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calliope
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posted April 24, 2005 07:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any tips on how to do the above greatly appreciated. A Scorpio guy and I are gradually getting to know each other, as friends, on the surface of it we have a lot in common, although very different approaches. I generally like his work but there is one aspect of it that he raised in conversation recently that I absolutely do not agree with - question of approach, in case you're wondering.
I've ummed and aahed and tried to be supportive but, being the Aries that I am, don't think I can hold my (very strong)opinions in much longer. In fact, I am not sure he respects umming and aahing, and I don't want to be so self-aware that I feel I'm treading on eggshells the whole time.

Given that Scorpios respect integrity, is it not so much a question of what's said, but the way it's said? I know that I could phrase it in such a way as to redirect the attention elsewhere and hopefully defuse the situation. Then again, for Scorpios, their work is highly personal. Some of them claim they can take criticism, but is that actually true? I think he is possibly more sensitive than I am when it comes to criticism.

I feel I MUST be more honest about my likes and dislikes, although it will be potentially mutually challenging. I know the risks involved, whether this lunar eclipse is heightening emotions etc. at the moment, I really don't know. In theory, it could be make-or-break time. I could risk eternal silence and his hating me forever for what I am, yet again, it could go the other way and we could progress to a more honest friendship. And before you ask, yeah, I do "like" him. A lot.

I'm reminded of an earlier post of Heart-Shaped Cross's; "Just be yourself. Then at least you have a chance. But if you can't do that, leave him the **** alone!"

I don't want to sound too cynical abut this, but I've had Scorpio and Scorpio Venus friends and all have "disappeared" on me after a while for unfathomable reasons. Well, actually, no, it was a question of mutual values, they seemed to think the slightest academic disagreement was a personal slight. Then again, they hated it when I agreed too much with them! V. difficult. Although the friendships were "fun" while they lasted.

Anyway, I shall make it absolutely clear that I will not lie to him, and precisely what my values are. I am pretty strong and straightforward, and I don't know whether he can handle that from a woman, apparently Scorpio men don't like their women to be stronger than they are - mind you, this is the problem I have with ALL men. I think he's probably the first guy I've ever met who can stand up to me in a competitive sense - I love competition, I think it's a necessary part of life, and I love competing with him, as if we were daring each other to do better, it turns me on. (Have I met my match, I wonder?)
I do accept him as he is, even if I don't agree with everything he does. I am not looking to change him at all. But is he likely to accept me as I am?

Calliope

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Marlene
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posted April 24, 2005 07:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be fair,patient and honest in everything you do (even in competition)

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Azalaksh
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posted April 24, 2005 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Calliope ~
I think this is the perfect thing to say!
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I do accept him as he is, even if I don't agree with everything he does. I am not looking to change him at all.

You seem very evolved and have thought the whole issue through, go with your heart.
Good luck!
'zala (Merc in Scorp)

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calliope
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posted April 24, 2005 07:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wise words - thank you!! Patience, yes - I'm always being reminded of that Fairness - yes, he is always pretty fair. so there is no reason not to be in return. Honesty - absolutely necessary. I feel our friendship is moving somehow. I'd like to think it was in a positive direction.

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ScotScorp
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posted April 24, 2005 09:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto and Ditto from the other two...

I would definately tell him how you feel. As long as you don't accuse, insult or belittle him his work, ideas, actions... he should take it fine and respect you more for telling him.

I have so many Arians in my family and friends that I can't keep track of the numbers! I get along fabulously with all of them. When it comes to conflict though, the one word that comes to mind is COMPROMISE!!!

I don't blame you for avoiding a Mars/Mars+Pluto war! Good luck!

Angela

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Scorpio/Leo/Leo

"All things are bound together. All things connect." Chief Seattle

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted April 24, 2005 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with 'zala, it sounds like you have a good handle on the situation.

Just be sure to relax before you speak, take the time to express yourself clearly, and stress the fact that it is not a question of whether or not the work is good, but, that it is really a matter of personal taste regarding the approach. You may have to fight for your ideas, so be absolutely clear on why your feel your approach is likely to be more effective, or why you feel so strongly that the work should reflect, or, at least, not totally contradict, your tastes. It is, after all, a team effort, and he should be able to understand you wanting to be true to any part you play. Dont be overly concerned with logic either, but be open about your emotional investment - he'll get that.

peace,
hsc

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calliope
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posted April 26, 2005 03:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the advice!!!

I'll try and put it into action - explain to him, maybe, that I tend to be conservative and was a bit shocked. Hopefully it won't be too disastrous.

Calliope

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