posted June 06, 2005 03:31 AM              

I hope you find what you seek.
Everyone for that matter...
Love is definately what you make it.
The same hand that loves you strokes you and feeds you can be bitten due to an inability to feel those things where it counts.
That is alone.
To feel that no one gets it. No one should.
That is alone.
You are here and reaching and willing to walk the ledge, whether you fall or not.
Surely, someone will come to steady your hand and find your feet to dance.

hope this helps u things better , its actually not mine , its pixie's .

posted June 06, 2005 06:21 AM              

.. u may remember this from before ..
that .. you have effectng your natal chart by transit

transiting Chiron opposite your natal Venus
transiting Pluto sesquisqare your natal Chiron
transiting Lillith conjunct your natal Venus

those transits are at the moment at less than 1 degree orb
that is .. they are at their strongest at moment

both Chiron and Pluto are in RETROGRADE motion
.. that is why it may seem it is happening all over again
.. that is your 'blue and alone ' feelings
.. Lillith is pretty good at promoting 'anger and hate' feelings

Lillith will pass soon .. unfortunately for yourself and others
here at LL .. both Chiron and Pluto will turn direct at somestage
this year .. so the transits will repeat themselves .. but in direct motion

Chiron takes 51 years to compete its' journey around the zodiac ring
but in the last 25 has completed 3/4 of the journey .. it is now slowing
down ...
Pluto takes hundreds of years to complete its journey ..

i would say those Chiron and Pluto transits would be likely
to promote difficult feelings in the romance department

try and find a way to follow your natal transits as they happen
i.e visualy via an astrology programme for a computer ....
plenty can be found at TuCows.com

posted June 06, 2005 07:00 AM              

In Greco-Roman art, Chiron is almost always shown carrying a child on his back. But despite this emblem of hope, the figure of the King of the Centaurs is a tragic one. It is worth reiterating the myth, which is often distorted or wrongly told because it is such a painful one.
In myth, Chiron did not become a healer because he was wounded. That is an optimistic reinterpretation which attempts to make sense of life's pain by assigning it a specific purpose and meaning - to develop the compassion and wisdom to heal others because of one's own pain. This reinterpretation of the myth is valid as a way of working with one's own wounds. But Chiron's pain serves no such noble purpose in the story. He is already a teacher and a healer, before he is wounded. It could be assumed that he is already wounded because he suffers isolation; although he is a Centaur, and therefore one of a tribe of creatures who symbolise natural instinctual powers, he is himself civilised, and has thus separated himself from his tribe. Chiron in this context represents the wise animal, a natural power which of its own volition has chosen to serve human evolution and consciousness, rather than remain blindly subject to the instinctual compulsions of the animal kingdom. Like the "helpful animal" in fairy tales, Chiron turns his back on the savagery of his instinctual nature, in order to serve the evolutionary pattern which he deems to be the way forward for the whole of life.
But Chiron is in the wrong place at the wrong time. He is caught between Herakles, the solar hero who personifies the strength of the human ego, and the wild, untamed Centaurs whom Chiron himself has left behind. While the battle rages, Chiron takes no part; he has sympathy for both. Perhaps because of this mediating role, which deprives him of his natural aggression, he is accidentally wounded by a poisoned arrow aimed at another Centaur, and the wound does not heal, no matter what healing methods he applies to it. Ultimately he retires to his cave howling in anguish, begging for death. Zeus and Prometheus take pity on him, and grant him the boon of mortality, allowing him to die in peace like any mortal, although once he was a god.
This terrible story implies a state of unfairness in life which is hard for any individual, and perhaps even harder for the idealistic individual involved in studies such as astrology, to countenance. We want to believe that life is fair, and that goodness is rewarded and evil punished, at least in some other incarnation if not in this one. Here is a good creature who suffers through no fault of his own, a victim of the inevitable battle between evolution and inertia, consciousness and blind instinctuality. Chiron is an image of that in us which has been wounded unfairly by life, and by inescapable conditions which reflect failings and flaws in a collective psyche which is unfailingly clumsy in its efforts to progress. Because human beings are both solar hero and wild animal, and because our efforts to civilise ourselves over history have so often produced disastrous results, we have a legacy of unfairly inflicted pain which produces repercussions through the generations. Physical and psychological damage whose causes lie, not in any individual or even parental failing, but in genetic inheritance, or collective disasters such as the Holocaust and the present nightmare in Kosovo, belong to the realm of Chiron. In these spheres our individual strivings, fired by the Sun, refined and focused by the inner planets, and given form and strength by Saturn, are thwarted or damaged by forces in life, in history, in society, and in the collective psyche over which we have no control and for which, as individuals, we cannot be blamed.
Such collisions with the inescapable flaws of the collective can leave us full of bitterness and cynicism. We may punish others because we feel maimed, wounded and irredeemable. Or we may punish ourselves. But if we can progress beyond this black bile of bitterness, and if we are persistent enough in our search for answers, we may indeed find an answer - even if the answer is that there is no answer, and that we must accept the limits of mortal existence. Acceptance is one of Chiron's gifts, and it is different from self-pitying resignation. Chiron's boon of death may be understood as a symbol of the acceptance of being mortal, and it constitutes a transformation which, even if it cannot heal the unhealable or alter the past, can radically change our perspective on life. Through it we learn compassion, albeit of a limited kind. Chiron's compassion is the compassion of one lame person for another. We may feel deep empathy for those who are wounded like ourselves. But without the Sun's warmth and light, we may not find the generosity to move beyond the narrow circle of those whose specific pain mirrors our own, and see that life hurts us all, in one way or another.

Chiron as scapegoater: the wounded becomes the wounder

There are many stages in the process which Chiron represents, beginning with his wounding, and ending with his transformation into mortality and his release from suffering. These stages encompass rage, fury, the desire to injure others, bitter resignation, self-pity, feelings of victimisation, and, at last, the dawning of a wish to understand the universal patterns that lie beyond one's personal pain. At any of these stages, if we fail to face and comprehend what is happening to us, we may become stuck and act out some of Chiron's less attractive features. Chiron is, after all, wounded in his animal half, and animals are not known for their philosphical attitude when injured. Those which have the strength tend to bite back.

the complete article is here http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_wounding_e.htm

more 'chiron' links ( .. also research "VENUS" .. as it is that planet in your
natal chart that Chiron is transiting/aspecting by OPPOSITION .. the opposition
aspect can often involve 'other people' )
http://www.lunarliving.org/featured/real_meaning_chiron.shtml
http://martinlass.com/healhand.htm
http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm

posted June 06, 2005 07:05 AM              

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i made ur chart without ur name , if it doesn't hamper ur privacy , i can try it with ur name

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Do you mean numerology? with her name?

I'm lost lol

posted June 07, 2005 08:36 AM              

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i made ur chart without ur name , if it doesn't hamper ur privacy , i can try it with ur name

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This is what I didn't get.. try what with her name? how does her name change her chart? unless I'm missing something..

The only thing I knew you need names for is a numerology interpretation..

lol i'm lost you're lost .. lost lost lost