel with wings, holding an ear of wheat..."

"...He sent down Pandora, the first woman. Ancient Greeks believed that women were the source of all evil and discomfort. The symbolic representation of women's corruption of humanity is Pandora's Box, which was filled with all the demons which torture humanity, from Greed to Spite. After Pandora unleashed these demons, the remaining immortals on earth quickly departed for Olympus. The last one to leave was Astraea, the daughter of Zeus and Themis. She was also the sister of Pudicitia, or Modesty. Astraea was the goddess of virtue. Although she went to the heavens, she still hopes to return to earth, and she watches from the sky every night to see when earth will be ready for her to return..."

www.crystalinks.com/virgo.html


Some more lore ...

www.ufrsd.net/staffwww/stefanl/myths/virgo.htm

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astro junkie
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posted April 20, 2005 09:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe the curve on the right side of the glyph is the wing tucked under?


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astro junkie
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posted April 20, 2005 09:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Mutable Night Force -

I'm not sure if Aquarius was later put in between Capricorn & Pisces. Just a question I'm putting out there, but I'll look and see what I can find. I know the thing about Libra being put between Virgo & Scorpio is true, but I'm not sure about Gemini. I understand the Zodiac evolution of having Gemini there, just not sure if it was put "in between" at a later time. I'll look into that too.

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posted April 20, 2005 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!
Although I don't understand how something can just be slipped in to make things more convenient. I mean, if it wasn't there, then no one would be a Libra, which is just ridiculous!

Oh, and crudely enough, I think the loop in the Virgo symbol is meant to represent a women's sexual organs.
Although thinking that it's a wing is nicer

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astro junkie
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posted April 20, 2005 12:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Mutable Night Force -

I don't think it's a matter of "slipping" something in, or "convenience". Has more to do with discovery & synchronization.

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doublevenus
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posted April 20, 2005 10:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astro junkie,

thanks for the virgo pictures and links

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astro junkie
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posted April 23, 2005 12:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
doublevenus -

You are very welcome ... thanks for thanking me ...

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