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Topic: and so to each her own...(paradigm)
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whiterabbit
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posted June 06, 2005 11:12 PM
  
My family generally views my love of astrology as a weird thing, not fitting into the family's tradition of "rational" thought. Sometimes there's also teasing and smug comments: all I which I have been ignoring for a decade now. But tonight I got into a real shouting match with my mother- well it was me doing the shouting. I was just so sensitive to all of her comments, though they were nothing new. I was angry at the world and their notions of "rational" occupations, and the "irrational" label placed on things that they can't understand. I think more than just shouting at my mother, I was shouting at everyone I've ever met who views astrology as a flaky interest. Especially people who comment on it that don't really understand it at all. "So everyone in the world fits into TWELVE categories?" I'm sure you've all heard that one before. But the whole time I felt like such a hypocrite. I was trying to invoke every ounce of Aquarius in me, the famous "live and let live" concept- but it wasn't working. There I was yelling at her for "disrespecting" my views- but now that I'm calm and reflecting on it- was I maybe yelling at her for not believing it's possible? Shouldn't I respect the fact that to her it just doesn't make sense, never will, and that is that? It's not like she ever tried to make me stop learning about it. I just felt so "unwise" tonight. How do you deal with this type of thing? I've always wanted to be one of those people who thinks what they think and respects what everyone else thinks (except in extreme cases- racism, etc.). And I think I used to see myself that way. But tonight I displayed those ugly heads of conviction- obstinacy and intolerance.
It's so frustrating!just say that it's a possibility I'm thinking. But is that an unfair thing to ask?
How does one really, truly "live and let live"?
P.S. isn't it strange when we discover hidden truths about ourselves?
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whiterabbit
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posted June 06, 2005 11:22 PM
ha! just read my astro.com daily horoscope, and here are the good bits:
You may need to put the brakes on in your mind today, for you tend to think and speak hastily. Others may seem too slow for you today, and in your haste you may overlook something significant. In conversation with others, you are inclined to be blunt. Just be careful not to overdo it, and avoid saying things simply to shock people. Be prepared to back up your words later.
well there you go 
yeah I know, I know, I'm still responsible for my words..IP: Logged |
lovely*
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posted June 06, 2005 11:47 PM
oh geeze, i think everyone here at some point has had the astrology dispute. when i was younger i had such a difficult time explaining what i knew in a cohesive way..ya know, everything out of my mouth sounded so corny, so i kept quiet. so.. don't bother talking about your beliefs, just live them. show people examples. point out all the leos who have striking resemblences to cats.. start astro guessing games with people. i'm sorry you had a run in with your mom. you would probably like her support or at least understanding/respect. but maybe you did the right thing by standing up for yourself. don't worry. even the most spiritual guru of guru's guru gets angry and fed up~ IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted June 07, 2005 12:49 AM
Hey whiterabbit,I have some family members against my interests in astrology. I just don't talk about it to them and just keep it on the down low  . quote:
P.S. isn't it strange when we discover hidden truths about ourselves?
I love it!
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cancerrg
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posted June 07, 2005 04:29 AM
i feel the best way out , ignore thier comments . well any time that i start speaking on any of my fav.subjects ( astrology included) i always start with the caution - u might have a different view than mine , thats the first step to pacify the things , i feel u have to do this reason being because u or i are talking of things that they have no iota of understanding and they have been modelled to understand its all crap but its ur and mine faith in it and we for sure know this i s correct though ofcourse not hundred percent but up to sixty to seventy percent , even pure science like maths has some unsolved mysteries and the world has no answer to them . my approach works , try it .IP: Logged |
Devilfish
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posted June 07, 2005 09:47 AM
ah i ve been through this one to with my family.Mainly we have different religious views (my family is hard core southern baptist).
i use to argue with my Grandmother because she would be very pushy about excepting Christ .I didnt wantto be a liar so i would try ,in vain, to tell her my beliefs that it is not JUST Christ or Buddah or Allah ect.
Then one day someone made me think and i realized that my Grandmother wasnt just trying to push her views on me she was tryin to share HERSELF , her wisdom , her divinity, with me.I realized she has so much love for me that to her this was her greatest gift to me.
Now i listen to her and try to learn more about her thru her beliefs.
in return she has become more open to my beliefs too.
im not sure if this post will help you in your situation but i send understanding and support your way...................chin up hon. 
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whiterabbit
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posted June 07, 2005 12:30 PM
Thanks everyone, great advice. I guess I just had to rant yesterday.
I guess it's a good idea to just not talk about it, ignore comments, etc. only with my family that's a pretty hard thing to do, everybody loves to talk and ignoring is not accepted well.
That's a very inspiring story Devilfish, and you are right- it's often about so much more than the religious views or other views- it usually is about sharing what they think will bring you a good life, isn't it? And trying to let you know them.
Thanks everyone! 
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Mama Mia
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posted June 07, 2005 01:12 PM
I agree I do not try to make ppl believe in astrology if they do not already. But what I do is give them example of different signs and ask them do you know any and if they say yes I say do you think they all have this in common and they say well yeah they do. I don't argue if they say no I say pay closer attention and see. I use astrolgy to find the essensce of a person. Devilfish that was a inspiring story. IP: Logged |
The Mutable Night Force
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Registered: Oct 2009
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posted June 07, 2005 03:21 PM
Awwww white rabbit, I sympathise with you soooo much! That kind of situation sucks a big one.It's sad when I realise things astrologically that I'm excited about and I want to tell someone because to me it's so interesting and they just say "Shame I don't believe in it" or "Yeah, but that's all rubbish anyway" and it makes me even angrier when you're pointing out stuff to them about themselves that they don't even see but refuse to believe. To me, it seems not like a question of believing because to me they'll always be an Aries or a Pisces and that's just the way they are. The accuracy of it impressed me so much I couldn't help believe it because it just seemed like fact. (Although I don't count newspaper horoscopes as holding much ground as they're usually wrong). I mean, unlike religion, it's not a question of not seeing it or proof, because the way people behave IS the proof! They should do some kind of tests to show people how much grounds it has. "So everyone in the world fits into TWELVE categories?"
Yes. Yes they do. Now shut up.
Man, I hate people like that. whiterabbit, good on you, it can feel sort of liberating to let this off your back. It's sad people can't take an interest like they would if you had another hobby like poetry or football.  IP: Logged |
WaterNymph
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posted June 08, 2005 06:05 PM
It's hard, but you have to accept that you can't share astrology with everyone. I expect people to at least respect it, and no more.I don't force my religion on them, why should I force them to believe astrology. Sorry about what happened with you and your mum.
Oh and I don't think you're unwise  ------------------
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teaselbaby
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From: Ohio
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted June 10, 2005 10:06 AM
I remember one time, several years ago ~ I'd been in an *awful* mood all day, snapping at everyone and just being a right little ***** in general; I hardly ever get that out of sorts. I checked out my astro.com forecast that evening too, and found the aspect "Cruisin' for a bruisin'" LOL ~ I most definitely was, and that produced my first smile (and laugh) of the day. IP: Logged | |
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