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scorpiongal
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posted May 02, 2005 07:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To all the Ladies here

Imagine you are planing to get married( I am saying marriage which is like long term and not some stupid fling) what would be the most important thing you would like that your men possess.I want practical and honest answers.

Lovely said in another post What does woman want? : Money

So I was wondering how many others would agree here.

What a man...What a man.. Money good man...

To Gents here

Imagine you are geting married or planing to have relationship with a woman what do you think woman wants at that time.What did you do to get your girl.

GAL

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neptune's mermaid
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posted May 02, 2005 07:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me, ambition is more important than money. As long as what he’s doing makes him happy…and hopefully makes a change in the world…I’m happy.

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proxieme
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posted May 02, 2005 09:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A good heart.
(I certainly didn't wed a millionaire.)

Besides, there's the old saying:
If you marry for money you'll earn every penny of it.

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geminstone
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posted May 02, 2005 09:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... all those wonderful gifts that money cannot ever hope to taint. I, definitly, choose love over money

~ geminstone

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scorpiongal
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posted May 02, 2005 10:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neptune mermaid: I think we see eye to eye.I also think ambition is important but I had big discussion with my brother Sun:Cap over this and he thinks lots of woman to be going for money.

I tried to explain him that normally woman don't so I really want to know do guys also think that money is important to girls.

GAL

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maya-v
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posted May 02, 2005 10:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Passion ... honesty, yes ambition, but only to fullfil what he is so passionate abt.

Focus, that ever so rare commodity would be great too, and I hope I can help him with that!

Has to love family, older people, kids, stories, good food and lots of laughs.

Of course, has to be sensitive, loving and caring, but if not, I can teach him how to!

Money, success and fame would be by-products of our joint pursuit of what we are passionate abt! And even if it doesnt end all in glitter, just sharing the journey with such a man would be worthwhile!

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BlueTopaz124
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posted May 02, 2005 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A man who is ambitious and goes after what he wants (including me). He has to have that drive in every area of his life. First. Everything else will follow. We also have to have that connection and similar goals in life, and similar ways we live our lives, for example we both see eye to eye about our health, diet and exercise and live our lives in a similar way.

I tend to be drawn towards successful men anyways, always have. As a Sagittarius woman, I don't respect yes-men. I have to look up to a man in a way that says I respect who you are and what you do. Since I am strong, I have more of a tendency to respect and look for men who work hard for what they have and know what they want. He has to also be able to stand up to me AND also respect who I am. He has to respect what I have to say as an equal - it's important that people think for themselves, be original & innovative in their thinking, come up with their own ideas instead of following along.

While I love children - I am at a point in my life that starting a family isn't paramount. My son is out on his own now, so if a man has younger children or, that's okay, but not all-encompassingly important.

Sagittarius Sun
Sagittarius Ascendant
Aquarius Moon
Sagittarius Mars
Libra Venus
Scorpio Mercury

kisses
Laura


great topics sg!!

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cancerrg
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posted May 02, 2005 11:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my feeling is honesty in relation is the first thing if the woman is serious about the relation , then comes stability , they might not be searching for a arab sultan but someone who can provide stability . but these two things are in the case of mature woman not in puppy love and i think cancer cap,taurus and may be aries woman are very practiacl in these things . especially cap -she wont go for a unstable man , no chance .
ooooohh, i miseed out on sensitiveness.
but i dont agree with the ambition thing , i believe its in the case of women who themselves are ambitious which is not so in the majority case and regardless of sun signs , one thing is common with them is they want to make homes and raise children( am i sounding anti feminist) i like ambitous a nd intelligent woman , some one who can stand with me , they are quite ok if the man can provide a stable life .

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scorpiongal
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posted May 02, 2005 11:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue Topaz : Thanks

Which men would you go for?

1. A person who is ambitious and capable to turn his dream into reality but presently
doesn't have anything to call his own.

2. A person who is stable financially but well not so ambitious and afraid of taking risk.

I am not sure but just think ????
I think this answer would greatly depend who you are and how you see the world.


GAL

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Aphrodite
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posted May 02, 2005 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"what would be the most important thing you would like that your men possess"

That he possesses clarity and insight into knowing what we are able to reasonably expect to live up to for each other.

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Mama Mia
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posted May 02, 2005 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First and formost a man that is GOD fearing and loves the lord: He does not have to be a saint cause lord knows that I am not, an over all good person, that I am...


Then he has to have a good heart...
He has to be ambitous...
He needs to have a good relationship with... his mother if she is alive.
He MUST like kids...
I hope that he is a patient type guy.
Would like for him to be handy...
He has to have great teeth (white)
a good kisser ect ect...

Oh Good sense of humor..

I do not think that is much...

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Mama Mia
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posted May 02, 2005 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First and formost a man that is GOD fearing and loves the lord: He does not have to be a saint cause lord knows that I am not, an over all good person, that I am...


Then he has to have a good heart...
He has to be ambitous...
He needs to have a good relationship with... his mother if she is alive.
He MUST like kids...
I hope that he is a patient type guy.
Would like for him to be handy...
He has to have great teeth (white)
a good kisser ect ect...

Oh Good sense of humor..

I do not think that is much...

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Isis
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posted May 02, 2005 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While money should never be a singular motivator in choosing a mate, viewing a man's earning ability IMO is no different than a man preferring a pretty woman. The point on both is: who wouldn't? (prefer a beautiful woman or a financially comfortable man).

To clarify before I'm vilified for being shallow to admit it, neither someone's appearance nor their wallet should ever be the primary motivator in whether or not you date someone. But I do think it's natural to take them into account.

I think a man who will only date beautiful women, or a woman who will only date rich men, are setting themselves up for extreme disappointment or, at the very least, a life of feeling unsatisfied.

Just like many women think all men want us to look like Calista Flockhart, many men think women just want money. Both are setting themselves up for failure IMHO.

What I look for in a man is someone who is financially responsible and plans/has planned for his future, someone who has the heart of an artist, but is practical in nature. Intelligent. Not arrogant but not so humble that he doesn't know his own worth. He knows his own mind and his feelings, and can communicate them in a mature manner when necessary. Doesn't play games (unless it's videogames, boardgames, or golf ), is adventurous but not reckless, openminded, is somewhat outgoing, is tender and understanding, but not afraid to stand up to me if I act like an ass, and is reliable, honest and trustworthy.

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Secret Garden
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posted May 02, 2005 08:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TOTALLY agree with Isis on this one.

I used to belong to the love can conquer all camp, that i would 'prefer love to money any day', before I got what I thot a caring but yet unestablished husband. True enough, he did care about me, loved me even perhaps, but I later discovered....that he wanted a green card/visa from me, plus I was sending him money every month, because he didn't even make enough to support his own chain smoking habits. I paid not only his tab but that of his brother, his sisters unreasonable demands (she wants Jadore when her family is having to sell their property???? WTH), his father whos business is failing, and his b!tch of a mother who helped catalyze the crumbling of the marriage.

Ever since then, I agree wholeheartedly that I am only going to allow myself to be with men one step above me. I am pretty high up there on the financial comfort status, but hey i worked my a$$ off for it. If a man can do the same, why can't we share our ambitions, our motivations, and our hard work? I dont want a lazy @$$ to leech off of me like my first husband.

I think for men, they know that theyre expected to show something concrete. In evolutionary terms its always been the strong, established, protective male, and the pretty female who are the 'fittest' of the population. Like what Isis said.

I dont buy the entire theory. For me, mental compatiblity is a MUST.

But there is never going to be any mental compatibility between me and a man who will never be motivated to outshine me financially/socially, or one who is not at least as ambitious as I am.

Love
SG

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Azalaksh
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posted May 02, 2005 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maya's said it just right. All I would say is:
Love - for himself, for others, for what he does, for how he expresses himself.
'zala

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libra78
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posted May 03, 2005 02:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpiongal: My sis' (Aqua) was sorta seeing this cap (who kept saying she 'needed' to have a rich man so that she could maintain her lifestyle). Well the Aquarian didnt take that well- at all! Shes not like that IMO.

Anyways IMO women want to feel special.

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scorpiongal
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posted May 03, 2005 04:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra78 : So do you think the problem is more with Capricorns head...huh

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cancerrg
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posted May 03, 2005 04:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
_____________________________________________Which men would you go for?

1. A person who is ambitious and capable to turn his dream into reality but presently
doesn't have anything to call his own.

2. A person who is stable financially but well not so ambitious and afraid of taking risk.

I am not sure but just think ????
I think this answer would greatly depend who you are and how you see the world.
_____________________________________________

definitely the first one!

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cancerrg
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posted May 03, 2005 05:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
_____________________________________________To clarify before I'm vilified for being shallow to admit it, neither someone's appearance nor their wallet should ever be the primary motivator in whether or not you date someone. But I do think it's natural to take them into account.
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how many of us do really have trhe guts or inclination to say no to a beautiful woman or a rich man . well i 'll accept , i have seen some woman who refused a rich man but even they went for guys who were good looking but with a doomed future , strange it may sound but the woman too knew they that the guy had a doomed future . and i have never seen a guy refusing a really beautiful woman .

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cancerrg
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posted May 03, 2005 05:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
_____________________________________________I think for men, they know that theyre expected to show something concrete
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sg- tell u wat its real hell lot of pressure and atleast in our societies . infact this something that iam facing today. the pressure to show something concrete . imagine it when u have to loose someone just because of this , someone u that u wanted to share ur life with .

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lovely*
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posted May 03, 2005 11:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi~ good mornings to all!

just wanted to pop in to say...


money is the end result of hard work, vision, integrity~ at least in my husband's case.

when i met dear hubs he had tons of debt from a previous marriage, old school loans etc., but also tons of potential. i fell in love with him and admired his character for a thousand reasons~ not because he was rich (because he wasn't :laughing

one reason being is that he put himself through college to earn 2 bachelors and law school to earn his JD. not easy~ the other reason is because he always puts others before himself.

Anyway, I hope I'm not perceived as some money grubbing twit, I love my husband before money. But money is what I want so we can have freedom to enjoy our lives

PS. my husband and I have a stellium in the 2nd house of our composite.

cheers everyone! I go in for my first ultra sound today to see my cappy-nut


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Mama Mia
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posted May 03, 2005 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Lovely there is nothing wrong with that at all. Money is not an overall factor with me but he has to come with something, not just some lazy bum waiting on a women to take care of him.

Also I can meet a man with all the money in the world and this is the honest to God truth if there is no chemistry or attraction between us its a done deal can't do it...

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted May 03, 2005 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok- overall for me, love would always win over money!
Like they say in 'Chicago'- "All I care about is loov veeee!"

Ok, in a man, perversely enough and against stuff most other people have said I'd say-

*He can't be too nuts on the idea of kids/family, because I sure as hell ain't! (So why oh why do I have to have a crush on a Cancer boy??)

*He'd have to love me! Ok, pretty impossible but I can always hope!


Simple as... I think....

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beebuddy
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posted May 03, 2005 03:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
""(So why oh why do I have to have a crush on a Cancer boy??)""

Cause we are the best.

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted May 03, 2005 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehehe.... yeah.

Well, at the moment, my flighty Aries Moon says yeah.... but tommorow it could be anything

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