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gemini girl
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posted July 02, 2005 03:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pls guys i really have no one to talk to not about this anyway i think im in love im crazy about this guy i met over the net and he says hes crazy about me no one has ever treated me this well ok i know its over the net but ive had successful bonds so it doesnt really bother me besides if i still know him well meet end of the year but the more i get to know him he backs away and i know its not cause hes not interested thing is i cant say much but he is involved with ppl he shouldnt be and he is busy with dangerous stuff i seem to have almost like a psychic connection with him but i can sense that he needs someone to just be there but its so hard i cant help him cause he doesnt want help its like he has to keep a distance to protect me as well and in the beginning i tried to get out but i cant im very strongly attracted to him and every time that i want to push him away its like a magnet why do i like him so much and i made the mistake of telling him he has a dark heart and he took that too deep so now he like goes on about what it is that makes him so dark i know i shouldnt love him but i do besides he really isnt bad and hes never treated me bad but im having trouble figuring him out he doesnt mind helping me but his attitude is that he doesnt need anyone if anyone can give me advice not judgement cause thats all i ever receive is there some clues in his chart to get to know him better maybe its our moons scorpio and aquarius lol he makes me feel so protected and safe and i feel vaunrable around him how should i act what should i do i dont want to ignore him its like he is close to not falling apart but close to something like that and he told me that i dont understand what its like to be lonely i believe in astrology but i feel hopeless so i need perpective something i dont have now pls anyone so i can just get some direction

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sue g
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posted July 02, 2005 04:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he is practising the dark arts GG, stay away from him, this is dangerous, I have experience of it and the kindest thing you can do to yourself is to stand back.

A guy I used to see has Moon in Scorp and so does my sister and both of them in different ways have brought darkness into my life. They both harbour intense and dark emotions, they dont dabble in magic, but I think this guy does, from what you say. I think you already know what to do. If you dont move away, and you get further involved with him, it could be a very difficult path for you. If we dont live in the light, life can become very difficult, dont I just know it. Trust me girl, I have been there more than once. In fact I have just, thro past life regression, severed a bond with someone after 5 years. we were involved in the dark arts in a former life, not to scare you, but he cursed me and I carried this forward - thanks be to the light and good people who have guided me thro,it has now lifted. I wouldnt have mentioned this,but I feel it is appropriate for you to grow. Sever this connection asap. Sending you light and love Sue xxx

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gemini girl
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posted July 02, 2005 04:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
male)
born on 25 March 1987 local time 12:00 midn.
in London, ENG (UK) U.T. 00:00
0w10, 51n30 sid. time 12:07:01
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Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Aries 03°48'35 04 direct
Moon Aquarius 04°35'22 02 direct
Mercury Pisces 06°06'11 03 direct
Venus Aquarius 25°36'30 03 direct
Mars Taurus 22°07'40 06 direct
Jupiter Aries 05°20'09 04 direct
Saturn Sagittarius 21°07'51 01 stationary (R)
Uranus Sagittarius 26°42'19 01 direct
Neptune Capricorn 07°55'53 01/2 direct
Neptune is technically near the end of house 1 and is interpreted in house 2.
Pluto Scorpio 09°30'11 11 retrograde
True Node Aries 11°32'23 04 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Sagittarius 04°43'11
2nd House Capricorn 09°17'48
3rd House Aquarius 23°28'48
Imum Coeli Aries 01°54'47
5th House Aries 29°01'39
6th House Taurus 18°44'34
Descendant Gemini 04°43'11
8th House Cancer 09°17'48
9th House Leo 23°28'48
Medium Coeli Libra 01°54'47
11th House Libra 29°01'39
12th House Scorpio 18°44'34

Major aspects
Sun Sextile Moon 0°47
Sun Conjunction Jupiter 1°32
Sun Square Uranus 7°06
Sun Square Neptune 4°07
Sun Trine Ascendant 0°55
Moon Sextile Jupiter 0°45
Moon Square Pluto 4°55
Moon Sextile Ascendant 0°08
Mercury Sextile Neptune 1°50
Mercury Trine Pluto 3°24
Mercury Square Ascendant 1°23
Venus Square Mars 3°29
Venus Sextile Saturn 4°29
Venus Sextile Uranus 1°06
Mars Quincunx Saturn 1°00
Jupiter Square Neptune 2°36
Jupiter Trine Ascendant 0°37
Saturn Conjunction Uranus 5°34
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°34
mine
(female)
born on 9 June 1987 local time 04:25 pm
in Cape Town, SAFR U.T. 14:25
18e22, 33s55 sid. time 08:48:10

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Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Gemini 18°13'55 07 direct
Moon Scorpio 17°04'05 12 direct
Mercury Cancer 11°52'28 08 direct
Venus Taurus 28°01'59 06/7 direct
Venus is technically near the end of house 6 and is interpreted in house 7.
Mars Cancer 12°37'01 08 direct
Jupiter Aries 22°25'35 06 direct
Saturn Sagittarius 17°50'32 01 retrograde
Uranus Sagittarius 25°00'43 02 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 07°07'52 02 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 07°32'43 12 retrograde
True Node Aries 09°04'10 05 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 28°16'57
2nd House Sagittarius 23°48'46
3rd House Capricorn 16°03'47
Imum Coeli Aquarius 09°35'56
5th House Pisces 08°30'58
6th House Aries 16°10'54
Descendant Taurus 28°16'57
8th House Gemini 23°48'46
9th House Cancer 16°03'47
Medium Coeli Leo 09°35'56
11th House Virgo 08°30'58
12th House Libra 16°10'54

Major aspects
Sun Quincunx Moon 1°10
Sun Sextile Jupiter 4°12
Sun Opposition Saturn 0°23
Sun Opposition Uranus 6°47
Moon Trine Mercury 5°12
Moon Trine Mars 4°27
Mercury Conjunction Mars 0°45
Mercury Opposition Neptune 4°45
Mercury Trine Pluto 4°20
Venus Opposition Ascendant 0°15
Mars Opposition Neptune 5°29
Mars Trine Pluto 5°04
Jupiter Trine Saturn 4°35
Jupiter Trine Uranus 2°35
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°25
doesnt help if this is not included thanx again guys

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gemini girl
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posted July 02, 2005 04:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im sorry this man is ripping at my guts and hes not an evil person neither involved with magic etc. hes a catholic anyway hes involved with something like criminal activity (now ur all gonna tell me to stear away)not exactly what but he makes a lot of money i know it doesnt involve steeling and i think hes more like a middle man i dont know why i said to him his heart is dark i dont think it is its just im not sure what but he awakens very strong emotions in me

thanks so much sue for caring i really appreciate it maybe its my darkness reflecting on him although i dont think im dark i dont think dark had anything to do with what i meant to say to him im very confused

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted July 02, 2005 04:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if hes in any way involved in illegal activity i would say, stay away

gem girl i am a Gem/Scorp too (we talked about this before), and am currently with an Aries sun/Gem moon guy,

i dont know what you would describe ur guy as, your post seemed more feelings and emotions you feel about him than what he really comes across as. Maybe ur letting that paranoid scorp moon intuition rule over good old logic (i do that alot). i was suspicious of the aries i am with for a long time. he is not involved in anything 'dark' or bad, but does sell used cars for extra money (hes actually finishing med school), and he is very big on boxing and kung fu championships to win money, which i dont really approve of, but ok at least its not illegal or anything u know?

i guess aries men have to have the sort of dabble with underground experiences sometimes, they are also mars ruled like scorpions (ok i know scorps are technically pluto but also mars, at least according to traditional astro), and they can harbor some of that fascination with mysery and the dark side of life,

so far as scorp moons go, they can be detrimental to the person in question and create severely intense and emotional creatures but i have yet to see a malicious person with a scorp moon, in most cases it seems self destructive, not so much harmful to others.

whats interesting gem girl is the scorp/aqua moon connection, ive been with 2 aqua moons in the past and one was a total sleazeball (leo/aqua) the other was aqua/aqua and was a great guy, so i cant really spot any pattern there but the leo/aqua was just a horrible human being, sorry to say its the truth, so beware?

beware of your own tendency to fall for the wrong people, i doubt he will hurt you, unless of course u are sending out the signals of wanting him to do so, sometimes we do send out those signals unintentionally

Love
SG

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sue g
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posted July 02, 2005 04:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband knows a guy, they just play music once a week together, not close friends. This guy deals in knock off gear (stolen goods) and deals in drugs. He wants to get close to me, he keeps saying to my man "bring her over". He is the one that told me my ancestors were gypsies. He is dodgy and my husband has a great knack of detaching from him. As for me, I have a history of attracting dysfunctional people, drug addicts/users, mentally ill people etc who dont intend to heal their stuff. I NOW AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE!!!! If I just had to have one or two genuine people in my life, so be it. I dont want others hanging off me like before, it is dangerous and draining. Its your choice girl, take it or leave it, but be warned I was caught a few times - drugs, black magic, criminal activity etc etc - Ive seen it all and now I say NO THANKS!!!! Sending love to you xxx

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Happy Dragon
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posted July 02, 2005 10:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GemGirl

.. in the synastry .. amongst other things .. his Neptune and Pluto aspect your Mercury
.. that could have 'him' on your mind .. permanently ..

.. remember that Neptune .. by transit .. is squaring your natal Moon at the moment
.. this will be going on for some time .. ( romantic illusions/dreams /escapism could feature)

the london cyber chap .. i did his chart when i saw yer first posting about him ..
in light of what u say ( although i find it a bit hard to read your txt ) and in light
of what sueG has written ,, you may want to double check these aspects in his chart

Sun Square Neptune 4°07 http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Neptune_Sun.html

Mercury Sextile Neptune 1°50
Mercury Trine Pluto 3°24

Mercury Square Ascendant 1°23

.. there is mention of him possibly being involved with criminals ?
.. well ok .. if he has mentioned that to you .. it just may be to try and impress you ..
either that or there is not too much going on upstairs .. for him to email such info in
the first place .. but then most petty ciminals can be incredibly stupid .. ( am not saying he is one )

Jupiter conj. his Sun in Aries .. just may lead to an oversize ego .. that need not be the case though ..

also in his chart .. well he is also dealing with a Neptune to natal Moon transit .. in his case it be the conjunction and slightly after yours timewise .. but that Neptune to your natal Moons has been around a while .. and will be for a while yet ( end of this year maybe .. would have to recheck ) .. and do bear in mind that it's Neptune by retrograde motion ..

with Neptune it can often be a case of escapism .. best to keep drugs and alcholol to an absolute minimum during that transit .. .. .. .. .. and should you ever find out that any of your friends are involved in the heroin trade .. either as users or dealers .. walk away fast and don't look back .. i say in light of your transits / his transits .. and seeing what that evil cr*p has done to this country .. this city .. and what it has done to ppl i know ....

.. i would triple check .. nay .. check it 100 times .. any 'romantic' cyber connections

.. but then again .. life be for taking chances now and again .. just do it with yer eyes wide open .. no rose colored glasses .. ... i've not had contact with many 'occult' subjects .. but came accross some supposed ( in that i didn't know ) witchcraft when in the us .. but the experience freaked me out .. and that was enough for me .. .. been some rather crazy teen murders in this country lately .. .. at least one was a misguided individual with an interest in vampires .. he cut an old ladie's heart out .. as to the friends that hacked their camping mate to peices with church scythes .. they said it was over a girl .. but who knows ..

this is getting morbid .. must be the kreepy fog hereabouts ..

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Azalaksh
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posted July 02, 2005 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini girl ~

You wrote ”i think im in love im crazy about this guy i met over the net”. First things first: define what you mean by “Love”. It’s more than possible to grow strong feelings about someone you meet online, but until you meet in person, is it really possible to call it “love”?
And ”he says hes crazy about me no one has ever treated me this well”. What you are seeing are words only. Anyone can write wonderful and beautiful (and dishonest) words. And how IS he “treating” you? Can you tell how considerate he would be in person just from the nice things he says to you?
As AcousticGod put it ”That whole psychic connection thing is cool. I'm not sure how it will translate in real life, though. The beauty of writing is that you're not dealing with time constraints or body language. Instead, you have the time to really think about what the other person is saying and trying to communicate.” It also lends time for fabrications. I’m not saying this is happening or even likely, just a POSSIBILITY. If he has also willingly admitted/hinted to you that he is involved with unlawful activities which would probably result in a pretty good prison sentence if he were caught, is this the type of man you want to be involved with? He is NOT a victim, this is his choice of lifestyle. Speaking from my own personal experience, it’s not a happy place to be when your significant other is spending a lot of your relationship in jail. Also, there is the possibility of this guy being a superb manipulator. My ex could put together incredible strings of lovely words and make you feel like the most important person in the world, but it was all a sham, a facade. Manipulators like this excel at reading the emotions of more honest and straightforward types, and use them to their advantage.
gemini girl, please take the time to go back and read sue’s thread about her experiences with an energy-vampire – she knows what she’s talking about: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/001441.html

Be careful,
'Zala

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GemStar
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posted July 02, 2005 11:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From one Gemini to another...there are some strong sexual tones it seems in your connection I feel (even though it is on the net)...Do not confuse these with love.

According to Magi astrology, you have a DOUBLE Heartbreak Clash with him...He is NOT the One for you. Sorry...besides, you are quite young and still adding up adventures in the relationship department. No need to bring in such dark figures at this point (or ever) in your life...

Also, try not to be confused with the 'potential' of someone...look at the facts without emotion. He doesn't appear so appealing on paper does he? Illegal activities are not a part of your life...do not make people who are involved in that arena a part of it either...

Doing so is just Bad Karma.

Quietly try and release him...you are destined for better company!!

Thanks for being open and honest...friends here at LLand protect each other and try to offer guidance. Everyone wants the best for each other...just keep that in mind.

Ask the Universe for a new adventure (and leave this guy behind)...he will drag you down with him at some point...just release! (Another secret in life..learning to release a bad situation...this time it is important to follow your head, not your heart).

Good Luck...and Peace.

Hugs-
GemStar

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gemini girl
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posted July 02, 2005 12:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi guys thanx so much im just taking it all in ok first of i totally get what u all say and right now lol what hes involved with is not criminal and he never said it but i thought it was im ver suspiscious by nature
lol sorry question to Happy Dragon so after the transit well no longer be interested ? im just wondering its interesting to me and ive always wanted to know about the heartbreak clash cause i was born under it so i cant go out with any guy my age can does it affect me as much since that aspect is in my natal chart anyway i was just always wondering about this thanx guys

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gemini girl
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posted July 03, 2005 08:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe this is a stupid ques. lol but what does retrogade mean and im gonna try and study this guys' chart cause in every chart i learn something new and i love learning new stuff about astrology what planets do u look for in ways of showing affection only moon and venus? lately ive discovered that aspects to the planets and the signs their in plays a huge role if the signs best of worst qualities is displayed i used to hate being a gemini cause i never follow things through but its actually the opposition between uranus saturn and my sun so anyway thanx again u guys really helps getting perpective

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Azalaksh
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posted July 03, 2005 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GG ~

Retrograde means that a planet is apparently moving "backwards" from our position here on Earth. There's a lot here in the Astro forum about it, check back a few topics pages thru the subjects.....

Here's one definition from: http://www.astrologyware.com/janus3/features/glossary.shtml

"A planet is said to retrograde when it appears to be travelling backwards through the zodiac. Opinions vary on the interpretation of retrogradation. In natal work, it is considered an affliction, in horary work, it indicates that there is a need to go back over the matter and review it and in predictive work, it is often associated with the need to hold off taking important steps. All of the planets will be retrograde at some point in an 18 month period. The Sun and the Moon are never retrograde."

'Zala

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Happy Dragon
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posted July 03, 2005 06:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GeminiGirl

** . . . so after the transit well no longer be interested ? im just wondering its interesting to me and ive always wanted to know about the heartbreak clash cause i was born under it so i cant go out with any guy my age can does it affect me as much since that aspect is in my natal chart anyway i was just always wondering about this . . . . **

(after the transit is over will you be interested?) .. that i could not answer but when Neptune has passed you will feel different .. i have a similar neptune transit on myself ( to moon and venus ) .. however i have been thru it before and recognize it .. but for yourself it probably is the first time ( nept and urns take aprox 80 yrs .. so the aprox time for a square is 20 yrs ) .. i have no knowledge of the 'heartbreak clash' you mention .. well i've heard of magi astrology but never looked into it .. i don't look upon astrology as 'this will happen .. that won't happen' .. as an aquarian friend keeps reminding me .. the stars impell .. they do not compell ..

not following thru as a gemini .. don't worry about it .. i've got a ton of gemini in my chart .. scattered energies .. doing three things at the same time .. but i wouldn't want it any other way .. when u read up on the retrograde info you may find that Mercury ( gemini ruler ) goes retrograde about 3 times a year .. i be in the middle of working out when Nept/Urns and Pluto are doing their 'retro' bit .. as that is directly effecting your chart and quite a few ppl here at LL .. the retro question ... it's a subject in its own .. i mean books have been written on it and it can get complex .. but then again so can astrology ..

'til anon

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