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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 10:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will New York City be hit by a tsunami in the future?


Question was asked on June 2, 2005 at 1:32pm from New York, New York


Hi atlanticmyst,

I am curious about what your motivation for asking this question was. Was it just idle curiousity or were you in a serious frame of mind when you asked? Did something you heard prompt you to ask?

The tsunami would be shown by the 6th house ruler, Saturn in Cancer. Saturn is approaching the star Procyon, which lies next to the River of Heaven. The constellation does have associations with drowning. The Moon, the natural significator of the people, is applying to square Saturn, suggesting a possible yes answer to your question, as far fetched as that may seem, which is why I am curious about whether you asked the question from idle curiosity or not.


Take care,

Julie

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 10:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won't be here in 2012. I'm moving to Texas, british columbia, ontario, or ohio.


At least that will be left on the map.

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leoelf
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posted June 03, 2005 10:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I might leave too, I'm actually planning to go to New Orleans for a little trip if my money acts right. The end of August. WOOO HOOO!!!! Just to see what other places would be nice for me and the rugrat should I decide to leave here.

Are you staying here, sweetie?

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 10:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loelf go to the places I mentioned. I have seen the future world map and it ain't pretty. It even shows atlantis rise up and a new continent called lemuria appears.

The whole east coast of the united states will be gone......so will the west coast.


Why can't the tsunami be 2 stories high instead of 1000 feet high?


Mother nature sucks.

My mother, my sister, and I haven't had dreams like that when we were young for no reason. I knew it.



Mega-tsunami: Wave of Destruction
BBC2 9:30pm Thursday 12th October 2000

NARRATOR (EMMA FIELDING): 40 million people live and work along the east coast of the United States, yet this entire population unknowingly lives under threat of a sudden catastrophe.

DR. SIMON DAY (Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre, UCL): The east coast of America is, is the worst place this could happen. It’s not some remote, deserted coastline, it’s one of the most densely populated places in the world.

NARRATOR: Scientists have now found evidence that a colossal wave will one day devastate the coast of America. It will be far bigger than any normal tidal waves, or tsunami. It is what scientists call a mega-tsunami.

PROF. BILL McGUIRE (Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre, UCL): It’s almost inconceivable how much damage this event will cause and yet the general public knows absolutely nothing about it.

HERMANN FRITZ: If the Cumbre Vieja were to collapse as one single block it would create a giant mega-tsunami with an initial wave height of 650 metres and a wavelength of 30-40 kilometres travelling westwards across the Atlantic with speeds up to 720 kilometres an hour towards America.

SIMON DAY: The scale of this produced a feeling of unreality as one realised what could happen. This event was so huge that it will affect not only the people on the island but people way, way on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, people who’ve never even heard of La Palma will be affected by this event.

NARRATOR: There is evidence that seems to show collapses like La Palma create mega-tsunami that really can cross whole oceans and devastate distant continents. Scientists know that one of the last volcanic landslides in the Canaries happened here on a neighbouring island to La Palma. When a section of the island collapsed around 120,000 years ago it launched a mega-tsunami which would have swept across the Atlantic towards the Americas. Simon Day believes that evidence for its destructive power can be seen thousands of miles away in the Bahamas. He believes the huge wave reshaped some of these islands, blasting these shaped chevron ridges up to 10 kilometres long across parts of the Bahamian coastline. The wave also ripped vast boulders from off the ocean floor, some over 1,000 tons in weight and dumped them high above sea-level.


SIMON DAY: This was astonishing. Here was evidence that an event so extraordinary, that it could really only be produced by something as catastrophic as an ocean island collapse.

NARRATOR: So when is the next catastrophic event going to happen? The geologists had now discovered the Cumbre Vieja could collapse during some future volcanic eruption. The difficulty, however, is in knowing when this will happen.

SIMON DAY: We have no idea when the next eruption will occur on the summit of the Cumbre Vieja. In recorded history there have been eruptions in 1949, in 1712, in 1646 so it looks as though there is an eruption up there once every 2 centuries or so, on average. The last eruption was 50 years ago so it is likely that sometime during the next century there’ll be another eruption up there.

NARRATOR: Tourists in America and the Canaries shouldn’t cancel their holidays. The next summit eruption is unlikely to happen for decades and it may take many more eruptions before the flank of the volcano is pushed into the Atlantic. The problem is scientists cannot tell.

BILL McGUIRE: There could be 5 more summit eruptions of the Cumbre Vieja before the western flank collapses, there could be 10, there could be 20. On the other hand, the west flank could collapse during the next eruption. We simply don’t know, but put it this way, if I was living in Miami or New York and I heard that the Cumbre Vieja was erupting I’d be keeping a very close eye on the news.

NARRATOR: The geological evidence now shows that La Palma may well be the next volcanic island to collapse and when it does so it will create a devastating natural disaster.

BILL McGUIRE: The first thing that you’d feel actually would be seismic activity, earthquakes, because the collapse is going to be related to an eruption.

SIMON DAY: As the forces within the volcano built up to, to the point where they would begin to overcome the friction forces holding the flank in place the flank would begin to move towards the sea.

BILL McGUIRE: And then at some point the rock would fail on a major scale and this huge chunk of rock, maybe 20 kilometres long or more, would start to slide into the sea.

SIMON DAY: The waves initially here would be many hundreds of metres high and those waves would all be moving out into the ocean spreading out laterally, but with a lot of the energy heading across the Atlantic towards the coast of the Americas.

BILL McGUIRE: Looking down on it, it’ll look unbelievable, it’ll look as if the island is falling apart generating these huge waves which are fanning outwards to reach the eastern coast of the United States.

SIMON DAY: The waves will take about 8 hours to travel between here and the coast of America just enough time to get the message out to warn people that this event was happening, but unless evacuation plans were incredibly efficient it would not be enough time to get everybody out of the affected areas. The areas at risk include cities like Miami, parts of Boston, the coastal areas and suburbs of New York.

GARY McMURTRY: If you were standing on a beach in what is presently Miami, the very first effects you’d probably see is what we call drawback. The ocean would suddenly just pull away. You’d see a tide, a low tide like you’ve never seen before in your life. It would be actually spellbinding but in the background you’d be seeing this wall and it’d keep coming at you.

BILL McGUIRE: This would be the biggest natural catastrophe in history. There’s a problem with all major natural catastrophes. Because we’ve never experienced these things we don’t think that they’re going to happen to us. We just ignore them, but these sorts of events have occurred throughout geological history. They’re not going to stop happening just because we’re around. La Palma is going to collapse into the North Atlantic. It’s not a question of if, it’s just a question of when.


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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 10:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
New orleans is actually sinking and will be gone also.


Im gonna go to texas most likely.

They say orlando and tampa are still gonna be there. My cousin is terrified and is moving there.

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leoelf
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posted June 03, 2005 10:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What?
Jesus Christ. I always wondered why they came out with that movie, remember that movie about the tsunamis?

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 10:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. I saw it when it came out but.....the one we will experience will be 1000 feet high. Only thing sticking out will be the tip of the empire sate building.


The water won't just rise like it showed in the movie.....it will come as a big wave....full force.

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leoelf
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posted June 03, 2005 10:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WTF
When do they say these things will happen?
Sounds like the end of the world.

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 10:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you believe this beautiful city will be underwater?

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leoelf
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posted June 03, 2005 10:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As if we haven't been through enough sh*t here, wow.

And I'm high on redbull and feeling all jittery and emotional. I need a cig now.
Are you staying here in LL?

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 10:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have til 2012. They say December 2012.


There is a super volcano located in the canary islands that is already extinct. Over the centuries it has filled with water. When it fills to much it will collapse into the ocean. The impact will be so hard that it will send an 1,000 foot wave towards the east coast of the united states and will take 8 hours to reach us.

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pixelpixie
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posted June 03, 2005 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Panic Police squad here...

*breathe*
*relax*

Of course, natural disasters are always a very real possibility.

I remember the hurricanes and being terribly concerned with my LL family in Florida ( ie; Gloria)
And Proxieme at that time was close too... well, my Geography is horrid, but I remember she was affected... or close enough...

PLease don't live your life as if something terrible will happen at any moment.
I mean, live it as if it were the last... you know, as in, be kind to others, find yourself. etc...
But, you know...
The Earth is strong.
It is full of possibility.
Anything can happen.
Even in Ontario.

*admittedly, I did sigh relief when I saw Ontario.. I don't know if it is a different place in the states, but hey, that's where I am, in name at least...

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 10:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to scare anyone but please take this as a warning. The scientists have even said to take it seriously. We have til 2012. Leave before then.

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leoelf
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posted June 03, 2005 10:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even though my hard times, this city proved it's loyalty to me, it is and always will be the city with so many oppurtunities and fun and beauty!

I'm gonna go read up about this, I know NYC is supposed to have a huge earthquake too.

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leoelf
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posted June 03, 2005 10:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1621.cfm

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted June 03, 2005 12:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By that time I'll be living in Ontario stalking Pixie MWHAHAHA

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pixelpixie
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posted June 03, 2005 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"stalking"????

No way, babe!
Come on over, bring some beer, (You might want to buy it in Canada .)I'll feed you and house you!
Come on down!

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted June 03, 2005 12:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woohoo! Sounds like good times to me!! Watching the world close in on itself would be a mere pasttime to watch

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 02:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Went to ontario once and loved it. can I come also ;(


I'm only 6 hours away in car.

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maya-v
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posted June 03, 2005 02:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, since we've already been hit in India once, I guess I'll just go home then ... anyone is welcome, as long as you dont mind lazing around, gossiping and being constantly surrounded by a million family members, neighbours and even passers-by!

Oh, we have a lot of powercuts though - so get your searchlight and some batteries and mosquito repellant for the summers!

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 02:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heh! When I visit my family in colombia I always come back with mosquito bites all over my body. The repellent never seems to work though LOL.


LOl I rememebr the power cuts. It was fun LOL

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leoelf
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posted June 03, 2005 02:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She never answered my question.

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who?

I just realized something. Before I leave I will make sure I take my fathers coffin with me. I don't want his resting place to be under water....in a city that wont exist anymore.

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 06:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leolf and maya what part of new york are u guys in?

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 03, 2005 06:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami_transcript.shtml


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