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neptune's mermaid
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posted May 21, 2005 08:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I paranoid or does there seem to be “cool” signs and “dull” signs? I often feel Pisces is a sign certain people feel sorry for pessimistic, masochistic, martyr, self sacrificing.
“Oh let me lay down so you can walk all over me”

While other signs ( I wont mention any names ) have next to no flaws - and to be honest…their flaws are on the same level as the “dull” signs pros.

YES I am a fish but don’t start showering me with pity yet

I dunno, I just read a description of Pisces and I got ******. It hit a nerve.

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neptune's mermaid
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posted May 21, 2005 08:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Had to spilt the post

It’s always like - Oh you live a very hard life giving everything away, and you’re always miserable because you listen to everyone’s problems. You’re a complete pushover and a door mat BUT on the good side…many people will live happy successful lives from sucking away your energy.

Umm HELLO???
Is there any surprise why some people don’t take astrology seriously when some astrologers play a popularity game

Am I the only one who thinks this??

btw my intention is not to put down any particular sign.
Because you know I love you all lol

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Happy Dragon
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posted May 21, 2005 09:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
**Am I paranoid**
...No
**or does there seem to be “cool” signs and “dull” signs. **
.. just in astrology for the masses
**I often feel Pisces is a sign certain people feel sorry for pessimistic,
masochistic, martyr, self sacrificing.
“Oh let me lay down so you can walk all over me”**
.. what .. walk over water ? :-)))) .. what youv'e described be just 1 part
of being a water sign .. empathetic vibe sponges ..
but one other side of Pisces is said to be 'unlimited expansion
thru power' .. think 'Julius Ceaser' and 'Kamal Attaturk'
.. empire builders .. both Pisceans i think ...
i don't think either of those may have been an emmotional pushover
**any surprise why some people don’t take astrology seriously when some astrologers play a popularity game**
nope .. no suprise there !
**or am I feeling especially bitter today **
.. can relate to that ... one of them days .. huh ...
.. i get pretty worked up sometime ( in private ) about astrological
stereotyping .. and some who peddle crap to the masses .. and call
it astrology . . i call it con-artistry
.. medical practise was once in a similar position ... in the dark ages ..
.. anyone could do it ..
**I dunno, I just read a description of Pisces and I got ******. It hit a nerve.**
.. i'm going to venture .. 'good that it hit a nerve' .. 'cause it will
give you Uranian insight to the 'feeling' side of Water ( i.e yer sun)

if youv'e not seen this before .. take a look http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/A.F.L.G.html

be calm
hd

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BlueRoamer
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posted May 21, 2005 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think pisces is one of the more popular signs....because they relate well and understand all people....sometimes the last week of pisces can be a little less popular, possibly to due a mars in aries or a scorpio subruler.

Astrologers just say negative things about every sign, they dont' really play favorites that much. Ancient astrologers were just negative about water/earth signs for some reason

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DayDreamer
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posted May 21, 2005 05:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also feel some of that is going on in this board...can only take enough of the sign bashing, and popularity contests...a little overdone.

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DayDreamer
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posted May 21, 2005 05:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I was also thinking today. For some odd reason, it seems like most aspects to the planet Neptune (whether conjunctions/trines/sextiles or squares/oppostitions) always have some negative connatation or weakness to it. Why do astrologers do that? There's gotta be more to it.

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neptune's mermaid
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posted May 22, 2005 10:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for replying knowflakes,

Thanks for understanding hd, very few people are like that - and most would prefer to quickly judge and put down.

“but one other side of Pisces is said to be 'unlimited expansion
thru power'“
Very cool but I think Julius Caesar was a Cancer…not too sure though.

Az started a no stereotyping thread but it kinda died…apparently some believe astrology is all about stereotyping. I don’t like that - I feel it brings it down to the level of magazine horoscopes. There’s clearly more to it than that.

Thanks for the link, it’s quickly bringing back my faith in astrology…even though I’ve only read a few paragraphs. I haven’t read any of Liz Greene’s books - even though I know I should…but if she writes like this, then I’m definitely buying a couple of her books.
btw venture all you like lol I don’t mind.

BR, I know Pisces is a popular sign but I still don’t like the way certain astrologer fail to see the good side of one sign yet find it so easy to see the good side of another. The thread was supposed to be about all signs - but my big ego changed it making it all about meee lol blame my Aries rising.

I know what you mean DD, I think the popularity contests are to create order and keep us knowflakes in place no jk
I dunno, it’s ok if you favour signs - just don’t hate signs. It feels like high school with the zodiac you’ve got the smart kids, the popular kids, the slow kids, the domineering kids blah blah blah and you have to stick with whatever you’re branded with - there’s no free will. It’s restricting and suffocating. My Neptune has lots of aspects - I don’t like what they say about it either - it’s always negative. Same thing with the twelfth house.

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marcia
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posted May 22, 2005 02:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel the need to protect water signs. I see a water sign and I think, AWWW the poor weakling, lemme guard them LoL

In all actuality, they don't need it. The water signs in my life are very strong people. And while I think I'm protecting them, all the while, they're protecting and taking care of me. I love you damned waters!

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neptune's mermaid
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posted May 22, 2005 04:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Marcia

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Azalaksh
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posted May 22, 2005 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nurse Neptune, where is Bruce?!?

Seriously tho, perhaps it's time to resurrect my thread for the newbies. There has been a lot of thoughtless pigeonholing going on here lately, and I mean from people that I thought were evolved past that and should know better. I don't care if it's something transiting something else, WE are in control, not orbiting planetary bodies.
Astrology is just a way of recognizing potential. What you DO with that potential is up to YOU. It's not a convenient labelling system! Or at least it SHOULD not be.

And also, astrologers are human too (maybe some less than others....). Although we would like to think they are not biased, many of them probably ARE. It's natural to have likes and dislikes of other people's habits and traits. But I would expect more objectivity from professionals.

I'm bringing the thread back! Make your report, Deputy #6 -- we'll get Blue on the perps with the Thwacker! And what have you done with your hypo? Load it!

DayDreamer ~
What house is your Neptune in? I'd like to copy you a few paragraphs from Liz Greene, she's the best!

High Commissioner Zala

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Quazar
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posted May 22, 2005 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just my two cents worth:
When I first discover that someone is a Pisces, my first initial thought about that person is "creative & interesting"...
Most Pisces I've ever known have turned out to be a fascinating individuals...

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Azalaksh
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posted May 22, 2005 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to the forum, Quazar!
'zala

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neptune's mermaid
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posted May 22, 2005 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Az thanks for that. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this. I’m heading for your thread

Quazar, love your username btw, thanks for that. It’s nice to know not everyone is narrow minded about the fish and welcome

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Venus
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posted May 22, 2005 08:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All

Pisces I am - doormat I definately am not!
Pisces sensitivity - in fact sensitivity in general is a strength - not a weakness. How can you ever begin to understand someone elses problems let alone help other people without it!

Venus

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future_uncertain
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posted May 22, 2005 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get tired of reading Virgo descriptions. They all say workaholic, neat freak, asexual, health-fanatic nitpickers. Sometimes I feel surrounded by Virgos, and the only one I've seen repeatedly is the workaholic thing, but not necessarily in that form. The ones I know that aren't nutso about work are waaaaaaay into some hobby.

Personally, I think Virgos are far more interesting than most astro books will have you believe.

Then there's the Sagittarius thing. Apparently all we want to do is run and play and stick our big feet in our mouths. I'll admit, I'm pretty clumsy at times, both physically and verbally. But I have a heart and feelings too! LOL. I take things seriously. I like being in a relationship, and I don't have a problem with feeling "fenced in."

I don't get offended by these often repetitive descriptions, but it's always cool to read something a little more insightful and closer to the mark.


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DayDreamer
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posted May 22, 2005 10:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mermaid of Neptune..

quote:
I know what you mean DD, I think the popularity contests are to create order and keep us knowflakes in place

I suppose they do keep us all in check . But I don't feel I need that, I already know everything..lol..Joke!!!

Azalaksh...
That would be wonderful

This is what I have:
Neptune Conjunct Venus in 7th/Sagittarius
Neptune Square Saturn (5th/Virgo)
Neptune Square Moon (11th/Pisces)

Thanks

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Azalaksh
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posted May 23, 2005 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DayDreamer ~
Neptune in the 7th -- give me a day or two....
'zala

PS: Wanna be one of my deputies? Meander on over to The World Is Gray Not Black And White Thread and put in your application....

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Battle of Evermore
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posted May 23, 2005 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Battle of Evermore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps NM, yes, perhaps you are right.

I know Virgo is an "unpopular sign" no offense fellow Virgos! That's fine with me though. I have no problem with being a looser, or nerd in astrology, or real life. All the more easy it is to to show the world you don't give a **** what they think if they are expecting a straight lace, school marm, mother hubbard, and THIS is what they get

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DayDreamer
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posted May 23, 2005 01:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's kewl 'zala (mind if I call you that?)
Thanks for offering!!!

Well as a Debuty, do I have to work under anybody??? And what does the position of a debuty entail?

Virgo unpopular? Not in my books at least. Most of my friends from school have been Virgos...it's fate. And I have a virgo sister and a virgo brother. So as you can see they're very popular!!

Oops 'zala...does that disqualify me for a position?


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cancerrg
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posted May 23, 2005 02:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JULIUS CEASER WAS INDEED A CANCER .

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Happy Dragon
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posted May 23, 2005 09:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cancerrg
** i mentioned Pisc for JCeaser .. read it in respected astro book **
however coud not confirm as i no longer have the book..
but i copied this lot off Google ...

Ancient Rome - Julius Caesar
... His full name was Gaius Julius Caesar. He was a celebrated Roman general and
... The date of Caesar the dictator's birth has long been disputed. ... www.crystalinks.com/juliuscaesar.html - 32k - Cached - Similar pages

Tiberius Julius Caesar Augustus Biography / Profile of Tiberius ...
... Name:, Tiberius Julius Caesar Augustus. Birth Date:, 42 BC. Death Date:, 37.
Place of Birth:, Rome, Italy. Nationality:, Roman. Gender:, Male ... www.bookrags.com/biography/ tiberius-julius-caesar-augustus/ - 16k - Cached - Similar pages

Gaius Julius Caesar Biography / Profile of Gaius Julius Caesar ...
... Name:, Gaius Julius Caesar. Birth Date:, July 12, 100 BC. Death Date:,
March 15, 44 BC. Place of Birth:, Rome. Place of Death:, Rome ... www.bookrags.com/biography/gaius-julius-caesar/ - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.bookrags.com ]

SPECTRUM Biographies - Julius Caesar
... Julius Caesar was born in Rome on July 12 or 13, in the year 100 BC His father
... At the time of Caesar's birth, the number of patricians was small, ... www.incwell.com/Biographies/Caesar.html - 17k - Cached - Similar pages

.. just out of curiosity .. are you interested in Indian astrology ??
i think it may be called Vedi ......
i ask as i read an article yrs back .. pre 9/11 ..
it was a predictive article ... starting at that big sun eclipse in Leo
... it was quite an accurate prediction on world events

'later
hd

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cancerrg
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posted May 23, 2005 11:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
o well , i didn't get into so much detail but i have read this recently and there was thread about canncer as well where i saw it .

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pidaua
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posted May 23, 2005 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm....

Well, I think that you might be dwelling on the negative side of Pisces too much and let's be honest, at a minimum there are at least two sides to a Pisces (and us Archers as well) while there are 8 sides to a Gemini and 50 million sides to those zany Aquarians..LOL...(Just a tee hee for ya).

Being a Saggie and KNOWING my negative points, I just accept them. How do you think us Archer's feel not only being the clown of the zodiac, but being the one peeps like to pick on a lot like oh....let's see we are; ***** , drunks, potheads, non commital, bad spellers, flaky, superficial, braggarts, ego-centric, eccentric, unfaithful, drug addicts, ADHD...LOL...shall I go on..oh wait, we're also gamblers, blunt to the point of offending, slobs....

But, then again, being a Sag, I guess I just kind of look at that like we can't have the good without the bad and without that bad how could we ever have anything to work on and perfect?

There are horrible aspects of every sign and there are beautiful aspects of every sign.

What bothers me is that we can't seem to have an honest discussion about what may bother us in regards to a sign with out it coming to this emotional finger pointing thing.

This site encourages free speech unless it is overtly offensive. I may not like certain aspects of my polar opposite and I should be allowed to say that and they should be able to say what they find lacking in my sign.

I also concede that there are so doo doo heads here that have to really be quite crude in their assessments of other signs, basically calling them derogatory names instead of trying to effectively and intelligently stating their disagreements.

Instead of having to have threads like "let's not stereotype" or "What do you hate in this sign". We should really point out the offender's words in that specific post and let them know their verbage is not warranted nor wanted. They are the ones with the problem, not the empathetic pisces or the bossy leo..LOL...


Also, keep in mind that there WILL be differences and there will be those we just don't like or get along with. It is human, it is nature and it isn't wrong. But calling someone a freaking stupid "place your sign here" just because of their place on the zodiac wheel is just infantile.

~Pidaua

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Azalaksh
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posted May 23, 2005 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Pid -- Bravo!! (**wild applauding**)
'zala

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neptune's mermaid
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posted May 23, 2005 07:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replys knowflakes

Venus, I agree, sensitivity is a strength. There’s a reason why water is the strongest element.

Future_uncertain, I don’t like the Virgo description either. Especially because the Virgos I know are anything but angelic

DD lol with Randall running this site, I don’t think anyone will keep us in check…thank goodness.

Battle lol I think the sign Virgo may be seem unpopular…but Virgos themselves are a different story. The ones I know are breaking every rule. The female Virgos I know are notorious flirts…and that’s when they’re being good.

pidaua

When I said “cool” signs, I was thinking of Aries and Libra. I agree with what you said but I wasn’t focussing on the negative side of the fish. All those things that I stated in my first two posts I don’t believe…because I think they’re exaggerations.

Yes there are beautiful parts to every sign…and I have nothing against Aries and Libra God knows I adore both.

The reason I started this thread was not because of what knowflakes around here say, but rather some astrologers. You can’t deny that some signs get the short end of the stick. Some are considered hard core and tough…while others are wimps How can 1/12 of the human race ALL be the same? I just don’t like being judged negatively. “You’re a fish…therefore you’re a pushover” I’ve met Arians that are pushovers.

I was raised mostly by a Libra, therefore a big part of me will always be one. I don’t like it when astrologers play favourites. They need to leave their emotional wounds at home.

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