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Topic: Difficulty "Owning" Libra Influences
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future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 02, 2005 09:58 PM
Do you ever feel like it's difficult to assert yourself with others because you can always see not only your point of view, but theirs as well?Does it make it difficult to express your own feelings sometimes because you already know where the other person is coming from? Or to even be able to pinpoint your own feelings when you know they're in conflict with someone else's? Do you ever find yourself when, in conflict with another, moving more toward understanding them rather than pushing to make yourself understood? Do you ever feel resentful that others don't apply this same treatment to you? And under the libra influence, do you ever find that insisting on your own way is no more fair than giving in to others, so you find yourself locked in stalemates? Libran influences can be difficult because they insist upon leadership/assertiveness (cardinal) but also insist upon understanding ideas (air) and fairness. Any thoughts? IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 982 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2005 10:27 PM
future ~Yes. Yes and No. Yes! No, not really. The secret is to Take Turns! Yes, it’s a balancing act! 'Zala IP: Logged |
Archer unregistered
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posted July 02, 2005 10:43 PM
i have difficulty with any form of self asserstion.mars in libra in 1st. venus in libra in 2nd. IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 982 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2005 10:46 PM
Future ~Couldn’t help myself – LOL! ” Do you ever feel like it's difficult to assert yourself with others because you can always see not only your point of view, but theirs as well?” I don’t find this “difficult”. Perhaps my Leo Asc has something to do with that, since the Lioness needs to be heard as well as listening. Besides, I don’t call it assertiveness, I call it “having discussions.” HaHaHa!! And I may SEE their point of view and totally disagree with it, which makes it even more imperative (depending on the person I’m interacting with) that my POV gets out there on the table for discussion. ” Does it make it difficult to express your own feelings sometimes because you already know where the other person is coming from? Or to even be able to pinpoint your own feelings when you know they're in conflict with someone else's?” This can happen (Part 1). I have an Aquarian friend who is very conservative – Wall Street Journal subscriber – he and I disagree about politics, green topics/environment, and just about anything else you can come up with. There are times when I just shake my head and give up, unless some transit is really tickling my Mars! (Part 2) And relating to the same guy, I find myself vacillating sometimes and questioning my own precepts because he is very articulate, well-read and perrsuasive, AND because he calls me just to get in his digs if “his side” was “victorious” in some issue!! ” Do you ever find yourself when, in conflict with another, moving more toward understanding them rather than pushing to make yourself understood?” Yes – all the time! Because I try hard to remain open-minded. I WANT to hear and understand opinions that differ from mine! I don’t have a clear and perceptive understanding of everything, and I have an insatiable curiosity and thirst for knowledge. ” Do you ever feel resentful that others don't apply this same treatment to you?” Nahhh, I don’t expect others to be Libran ” And under the libra influence, do you ever find that insisting on your own way is no more fair than giving in to others, so you find yourself locked in stalemates?” What percentage of the time do you “insist on your own way”, future? Set an image of those old-time pharmaceutical scales in your mind……half the time I should get my way, half the time the other person should get their way – right?!? Taking turns, compromise, this is the Key. ” Libran influences can be difficult because they insist upon leadership/assertiveness (cardinal) but also insist upon understanding ideas (air) and fairness.” Yeah, I agree with this totally, it can be challenging. But successes are oh so very sweet!!! Think of that iron fist inside the velvet glove……it’s nice to know it’s there, but not have to resort to using it. Now, your turn! {{hugs}} ‘Zala IP: Logged |
nove731 Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Strasbourg, France Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 02, 2005 11:30 PM
I have no Libra influence.IP: Logged |
BlueTopaz124 Knowflake Posts: 207 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 03, 2005 12:08 AM
yes...I have Venus in Libra in the 11th.IP: Logged |
elemiah unregistered
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posted July 03, 2005 07:26 AM
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES.........., Hey, but I´m learning!!Libra sun, Libra asc, Aqua moon IP: Logged |
Cardinalgal unregistered
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posted July 03, 2005 03:50 PM
Me to a tee!! IP: Logged |
sweetlibra unregistered
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posted July 04, 2005 04:11 AM
Do you ever feel like it's difficult to assert yourself with others because you can always see not only your point of view, but theirs as well? ----- Yes I always have this problem. And when i assert myself i feel like a butcher..!---- Does it make it difficult to express your own feelings sometimes because you already know where the other person is coming from? Or to even be able to pinpoint your own feelings when you know they're in conflict with someone else's? ------ Yes I feel the other person's feelings. Even when they are rude i somehow know their reasons. ------ Do you ever find yourself when, in conflict with another, moving more toward understanding them rather than pushing to make yourself understood? ----- Sigh.. It always happens with me. And i yell at myself this is the last time i'll do it..! ------- Do you ever feel resentful that others don't apply this same treatment to you? -------- Sometimes i feel when people show double standards. I point out it also. -------- And under the libra influence, do you ever find that insisting on your own way is no more fair than giving in to others, so you find yourself locked in stalemates? -------- I do..! ------ Libran influences can be difficult because they insist upon leadership/assertiveness (cardinal) but also insist upon understanding ideas (air) and fairness. Any thoughts? ---- YES, its very difficult being assertive(leadership) and understanding at the same time. But i have seen a few striking a balance between these two(not necessarily libras) IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus unregistered
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posted July 04, 2005 04:20 AM
Do you ever feel like it's difficult to assert yourself with others because you can always see not only your point of view, but theirs as well? ----------- Indeed! However lately I've been able to just not care about their POV. I dunno it really depends on the conversation/situation. If they're being a jerk, then I will assert myself no matter what. Otherwise it's hard for me to state my own opinions. Does it make it difficult to express your own feelings sometimes because you already know where the other person is coming from? Or to even be able to pinpoint your own feelings when you know they're in conflict with someone else's? ------------------------ The first one, yes. I'm still struggling with this. The 2nd one, no. I can still pinpoint them even when they're in conflict with others'. I figure we can each have our own differing feelings. Do you ever find yourself when, in conflict with another, moving more toward understanding them rather than pushing to make yourself understood? ------------- No! BAHAHAHA!! Do you ever feel resentful that others don't apply this same treatment to you? ------------ Well, since I said "no" then my answer to this is no! I feel resentful that they don't try to understand the entire situation. And under the libra influence, do you ever find that insisting on your own way is no more fair than giving in to others, so you find yourself locked in stalemates? ----------------- Once in awhile. Although secretly I almost always want my own way. So for me it is mroe a conflict between inner and outer dealings. LOL! Looks like maybe my Libra stellium isn't as strong as I assumed! I definitely don't even have much of a balance in conversations and relationships. IP: Logged |
Tuesday unregistered
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posted July 04, 2005 02:35 PM
YES to all! Libra asc,Gemini sun, cappy moonIP: Logged |
LibraSparkle unregistered
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posted July 04, 2005 02:51 PM
Libra Sun, Mercury, and Pluto. Neptune in the 7th (in Sag).Do you ever feel like it's difficult to assert yourself with others because you can always see not only your point of view, but theirs as well? ~Not so much. I can typically see both sides, but this doesn't necessarily stop me from asserting myself. Especially if the person is having trouble opening their mind to my perspective. Does it make it difficult to express your own feelings sometimes because you already know where the other person is coming from? Or to even be able to pinpoint your own feelings when you know they're in conflict with someone else's? ~Not really. If I know where another person is coming from, it usually makes it that much easier to choose the words I need to help them to see where I'm coming from. Do you ever find yourself when, in conflict with another, moving more toward understanding them rather than pushing to make yourself understood? ~A little. I usually try to understand, but I don't usually let myself lose site of being understood. Do you ever feel resentful that others don't apply this same treatment to you? ~Nah. And under the libra influence, do you ever find that insisting on your own way is no more fair than giving in to others, so you find yourself locked in stalemates? ~Nah. Its not usually that that brings on the stalemates. Its the fact that I can't make a friggin' choice to save my life! IP: Logged | |