posted June 12, 2005 01:41 PM              

All I could find for now:

Venus and Pluto

Conjunction
sexual repression, obsessions in love, and financial ability.

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posted June 12, 2005 06:49 PM              

I also just found this:
Mars conjunct Uranus: You have unconventional sexual attitudes.

Venus square Uranus: You are attracted to people of the same sex or have an unconventional sex life.

I mean that doesn't come right out and say "low/no sex drive" but the small but growing community of those considering themselves asexual is in a sense unconventional, at least from societal norms.

Aphrodite, you are welcome to have a gander at my chart . I posted about this because I was getting so irritated at people asking to look at it (not here) and then interpreting my Mars in Scorpio in 7th, or my Jupiter in Scorpio in 7th, completely by itself, and absolutely insisting I have this massive libido...it just doesn't correlate with real life me!

posted June 12, 2005 08:18 PM              

No, I don't think Scorpio placements are any sort of sexual deviance. I don't really know how I implied anything you're talking about at all.

posted June 12, 2005 09:35 PM              

Venus in Virgo is its fall in this placement. And with it in the 5th house of self-expression, pleasure and sex, it is a possible answer to your question. Venus is about desire, attraction, partnerships, and sharing. In this chart, it is stressed with 2 T-squares and will probably be a deep issue that you will think about for the rest of your life here on Earth. Chiron in Taurus conjunct your Taurus Moon and creating one of the T-squares indicates that this is a deeply sensitive issue for you and is one of several causes of secret pain inside in your heart. It affects your self-image (1st house) and how you wish to relate with others. Perhaps bringing this topic up will draw people who share this as well? Have you read Venus Trines at Midnight by Linda Goodman? She has a poem in there about Venus in Virgo that is insightful. Venus squaring Uranus indicates that your personal nature is erratic and that you're highly independent. How you feel about sexuality will have a deviance from how the rest of society feels about it. Naturally, this causes stresses indicated by the square with Mars in Scorpio, and it's opposition the Moon. Because these placements are in the more extroverted houses, you are open to talking about them with people. There are many people who ask this question too and I am sure you will be able to connect to their thoughts and have interesting discussions.

Hope this helps

posted June 12, 2005 11:36 PM              

But yeah I was mostly wondering why all I saw in my chart was that I was pretty much supposed to have this incredibly huge libido the size of the universe and wondering what I personally wasn't seeing as my level of astrology knowledge is kind of moderate...I still can't put everything together yet. The huge discrepancy between the things I can read in my chart, and what I feel in real life, has pushed me to want to stop studying astrology altogether, it has caused that much frustration, so I finally threw it out here.

posted June 13, 2005 12:02 AM              

by Linda Goodman
Venus Trines at Midnight

People who learn passion from a book
the kind they mail in a plain wrapper
promising to teach you
where the erogenous zones are hidden
and all that other jazz

can develop cardboard hearts and
paper emotions
which fool some of the people all of the time
and all of the people some of the time
but not anyone real

Did you ever meet a champion
who learned the perfect timing of golf
from looking at pictures of Arnold Palmer
swinging a club?

Did you ever know a man
who learned the flowing motion of football
by reading about how Joe Namath does his thing
or even watching him pass the pigskin?

I mean, love has a rhythm too

To look at pictures
of people reaching for the miracle of sex
is like learning grief
from watching Corretta King's face on television
or Ethel Kennedy's expression
as her youngest child moves restlessly
among the shadows of the lawn

I look the other way
I already know

My heart learned grief by diving naked
into anguish
long ago
(though I've forgotten the exact day)

Maybe I've never dived so deeply
into that other urgent ocean of the soul
but I know this
People teach each other sex
and all those zones
if love was meant to be between them

to learn the words and music
of their own, alone and private song
together

So you read

One hundred and Sixty-Nine New Ways
To Arouse Passion

and I'll read

Lady Chatterley's Lover

What's wrong?

posted June 13, 2005 03:47 AM              

My ex was a Venus in Virgo and we got along very well, but with me too, it was expected that he was controlled, he never wanted to be, only he would meet women who need to be fixed, or had sexual issues. He was warm and caring and healing, but not lacking in sex drive.

My 5th is ruled by Aries and Taurus, so maybe that is why, I am more romantic, but I can see the difference between romance and sex, and some treat sex like it's abuse, not love.
If a man wants sex, and treats it like a game or a sport and doesn't take it seriously it's abusive to me emotionally.

Being a Taurus I have strong emotional needs, so I get very swept away by emotions and senses, but I can stop myself from getting out of control if the person I am with is overly crude or ugly to me in some way.

For that reason Venus in Aries is not in detriment, it's the perfect counterpart to a strong Venus Sun, just as Venus in Virgo is the perfect foil for Sun in Libra, which would otherwise be somewhat vain and superficial for my tastes.

The Venus in Aries and Virgo are there for a reason and I don't believe in detriments or falls.

The sun in Virgo is not in detriment either, as Virgos are not humble and are actually strong and beautiful people. And very, very sexy.

My biggest crush was on a Virgo!

I think lack of sex drive is simply a plutonian problem of healing, there is an emotional or physical wound that needs healing;

Once I had a urinary tract infection and I didn't know it, I had an operation and they gave me antibiotics which they told me cleared it up as well as prevented infection after the operation. In the following weeks, my body felt incredibly alive for the first time in months! It was amazing. These low grade fevers and infections can really drain you.

Check your urinary tract to make sure it's healthy, drink plenty of water and take grapefruit seed extract. If you have a low grade infection or fever you will not know it and your body will not feel alive. Get outside and hike, explore the outdoors and feel alive. Once your body starts to heal, your skin will tingle and you will feel better and better about nourishing yourself with sex, which is just another kind of food, not something meant to drain you.

If you feel drained after sex there is something wrong, it should feed you, and make you feel more alive.

It doesn't have to be beautiful and romantic, but it ought to be beautiful for you. Whether that means watching porn together, or making love in a meadow, it's your life.

posted June 13, 2005 06:03 PM              

-this is long term
-it has nothing to do with any of my partners (in fact the more sexual they are the more likely I am to dump them eventually, not out of fear, but out of incompatibility)
-it is not something I feel needs to be fixed, I was not looking for that here
-it has nothing to do with turn-offs
-it is not being caused by a transit
-it has nothing to do with a lack of emotional connection between me and someone else, i found that once, he was not sexual either and it was awesome
-my libido does not vary, it is nonexistent
-i was not looking for explanations outside of astrology, as i do not even see it as a problem that needs fixing.

I'm not even touching this thread again, I really wish I didn't even post it. If someone would like to delete it, I'd be absolutely more than happy to see it go.

posted June 13, 2005 07:35 PM              

I really have no idea if Linda's poem offended you, virgotaurustaurus. It wasn't intended for malice or saying anything was "wrong" with you. It's just material to read and because one rarely comes across anything artistically written about astrology in the modern era.

I am glad you found the interpretation helpful. If you have questions, just let me know.

Take care

posted June 13, 2005 10:02 PM              

I am also just rather touche lately. I might just have to come back to this whole thread at a later time (like when Moon is not squaring my sensitive biatch Chiron!)!

posted June 14, 2005 12:18 AM              

Vesta Aspecting Saturn:

Both of these have to do with the ability to focus. The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) can increase the discipline, organization, and dedication that you devote to work. The stressful aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) can make for a workaholic drudge or someone who has difficulties (Saturn) focusing on work at all. Needless to say, stressful aspects between Saturn and Vesta increase the chance of sexual hang-ups, especially repression and denial.

Check your Vesta..

posted June 14, 2005 12:38 AM              

Plus I noticed you have Uranus in the 8th house....via your mind, creativity.

posted June 14, 2005 12:59 AM            

I think it's great that you are self-aware enough to understand your drives... I liked what you said about the guy you dated with a similar drive and it was awesome. Good for you for paying attention to yourself!

I hope you got some of the astrological info you were looking for.