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suzyque
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posted July 05, 2005 02:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just curious if anyone had any idea as to whether sun sign aquarians were more unpredictable, detached , odd or wacky as compared to rising sign aquarians?

I suppose the other elements of your chart could add to or lessen this but i was just wondering if anyone had noticed whether one was more aquarian than the other. If that makes any sense at all.

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Tranquil Poet
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posted July 05, 2005 02:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the sun is way more detached.


Put it this way. An aquarian wouldn't know what love was......even if it bit them in the arse.


Stay away from anyone who has aquarius in there chart. They are cold hearted beasts.

No offense....just being honest.


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sassygrrrl
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posted July 05, 2005 03:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say that it is the Aquarian Suns who are more detached. Because a rising sign is just how a person appears, as opposed to how they really are, which would be the Sun.

I have Aquarius Rising (w/ Virgo Sun) and I don't think I'm detached at all. I probably appear that way 99% of the time (lol) but underneath it all I'm really extremely emotionally involved 24-7. Whereas all the Aquarian Suns I have ever known (including my late grandfather) are extremely detached people.

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Mama Mia
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posted July 05, 2005 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua Suns wins hands down then again it depends on some aspects in their chart.
Like if they have A Pisces moon or Merc,Venus
or Mars they can be intuned to their feelings and other ppl's too. I am a Pisces Sun and my moon,merc,venus and Asc is in Aqua had it not been for my sun though I would not aware of my feelings. I do show detachment as other ppl have told me...

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted July 05, 2005 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarians are just misunderstood! As is my understanding

They are detatched but I don't think it's the same as being cold or not knowing what love is although I'm sure there are a few people who don't.
Any Aquarians I know will sometimes seem to stare right through you or look at you like they really are looking AT you, and not in a nice way, but they aren't thinking anything horrible about you! They're probably wondering what's on tv that night or trying to remember the ending of that book they read recently...etc etc
I'm pretty sure this is the case. You might go a while thinking they hate you, then one day it'll be "Hey, so and so, how are you? Did you hear that story about....(random tangent)"

Dunno... this might just be my experience... Don't know any aqua risings...

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LILYGIRL
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posted July 05, 2005 03:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, there is definitely a difference between the two Aquarius placements--sun and rising.

I almost married a guy with Aquarius sun, moon and mercury. Yes. Unbelievably but true and it was an excruciating roller coaster. He was brilliant, shockingly good looking and frequently cold. He also could explode. I am a Gemini (O degrees) with a very traditional classic TAURUS in VENUS (5th House). So despite all my gemini stuff (mercury) and aries mars even I was heartbroken alot. He was sexually very experienced and very very emotionally detached unless he was ticked off or sad. I was a virgin and an optimist from the word go. Of course, we were friends first and he always seemed more turned on by the mind more than anything else. It was a BIG clash but the biggest was that distance and penguin shrug you off coldness.

I can do Aquarius in other planets (mercury, even venus can be okay) because sometimes you get the intellectual, smart person, calm and pleasant without that wall.

I have a male friend who is Pisces with Aquarius moon and mercury. He comes across from quiet, mannerable and detached, but is unbelievably different when you get in his soul. He is also overtly more sensitive, sort of sweet in a goofy don't hurt me kind of way. His sense of humor ricochets between stupid wacked silly and supremely witty.

I have seen good "Water" break down and gush over detached Air but maybe not in the Aquarius SUN placement.

Oh BTW --the Aquarius Sun Guy is 45 and never married. The Pisces with the Aquarius moon and mercury friend is like me-- married 14 years.

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Touchstone
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posted July 05, 2005 04:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two good friends of mine are both Sun in Aquarius.

The one with moon in Aquarius too is wacky but kind of a lovable rogue. Wow, the surreal and freaky conversations we have - excellent rapport there! He's also quite shy and has a wistful slant to him. I don't know his rising sign unfortunately but would plump for a water sign if I had to guess. He confided in me that he was still single and very unhappy about it (We've only recently got back in touch after ten years of doing our own thing - a nice example of Air sign detachment I guess - though we still had loads to talk about as though we'd last seen each other yesterday).

The other Aquarian sun is also a very good friend of mine and there again we talk about the weirdest topics. He, too, is single though unlike friend #1 he says he's not fussed about chasing girls. He likes his gadgets, PC and DVD collection too much!

The closest Aquarian rising I know is my brother (sun Leo) and he is a dead ringer for Professor Stephen Hawking - lol it's true! I'm talking looks and how clever he is upstairs. My brother is amazingly detached and geeky. He lives alone and has no desire to settle down with a mate.

Sorry, this doesn't really answer the question who is more detached but in my experience I'd give the detachment medal to my brother. I don't think it's a fair contest though as he also has Aspergers Syndrome which I know explains a lot about his idiosyncrasies.

Both sun sign Aquarian friends are more willing to go out of their way to seek friendship and companionship though again neither has ever had a close relationship (both in their thirties now) and I've never seen them get emotional about anything so I guess they are somewhat detached from their emotions. Bless em! I do like the way they treat me like one of the boys I get on great with them, being Gemini. Airheads the lot of us.

Touchstone

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suzyque
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posted July 05, 2005 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well these are all really good replies. It does seem as if the sun wins out with aquarius.

The reason i was asking this question is because i am aquarius rising and i have come to realize that i am extremley commitment phobic. Lately when i meet someone i like i start to get freindly with them and as soon as they start showing a real interest in return i freak out start ignoring them.
or i will do something to make them not want to be with me.

I have such an intense fear of being suffocated by another person. I can't seem to get past it.

I think i have always had trouble maintaining relationships, but ever since my last boyfriend who was a very intense, jealous and possesive scorpio, i can't even seem to get to the point of actually starting a relationship. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get past this?

P.S. It probably doesn't help that my moon is square my ascendant and oppossed my venus.

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suzyque
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posted July 05, 2005 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well these are all really good replies. It does seem as if the sun wins out with aquarius.

The reason i was asking this question is because i am aquarius rising and i have come to realize that i am extremley commitment phobic. Lately when i meet someone i like i start to get freindly with them and as soon as they start showing a real interest in return i freak out start ignoring them.
or i will do something to make them not want to be with me.

I have such an intense fear of being suffocated by another person. I can't seem to get past it.

I think i have always had trouble maintaining relationships, but ever since my last boyfriend who was a very intense, jealous and possesive scorpio, i can't even seem to get to the point of actually starting a relationship. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get past this?

P.S. It probably doesn't help that my moon is square my ascendant and oppossed my venus.

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suzyque
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posted July 05, 2005 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well these are all really good replies. It does seem as if the sun wins out with aquarius.

The reason i was asking this question is because i am aquarius rising and i have come to realize that i am extremley commitment phobic. Lately when i meet someone i like i start to get freindly with them and as soon as they start showing a real interest in return i freak out start ignoring them.
or i will do something to make them not want to be with me.

I have such an intense fear of being suffocated by another person. I can't seem to get past it.

I think i have always had trouble maintaining relationships, but ever since my last boyfriend who was a very intense, jealous and possesive scorpio, i can't even seem to get to the point of actually starting a relationship. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get past this?

P.S. It probably doesn't help that my moon is square my ascendant and oppossed my venus.

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Battle of Evermore
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posted July 05, 2005 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Battle of Evermore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I'm such a cold hearted beast! Woe unto unfortunate soul who is tracigally fated to cross my cursed path!

I'm sooo bloody misunderstood!

Ok...I'm done now.

Btw, I think ASC signs are part of the personality, as well as the way you look. I think it affects everything in your life, it does for me without a doubt!

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Tranquil Poet
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posted July 05, 2005 06:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I think of an aquarian. I think of the cold and the dark.

It's frightening knowing people like that even roam this earth.


*Shivers.

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted July 05, 2005 06:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my last relationship (before this aries) was with an aqua sun , aqua/cap moon, right on the cusp, and i couldnt tell which, there were two diff charts with the diff moons in the two diff websites i put it into.

anyhow cap moon isnt really known for gushing confessions of love either so not too diametrically opposite of a placement u know,

i would say Aqua suns are more detached also, although this guy wasnt detached per say but just too slow and kind of a commitment phobe. He knew his market value -- very good looking, well off, charming, the whole nine yards, which was a problem because I think he felt he needed to explore and find the BEST perfect ideal mate before he settled. Even uptil now he IMs me and I know that he regrets taking things slow with me coz I was the best girl he could get. Even when we were together he'd admit I Was everything and more he had ever imagined, too good for him, etc etc but still had problems committing.

Now this is no rocket science to me, if you find your IDEAL mate and love them to death, and I really believe that he loved me but couldnt admit or express it, then WHATS THE PROBLEM PAL?? seems like indecision to me.

My scorp moon and venus in aries put their feet down. I got the heeeyllllllll outta there before he could say, lets make love in the closet tonight... pulled an aqua thing or two on the aqua himself. I know im his 'unforgettable' (refer to soul unions thread). Hes mine too but what can I do, I Cant take this kind of emotional abuse, and in my opinion, detaching yourself and sending mixed signals, delaying and ignoring, these are emotional abuse in a relationship.

It is always unintentional. I would lie if I said he is not a sweetheart. Everything about him is very genuine, sincere, honest and caring. But love doesnt see to be a part of his vocabulary. Major problem.

Love
SG

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LeylaLeFay
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posted July 06, 2005 09:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tranquil Poet-

My grandmother and I have identical Aquarius birthdays, and when we get fed up with a man mistreating us, we're fed up.

Just b/c an Aqua woman refuses to be a man's doormat, and wisely packs her bags doesn't mean she's heartless. It just means she has self respect.

By your quote, I see you expect a woman to be the more emotional sex, and thus pushovers.

"A woman's head is always influenced by heart; but a man's heart by his head."
-Lady Marguerite Blessington

No wonder Aqua women baffle you!

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DayDreamer
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posted July 06, 2005 09:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Big ups LeylaLeFay!!

quote:
Just b/c an Aqua woman refuses to be a man's doormat, and wisely packs her bags doesn't mean she's heartless. It just means she has self respect.

Too True! When's your birthday?

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LeylaLeFay
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posted July 06, 2005 10:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx DayDreamer. January 24. Both of us.

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LeylaLeFay
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posted July 06, 2005 10:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a better quote for you, Poet-

"One of the things about equality is not that you be treated equally to a man; but that you treat yourself equally to the way you treat a man."
-- Marlo Thomas

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DayDreamer
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posted July 06, 2005 10:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kewl...not too many January Aquas. Mines on the 30th of Jan

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LeylaLeFay
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posted July 06, 2005 10:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DayDreamer- It's the week of genius, they say.

Poet- I scored nearly perfect on my Emotional IQ test. Lets see you beat a 136!

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Tranquil Poet
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posted July 06, 2005 10:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was talking about both the men and women. Durf.


I ain't no damn lesbian.


Poet- I scored nearly perfect on my Emotional IQ test. Lets see you beat a 136!

WTF are u talking about?

Wierdo.

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DayDreamer
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posted July 06, 2005 10:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Week of the Genius...haha!...maybe not for this Aqua, or at least not with emotional intelligence...I scored the lowest on LL!! Top that TP! Ha

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sthenri
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posted July 06, 2005 11:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I differ, I have Uranus trine Sun and I am very attached, and I like an Aquarius right now with Aquarius rising and he is anything but detached. Every man I have met who was mushy and attached was an Aquarius with Venus in Pisces.

I dated a Gemini with Taurus Moon and Venus in Cancer, Pisces Rising
Tranquil Poet,
and he was the coldest most unaffectionate man I ever met, who admitted he was incapable of love.

I think it depends on the Aqua, and how much earth influence there is, houses and planets. Earth makes you attached.

But I have met really cold hearted Cancers, and Libras, and super sweet Capricorns so it just depends on how hard you want to commit and be loved. Once an Aqua has been married and divorced and had a few children, it changes.

Just my two cents,

I wouldn't want an untried one,

Natasha

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LeylaLeFay
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posted July 06, 2005 11:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poet- Lesbian? When did I make a pass at you?

You stated Aquarius have no emotions, thus I brought up the emotional IQ test. (duh!)

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Planet_Soul
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posted July 06, 2005 11:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its been my humble experience that Linda's right when she states in Love Signs that the Aqua man is forever haunted by the imabe of the first woman he's ever loved. I dated an Aqua back in the days for quite a long time, an awesome listener and smooth talker. His first love dumped him because she was tired of his love for weed. Anyhow, we drifted off and three months later his first love suddenly wanted him back and now they are married with kids.

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Tranquil Poet
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posted July 07, 2005 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini with Taurus Moon and Venus in Cancer, Pisces Rising.

I am a gemini with taurus moon and cancer rising and venus in taurus. It is very different.


Wow he must have had some bad aspects in his chart. Yikes!

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