posted May 05, 2005 12:16 AM            

This extends to all aspects of my life. I never meet anyone unless I hit on them first, they'll stare but never ever come up to me. In my family I always have to call them first, friends too. Anything done around the house, I have to do it myself or ask roommates, they never do it themselves.

posted May 05, 2005 02:42 AM            

Yes. I completely second everything you said BlueRoamer. Plus, I'm a Virgo so anyone doing something which I could do better is just plain irritating- like, "You're doing it wrong!"

posted May 05, 2005 02:31 PM            

My roomate got a dog (we don't have a yard) and he leaves for work earlier than I do. Basically, all morning I can't sleep or even get ready for work without fixing my schedule around the stupid dog. My roomate has plenty of options like taking the dog to his dads to run around in the huge yard with the other dogs, yet he doesn't want him to "sit out int he rain all day,"

BTW< he didn't even take the dog out ot pee this morning!!

So, of course, I have to make arrangments for the dog or he'll be caged for hours on end!!! ARRRGGGGG!! It's turned into being MY responsibility even though it isn't even my freakin dog. I have to do all of this before I go to work today, I can't even sleep in and I don't get off until 11 pm. It's so damn irritating!!

I got into a huge fight with the guy today because on top of the dog BS, I got a letter in the mail from the video rental saying they're charging my bank account for movies that he rented on my account and never returned!! I got the first letter and he went off to return them weeks ago>>>hmmmm......Then he said he'd drop off my taxes to his mom (she's an accountant) and this was...um...BEFORE they were due two weeks ago. I found them in the glovebox today!!!

posted May 05, 2005 06:47 PM              

Finally somebody who understands my frustration... I feel This also extends to relationships w/ the opposite sex.
Ex. I had to make the first move w/ this one guy (I knew he liked me too) who kept going around in circles :rollseyes: and he f!cked things up so I didn't talk to him for a week. So he tells everybody to tell me that he's not gonna say sorry till I talk to him.

It's like "hello, you're the guy, YOU screwed up, why do I ALWAYS have to make the first move?!"

posted May 05, 2005 07:08 PM              

gosh zoso i feel soooooooo horrible for u! what a horrible horrible roommate! i wish i could give u a big ol hug! and TAXES omg i cant believe he flaked on those (my second house stellium SHUDDERS with anxiety). stay sane, we lub u!

posted May 06, 2005 11:10 PM              

I think that most of us Cap ascendants appear stand-offish to others, Cool and aloof.

I also think that we have a fairly difficult childhood with lots of rejection issues. Fortunantely we age very well, in fact we usually look much younger than our actual age. We also don't tend to wrinkle, so our shin stays young looking.

How many of you have smaller ears, laid close to your head?

Its been said that while we are beautiful in the sense of what is considered beautiful or handsome, we do have a strking appearence, and tend to attract others interest.

Some thoughts

posted May 06, 2005 11:51 PM            

"The true men of old, they had no mind to fight Tao.
They did not seek, by their own contriving, to help Tao along."
- Chuang Tzu

"I find that nothing gets left undone unless I leave it undone myself."
- Heart-Shaped Cross (Cappy Ascendant)

posted May 07, 2005 12:08 AM            

Lanny, I like that description!

posted May 07, 2005 12:39 AM              

I never hit on people first. Dont make the first move with people I'm interested in. If theyre interested too then they'll let me know. If not, someone else will be. I dont chase after guys, not my style. I'd rather just let them come to me. If they dont, I dont want them. That could be the Taurus/Venus influence.

Yes, I'm the oldest child. Stand-offish, aloof, cool? Yes. Small ears, laid close to the head? Yes. Everything you said was right on Lanny.

posted May 07, 2005 07:41 PM            

My 1st house moon seems to mask a lot of the Cappy rising characteristics. I'm the youngest of two children, by 6yrs. I tend to mother, rather than father, everyone in my life. Of course, the insecurity is magnified (Venus in Retrograde doesn't help, and Saturn in Virgo hates me - lol!).

In person, I'm often cool, composed, aloof, and relatively sane. (Strangely, when I get on-line, I can't seem to shut up.)

I'm lazy and absolutely terrified of responsibility, but I think thats the Sun/Venus/MC/Uranus Conjunction. Its making a square to Jupiter (and those fixed squares are a b!tch).

I've got rejection issues up the wazoo. Never approached a girl in my life. When they take an interest in me, as if to subvert an eventual rejection, I'll just reveal all my inadequacies at once. If that doesnt turn them off, I figure I've got a keeper.

posted May 09, 2005 06:37 PM              

I feel like I do EVERYTHING for my partner. The thing is, I know that is not REALLY true, but it REALLY feels that way!

Especially on the house work end of things. My partner is a gemini. He says when he was single, he kept his apartment neat (and I know this to be true. In his last relationship his partner was lazy, so he said he felt really good about picking up her slack. He CLAIMS that since I am so cardinal, that our chemistry just makes it this way. He said that if I didnt do anything, he would eventually start working on it. So I let the laundry pile up and up and up.... HE never got to it! We have a baby so I had to finally get the laundry done.

THEN when I say something to him, He gets upset and says that I am bitching. I am pretty sensitive. I do not feel I am bitching, but simply demanding equality. Trust me, him helping out with housework is definetely in order!

He puts me in the position he hates. If he would just help out (he has already agreed that he doesnt do his share and that he should do more) then I wouldnt have any complaints. But when I mention it, he goes off.

posted May 11, 2005 06:42 PM              

I hate having to hand over responsibility to others and I am something of a perfectionist. Seeing things done sloppy makes me shudder. My hubby laughs when I follow the rules spot on and calls me Miss Pedantic!

Yes, I have the small ears too.

posted May 11, 2005 06:54 PM              

Hecate! Touchstone!
I too am the oldest in a family of 10 siblings and some fosters, so eldest over
13 in all!

posted May 12, 2005 12:47 AM              

Thanks for the advice

I have actually used that! I realized that by not doing the laundry I end up suffering because I dont have any clean clothes to wear.

When I do just my clothes, he seems to not really notice.

I guess this is just the Saturn Lesson.

posted May 14, 2005 11:48 AM              

Using pure psychology-speak, they say that if you feel you always have to be the one to do things in order for them to be done "right", that the issue has more to do with YOU than the people not doing it "right". I think all people who have strong "service" influences in their Chart can relate to this. I've got Venus & Pluto Conjunct in Virgo in the 4th House of home, so, yeah. And plus, I've got a Scorpio Stellium in the 6th House, a Moon in Cancer, Pisces in Chiron in the 10th, and a Jupiter & Saturn in Capricorn.

The problem is not that you see how things can be done in the best way - the problem is that you are never satisfied when someone is attempting to help you. That's the main issue, isn't it? That you really want help, or else it wouldn't be an issue to begin with.

You must compromise. Accept the help, and be willing to accept them with imperfections once you've demonstrated how you think it should be done. If not, others will resent you and totally give up on trying to help you at all.

Lemingtyne -

posted May 14, 2005 01:04 PM              

I did have a big problem accepting others work and not redoing some of it myself. I had to get over that one tho, or work 80 hours a week.

posted May 18, 2005 03:02 AM              

My ascendant is square the Sun, Jupiter and Saturn which are in Libra in the 9th House along with Pluto and Mercury.
It is also trine Chiron which is conjunct the Moon in Taurus in the 4th House.
Libra and Taurus are both rather lazy signs, aren't they?

My Cap ascendant is also
trine Pallas
sesquisquare Mars
semisquare Uranus
quincunx P. Fort
(but I don't know what all that means yet)

posted May 19, 2005 12:22 AM              

however. i work for a construction firm, very male-dominated environment. and as an "office girl" i'm def. beginning to resent being the amount of stuff that gets dumped on my plate. altho my cappy venus says my inner goddess simply REVELS in hard work, i also enjoy efficiency. and where there's no give&take, there tends to be a lot of wasted effort. and there's nothing i hate more than knowing i could make better use of my time.