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Topic: Using Your Sign As An Excuse?
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WaterNymph
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posted July 10, 2005 07:52 PM
 
Why do it????  I mean…that’s not what astrology is about right?? Then why do I hear ( even in LL ) people use their Sun as a reason to do something negative.
Sometimes it’s ok…my Gem friend constantly blames rushing things on her sign. But there are worse things… OK I can’t give examples because that’s sign bashing - but you know what I mean right??
It’s happened several times, and it really annoys me.
I don’t go round manipulating people and messing with their heads, and then say “ hey I’m a Piscean…what did you expect?”
Or lie left right and centre - and when asked why, my reply is “oh you couldn’t handle the truth, and I hate confrontations“ and then shrug. No way…it’s annoying - it’s validating something negative. So why do it??
Why say it’s ok to be abrasive, controlling, aggressive, stubborn, manipulative, pushy, insensitive or anything else that’s negative?? Or perhaps those of you who do this, don’t see it as negative. IP: Logged |
shop22much
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posted July 10, 2005 07:58 PM
I def understand what youre saying Water...a lot of people do that, and use astrology to validate their bad traits, me on the other hand have used astrology to improve the negative parts i dislike...i am working on it, and im so glad i found astrology because i was so blind to my flaws that were hurting people around me..esp me.IP: Logged |
Tranquil Poet
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posted July 10, 2005 08:19 PM
I know a gemini that uses her sign as an excuse for being a sl*t.------------------
Gemini sun, Cancer rising, Taurus moon
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I would fly to the moon and back...If you'll be my baby. IP: Logged |
ScotScorp
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posted July 10, 2005 08:25 PM
WN: I do not use my own Scorpio sign to explain any behavior of mine. I do get the occasional "she's all sexy tonite" or "she's crackin' gutter talk again" comments, and people that might know my Sun sign might say "hey, she's a Scorpio, DUH!". Do I care? No. Yes, some people that don't KNOW me have said... "Oh, better watch out! She's friendly, and that's not typical Scorpio! She'll come in for the kill when your back is turned!". Come on. (Really...I enjoy that kinda stuff face-to-face!)  Definate turn-off.
IMHO, anyone who lays out someone's "supposed" characteristics from a Sun sign alone is an Astrology wanna-be expert. Not someone I wanna talk to about the zodiac. In fact, these days, if I ask what their moon is, and they don't know what I'm talking about, I change the subject. I do see what my Sun, Moon and Asc together make me, and how their house placements influence me. It's an awareness. (And explains why everyone always guesses my Sun sign as Leo!) Still no excuse for ANY misbehavior of mine. I look at other people's Sun signs as what I can "work with". Maybe I can find a way to approach them better, or communicate w/them easier. Yes, that, in a way, is using a Sun Sign's general characteristics, but not to MY own good. I definately do not bash them or judge them on their Sun Sign, or even all ten of their planets if I happen to have access to the info. I have a hard enough time keeping track of my own! I remember when I first started posting here last year. I came looking for info on Saturn (because it's been a VERY nasty Saturn in Cancer for moi) and found enough content to keep me interested. I know that the only person I had bashed on here was one of my brothers..and when I brought up the topic, I brought up all three of the big signs.. Sun/Moon/Asc. Then another post explained how I'm communicating w/him w/this awareness of how he really "is". It's great to know this info, but when he does crap to me, or when I do crap to him... it's not a Scorpio or Virgo thing w/me...ever. It's more if I really wanna use it as an excuse... Then of course, I can always outstare him... hhmmmm (runs off on stereotypical tangent) Angela
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Scorpio/Leo/Leo "All things are bound together. All things connect." Chief Seattle IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
Newflake Posts: 8
From: ON Canada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2005 09:21 PM
Years ago, I met a woman who was dating the brother of my boyfriend at the time.
We got to talking about Astrology, and she is a Scorpio like myself.
She got excited about all these negative things..
She was like.. "Omigosh, you are a Scorpio? Are you like insanely mad at things, and jealous?" etc etc.. she went on this negative characteristic rant, about our 'commonalities', and I was just so.... I dunno what the word is.. disgusted? I guess let down.... about her being this low person, and her being almost excited about it....
I told her I use my understandng of my Sun sign to try to recognize possible inherent behaviour I don't llike and then overcome it. Not as an excuse to be like that because I am supposed to.
We didn't talk much after that.She is now married to the same guy, and he is MISERABLE! I guess she didn't choose to learn to make her own character. She just validated a need to be horrid because she could. IP: Logged |
MoonDuchess88
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posted July 11, 2005 12:35 AM
I wish my father knew more about astrology....IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2005 12:52 AM
There's a lot of water in this thread. quote:
Why say it’s ok to be abrasive, controlling, aggressive, stubborn, manipulative, pushy, insensitive or anything else that’s negative??
Perhaps because these are inherently human traits. I don't know the answer to this post. IP: Logged |
aries-chick
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posted July 11, 2005 03:26 AM
Hi WaterNymph,I never understand that and it bothers me as well. I think people should face up to their negatives and aknowledge that it's their own fault not their sun sign. Your sun sign.. in fact your whole chart doesn't excuse certain types of behaviour. I think the proper way to use it is to help, to learn more about yourself, to help others learn more about themselves..not to stereotype yourself and others and use that stereotype as an excuse for your own negative behaviour or to judge others on their behaviour. I think it's just as bad when ppl say it about other ppl. Like .."oh she wants to get revenge on her bf for cheating on her...such a scorpio thing to do" or something along those lines.. because there's too many different ppl in the world.. there would be other Scorpio girls who wouldn't seek revenge..and there would also be a lot of other girls with other sun signs who *would* feel the same way if they were cheated on. It's taking generalisation too far. i find it silly and useless.
To those ppl I'd say..whatever negative trait you are trying to pin on your sign.. there are thousands of people out there of your sign who do not have that negative trait.. and there are also thousands of people out there of a different sign who DO..so tough cookies IP: Logged |
WaterNymph
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posted July 11, 2005 06:20 AM
Hey guys, thx for replying  This is all because my friend called me up last night, and made some stupid comment about being a Piscean  I wanted to run to her house and hit her with her phone. She had the nerve to use her sign as an excuse - which is MY sign too…and I don’t do that. What hurt more…was that I got her into astrology. I’m glad you guys know what I mean…after all “the stars incline but do not compel”.
We are in control of our actions…and are responsible for them. btw I get what you mean with the Scorpio thing - I never do that…but maybe it’s because I’m water. That and, the two Scorps I know both have Sag Moons. And trust me, they act like Sagittarians. So yeah, you definitely have to look at the Moon…which is what I always do.  IP: Logged | |
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