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sue g
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posted May 16, 2005 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know what the following placements in a chart would indicate. This is my only sister, who is 6 years older, she has:

Sun in Leo 8th 8 deg
Moon Scorpio 11th 26 "
Asc Capricorn 4
Mars Scorpio 11th 15
Mercury Leo 8th 26
Venus Leo 8th 18
Jupiter Taurus 5th 18
Saturn Libra 10th 10
Uranus Cancer 7th 15
Neptune Libra 10th 19
Pluto Leo 8th 20
MC Scorp 10

Her DOB is 31 July 1952 and she ws born at 7pm in Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England.
If more info is needed, I can post it. Thanks and love, Sue xx
ps Would be grateful for any insights, Ive known her for 46 years and still feel mystified by her behaviour at times!!!!

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sue g
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posted May 17, 2005 03:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone???? xxx

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted May 17, 2005 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey there, I have some quite similar placements to your sister! (Hope that doesn't mean you hold anything against me).

I, like her, also have my sun in 8th house and a Capricorn Ascendant and Venus in Leo. Someone very close to me has a Scorpio Moon and I also know a Leo with Cap Ascendant and a water Moon... so fire away! What sort of thing do you need to know?

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sue g
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posted May 18, 2005 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course I dont hold anything against you Mutuable- how old are you by they way? Well my sister seems very jealous of others and she isnt very caring or warm either - especially to our elderly parents. She is also very materialistic, possessions and money are v.important to her. I feel disloyal saying these things, but she is now coming up for 53 and still seems to be very immature, slagging people and stuff, you know like teens may do. I am trying to get an understanding of her. She is also very negative, I dont know whether this is the moon in scorp or cappy rising..........could be both. I just cringe at times when she says "its fun being mean to others", yes a 53 year old mother of two acting like this, worrying isnt it and she gets a kick out of it - self loathing comes to mind? Any enlightenment would be very much appreciated?? xxx

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Azalaksh
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posted May 18, 2005 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya LoveLady ~
At the risk of having to write myself a ticket for violation of The World Is Gray ruling, I will still venture to say that your sis is not a typical Leonine personality. There is a bitterness I sense that does not come from astrological placements, it feels past-life-ish, or perhaps something traumatic (at least to her) that happened in this one. Your dad's an Aries, perhaps she felt overshadowed by his Fire energy....
There appears to be a self-esteem issue at work here (as in, lack of) -- generally those who slag off others do it to gain a sense of superiority because they feel a deficiency in themselves....
Sending love and light in dealing with her,
{{hugs}}
'zala

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pixelpixie
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posted May 18, 2005 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*taps end of pencil on little pink and yellow slips here, raises eyebrows....

No, no harm done.

I've got my eyes on you.....

*only because you're neat and sparkly.

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Azalaksh
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posted May 18, 2005 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sherriff Pixie, please go easy on me....I should have known better than to try to get away with this........
Justice must prevail. But before it does, I have this really nice diamond tennis bracelet here in my glove compartment, maybe we could talk about you putting away the pencil and yellow slips........???
'Z

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pixelpixie
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posted May 18, 2005 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why, imagine that!
Trying to buy the affection of an officer of the ..well.... something
*catches glint of shiny sparklies in corner of her eye*
ohhh... um.. yes, where was I.. ah yes.. what do you think I am, someone who can be swayed with smooth words and sparkly items of luxury?
*salivates madly while the glitters seemingly reach out to her*
and further..... um.. I was already putting the slips away,but this makes me want to ah, what the hell.....*zoink*
*has to hold them in her hand.

Any more pretty rules to break around here?

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maya-v
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posted May 18, 2005 03:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

With green sparkly to go with your eyes ...
or uniform ...
or something!

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pixelpixie
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posted May 18, 2005 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
UNIFORM!!!!
That is what I was missing!!!

I knew I felt a draft.. that's why.

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maya-v
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posted May 18, 2005 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Azalaksh
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posted May 18, 2005 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Sorry about hijacking your thread sooz, but you know how irresistible it can be sometimes.....
Ahem.
Back to issues with older sisters.....
Madame Z

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astro junkie
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posted June 01, 2005 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I disagree with you original statement Azalaksh. Her sister has 8 Placements in Fixed Signs, out of 12. Six of them are in "Fixed Houses". There may be a comfort zone there.

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... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness

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sue g
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posted June 01, 2005 01:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi AJ, thanks for your words, I was told before that she had a very difficult chart, and yeah she is a very difficult woman, and I feel, this is reflected in the chart, would you be able to add more...............please, if youre able? love and thanks sue xxxx

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted June 01, 2005 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey sorry I've been a while replying...
Sue, in reference to what you put back to my post-

I'm the grand old age of 14, although I think most people on here used to think I was 40! Haha.... Oh well.....
Your sister- "its fun being mean to others" hmmm well that sounds like the kind of flippant comment I would make but I don't seriously get a kick out of it! I would feel very guilty and I don't particularly enjoy being mean to elderly people even if some scare the bejesus out of me.
As for the rest, I can be very jealous, dog in the manger, but I'd like to think I'm caring and warm... I have an Aries Moon, so although I'm selfish I like making other people happy too er but ironically enough, not in the Virgo 'serving' way. I'm not incredibly materialistic... but things I do own I like to keep and of course I like nice stuff like any other human would. Oh, and LOL being the mature person I am, of course I never slag people off!! Well, very rarely... only if it's someone I particularly hate... which is rare because I don't like having enemies..

So I would probably guess it's more of the Leo in her... definately Venus in Leo... it makes you apreciate Luxury things expensive culture... Asc Capricorn... could explain the childish behaiviour later in life! Oh and Moon Scorpios can be known for an evil sense of humour!
Does this sound bout right?

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sue g
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posted June 01, 2005 02:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are 14, God love us, you are something else girl for your age and could teach my 53 year old sister something - yeah a lot of what you said was dead on, she isnt actually a very nice person. I know you cant blame astrology on everything, but it can be very telling cant it? Thanks for your comments, very appreciated - you is gonna be one heck of a wise woman MNF did you know that??? xxxxxx

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted June 01, 2005 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, thanks Sue!
Probably considering my Capricorn Ascendant, I'll be one heck of a wise young woman, then turn crazy when I'm older! Yeah, you've gotta love astrology- it's gotten me through the wilderness years! Haha... that was random, maybe I'm thinking of Adrien Mole there!

Oh btw, I do know how to spell 'appreciated', the last post was a typo error (duh ) I just couldn't find the effort to change it hehe.

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astro junkie
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posted June 04, 2005 10:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sue g -

Do people give any clues as to why they think she is "difficult"? Many of us are perceived that way simply for marching to a different beat. Difficult how? She burps at the table?


The Mutable Night Force -

Heck! I must not have paid enough attention ... you're 14? That is amazing, you do come across as much wiser. I've got Jupiter AND Saturn in Capricorn, so I've gotten a taste of the slow race. Keep on truckin!


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posted June 04, 2005 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey AJ!
Nice picture!

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sue g
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posted June 04, 2005 03:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Difficult AJ as in arrogant, cold, insensitive, spiteful, cruel and untrustworthy,like her and her hubbie screwing my 78 father out of money and stuff like that, and years ago when I got engaged, after all the preparation she went and did her engagement the week before mine, just to be spiteful, oh and when her first son was born, I was told I couldnt go to see him cos there was not room in her house for me to stay, she slags me behind my back to my parents and then is nice to my face.......shall I go on?? And no its nothing to do with burbing at the table, its far more serious than that, unfortunately

p.s. she told me a few times 'you are too nice"

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sue g
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posted June 05, 2005 05:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another thing she did a while back - I saw a friend of hers a very nice woman, and she said to me "I really dont understand your sister" and then went on to tell me that after having gone thro a very difficult birth my sis visited her in hospital. She walked into the room with a skirt up to her a*** and flaunting herself all over the place. No sensitivity, no awareness and downright mean - and that was one of her best friends, may God help her enemies - she admits to enjoy being mean to people!

I have distanced myself from her, especially as she admitted to me that she was repulsed by our Dad cos he had a breakdown when we were younger (i was 17, she 23). She said she couldnt stand weak men. I replied that it had had the opposite affect on me and that I had become more compassionate with others and even gone on to train as a healer. But then again guys I am too nice arent I! Love to all xxx

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astro junkie
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posted June 06, 2005 12:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sue g -

OK - I get a better picture of this now. I think I just needed to hear some real life examples.

Sun in Leo 8th 8 deg
Moon Scorpio 11th 26 "
Asc Capricorn 4
Mars Scorpio 11th 15
Mercury Leo 8th 26
Venus Leo 8th 18
Jupiter Taurus 5th 18
Saturn Libra 10th 10
Uranus Cancer 7th 15
Neptune Libra 10th 19
Pluto Leo 8th 20
MC Scorp 10

She's got 7 Planets in Fixed SIGNS, PLUS her MC. Most of them are either in Leo or Scorpio. (ever see a Leo & Scorpio in a relationship?)

Six of those Planets are in Fixed HOUSES, PLUS all her Leo Planets are in the House which Rules Scorpio (8th)!!

The remaining 3 Planets are all Cardinal, PLUS, her Ascendant in Capricorn. Those 3 are ALL in "Cardinal" Houses, and so is her Asc.

She's got no Mutables, so rather than bend, she'll break ... and rather than break, she'd rather break YOU. I mean HER break? Why do I want to say her hubbie, or a significant partner in her past, is/was a Sagittarius?

I'll tell you why, because I see only one "lighthearted" Sign/House combination. Her Jupiter in Taurus in her 5th is probably the most positive influence here. Jupiter Rules Sagittarius, and her other placements make me think she'd get along with them.

However - if she had a good Sag in her life, they probably broke her heart (or attempted to) because few Sag's will put up with lying.

She is someone who really doesn't need anyone - what she needs is the adoration, and THAT'S IT! Another's needs is very much secondary.

Her good points would be that she'd make a very good "department head" or leader or maverick. But she would most definately be a force to be reckoned with if you get on her bad side. I hope you don't think she's going to change much. She may need to learn more lessons in humility, and this will help, but she really won't change.

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sue g
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posted June 06, 2005 01:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a million AJ, I know she wont change, but what I do realise (have done for a long time), is that I have to stay out of her way. She is not a very nice person and I dont want to be in her space. You really helped with the reading, thanks again, love to you Sue xxxxx

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