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sthenri
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posted July 14, 2005 10:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So spill it,
which of you say it first?? or like to say it all? I love to say I love you, to cats, dogs, babies, parents, children, men, women, everyone. It drives the men in my life crazy especially my Aqua because he says it cheapens the word??

True? Do I owe the people who truly love me to keep my love loyal? Is it disloyal to tell someone else you love him or her? why is it okay to fall in and out of love in a month but not okay to say it first? What are your experiences knowflakes, and don't forget to include your chart or at least sun/moon/venus signs.

Thanks, Natasha
Taurus/6th house
Cancer Moon/8th
Aries /Venus/5th

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Battle of Evermore
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posted July 14, 2005 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Battle of Evermore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel about like your Aqua does with "I love you"(at least between couples). I rarely say it unless someone else says it first.


Sun Virgo 7
Moon Leo 7
Venus Leo 7
Mars Libra 8
ASC Aqua

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BlueRoamer
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posted July 14, 2005 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo just cause they wanna hear it back.

Pisces cause they love everyone.

Sag cause they really think they do in that moment.

Libra cause they're in love with love.

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nove731
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posted July 14, 2005 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate saying it to anyone not inside my family. I say it all the time to my cats, though. :-P I don't like saying it much though. I try to avoid saying it to my extended family.

Sun in Aries (7th House)
Moon in Sagittarius (3rd House)
Venus in Pisces (6th House)
Ascendant in Virgo (Mercury in Taurus in the 8th House)
Mars in Aquarius (5th House)

I'm "saying-I-love-you" phobic. I hate it when people get emotional on me. I don't know how to react.

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DayDreamer
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posted July 14, 2005 11:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL BR! Those are good ones.

Have anything for Aquarius...oh wait...this is about love...nevermind!

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted July 14, 2005 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I hate it when people get emotional on me. I don't know how to react.

omg that 'get emotional' phrase just cracked me up. being a Gem/Scorp I really dont deal with that very well either. If its someone I like/love, sure but if its someone with whom I wouldnt get emotional, then I really feel uncomfy with them getting emotional around me (my mother, my boss, etc)!

but to answer Natashas question,

I feel love very quickly and fall in love too, but I dont ever like saying I love you first. I dont think its coz of my signs i think its coz being a girl I expect the guy to take the initiative. If a guy cant take that initiative then unfortunately i have to sit on my feelings till they go away. I never ever express those words first, even if i know they are reciprocated. I just dont think that its very....wise? feminine? definitely not in line with my personality.

I agree with the Aqua a bit on cheapning the word, for me love is v sacred not just anything, and I dont really like it when its used in a cutesy sense , for things that u dont really love in that intense way, coz ive only loved one kind of love, its been very very intense which makes it both difficult to express as well as sacred and rare.

however i do need someone to say it to me first becoz although i may not say it i do feel it v v deeply . The aries said it and im with him, the aqua didnt and im not with him

Love
SG

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nove731
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posted July 14, 2005 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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omg that 'get emotional' phrase just cracked me up. being a Gem/Scorp I really dont deal with that very well either. If its someone I like/love, sure but if its someone with whom I wouldnt get emotional, then I really feel uncomfy with them getting emotional around me (my mother, my boss, etc)!

Hahahahaha, If someone gets all emotional on me, I'm not sure what to do. I freeze up, and I'm like, "Uhhhhhh......what?" hahahaha, I usually end up playing the councellor. Yay? Hah. I don't like getting emotional in front of other people, though. It embarasses me. :-P

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Battle of Evermore
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posted July 15, 2005 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Battle of Evermore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, I remember once when I acctually did that "Uhhh.... what? *mumbles in bewilderment*" bit. those were my acctual words. It was kinda pathetic on my part.

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AcousticGod
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posted July 15, 2005 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wouldn't this be more of an aspect thing than a sign thing?

I'm a Cap, and I probably buck the trend and say it first. I have a few idealistic, romantic aspects in my chart, though.

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lalalinda
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posted July 15, 2005 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
an impulsive venus (aries, sag)

or changeable water prominate (not Scorpio)

or a strong Venus/Neptune or Moon/Neptune aspect.

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted July 15, 2005 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey nove!
I know a guy with similar placements to you and although he seems like a very love love loving person (is this the venus in Pisces 'love for all' thing again??) I think he would freak out if someone did the ol' emotional thing on him. Or at least if I did. I, on the other hand, am the embarrasing person who will say I love you to people. Except I do it more cryptically, like........
Guy: Yeah, I really like that band, too!
Me: Wow! I love you!
*Translation*
Guy: Yeah, I really like that band, too!
Me: No, I really do love you!!!!

haha, so yes probably me... I'm a Virgo.

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pixelpixie
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posted July 15, 2005 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lynx
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posted July 15, 2005 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lynx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a quadruple Aqua, I spent many years dealing with the fact that others use the word so lightly. I have a hard time even saying it to my own family. When I say, "I love you", I say it after I truly, truly feel so. It bothers me that men I often fall for are so used to being "loved" by everybody that when I tell them I love them, they don't realize how serious I'm being. I hate having to clarify the fact. Makes me feel like crap.

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted July 15, 2005 03:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lalalinda,

i have an impulsive venus (aries, 7th house?)

water prominent (but its Scorpio), not changeable as you said,

and venus trine neptune,

so i guess i score 1 of ur 3, so you would say im not so comfortable saying i love u?

i was think that expressing the words i love you would have to do with:

1. sun-moon aspects (Ease with ones own emotions),

2. moon/mercury, and what house is mercury in (1st? 7th? very extroverted and confident expressing love)

3. if a female, where is her mars? (does she expect the male to express first?)

if a male, where is venus? (how aggressive does he like his females to be in self expression?)

for ex., as a female my Mars is in Gemini and the 9th--I like my men intellectual, and to be powerful with words, not just blabber endlessly the way i do So, its easy to see why I Want the words coming from an intellectual male-because when they do, they would mean very much.

My aries has Venus in Aqua. He likes me to be a bit detached, give him his freedom, but also express kindness and love nonverbally, which I think Aquas do rather well (they have a problem verbalizing the words I love you).

The ex aqua had Venus in Aries, and I think he needed a woman more aggressive and willing to take the reins, at the same time his sun/moon aqua wanted to be in control of pacing the relationship...so there were probs with that.

Anyone relate to these criteria, or lala's ? How do you and your lovers rate on this? Do you think its valid?

Btw , everyone knows it prolly but im a Gem/Scorp with Venus in Aries.

Love
SG

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geminstone
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posted July 15, 2005 03:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no problem saying I love... However, I will never do so, unless I really do. I was drawn to my Husband, instantly... but, not 'Love at first sight', instant. Although, he is quite beautiful to my eyes After 2 1/2 years of quiet, admiration... yeah, you could mistake it for stalking but, I know it as anything but... anyway, he finally, took notice of me! Yet, it was he, that first announced he had fallen... and, even as he finished, it was a while, before I was certain that, indeed I had fallen as well and, told him so. Love is amazing and incredibly powerful to me. But, it whispers and I think that, the world creates such noise in it's chaos, that it gets if not misunderstood, then totally drowned out. I will not say that I love if there exists doubt. It holds far too much importance, to me. When love is certain, it just flows right out and, even saying so, is done without thought;noise.
Sun in Gemini( Taurian 7th)
Moon in Pisces(4th)
Asc Scorpio
Venus in Taurus(7th)
conjunct retro Merc in Taurus(7th)

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posted July 15, 2005 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Libra cause they're in love with love.

That's the most powerful sign in my chart. Interesting.

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Moon conjunct Pluto
The conjunction of the Moon and Pluto produces an intense romantic nature. You seek relationships with those who feel as deeply and as tenaciously as you do. You are a very possessive and demanding person, rarely impulsive or casual. It's hard to satisfy your emotional needs for the perfect relationship because you are so idealistic and demanding. These traits often extend to friendships, as well. Because of this your friends are few but extremely close. You are a hard person to live with because you require so much of those to whom you are near. You can be tyrannical and alienating, at times.

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Venus conjunct Neptune
The conjunction of Venus and Neptune adds a spiritual tone to your affections. You are impressionable, and have a deep and broad capacity for emotional rapport. A vivid imagination and fertile unconscious mind serve as aids to any artistic talents in music or art. Avoid any tendencies you may have to be the impractical dreamer. You're very much the true romantic idealist.

Merc, Venus and Neptune all in the 7th.

I can be a bit impulsive in the initial excitement of a relationship. I am in love with being in love...but I am not a person who is constantly with someone just to be with someone.

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MysticScorpio
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posted July 15, 2005 09:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can tell you what sign doesn't say it first...Scorpio.

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maroon_flower
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posted July 15, 2005 09:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have no qualms about saying it first... provided I am deeply in love..and that the guy in question has shown in other indirect ways that he feels the same.

I understand how sometimes, a guy may feel more afraid/vulnerable than me in expressing himself.

Besides, I'd rather know for sure how he feels and get on with it..than to linger on for months in limbo.. does he love me..does he love me not...does he love me... etc.

And even if he..crushingly... doesn't feel the same, well, at least I had the guts!! Tommorow will be a new day!

Sun in intense, mysterious Scorpio
Moon in dreamy, lovey-dovey Pisces
Venus in playful, optimistic Sagittarius
Mars in woo-woo, go get 'em Aries

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sweetlibra
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posted July 15, 2005 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Libra with moon in Aqua.
Venus & Mars in Scorpio.
Never had a problem in saying "I love You"
Even if i didnt say, others will know anyway

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WaterNymph
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posted July 15, 2005 09:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lmao @ Pisces loving everyone Yes we do
I can say that word easily if I don’t mean it.

OK don’t hate or judge me knowflakes…buuuuuuuuuut - I’m the kind of person that…if you said I love you, I’d only say it back…just to not hurt your feelings and then run away

I know, I know…bad bad bad - but I can’t help it. What am I supposed to say? NOOOOO!! YOU STUPID!
I can’t - it goes against every compassionate bone in my body…I don’t like to see people in pain…and I hate causing pain.

Linda said it perfectly

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The Piscean motto is “promise anything, and get out of it later” may sound deceptive; yet it’s a philosophy that keeps the Fish young and tranquil - and off the psychiatrics couch. It also allows Pisceans to conserve their energy, thereby enabling them to remain composed enough to listen to everybody else’s troubles for hours on end

It’s the only time I’d consider lying - and I’m soooo going to hell for it

Pisces/Virgo/Asc,Venus & Mars in Aries
If I’m going down…the Aries in my chart is going down with me

Venus aspects
Conj Mars
Trine Jupiter
Trine Uranus
Square Neptune

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Saturn's Child
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posted July 15, 2005 10:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini/Sun
Cappy/Rising
Aqua/Moon
Venus/Taurus

I have no problem at all telling my children, grandchildren, or my Dolly Dog, "I love you." That is not so with a relationship with a man. The fellow that I am currently involved with says, "I love you" all the time (Pisces sun, Sag rising, Leo moon. When he does, I usually say it back...but not always. I rarely volunteer it. Has never come easy for me with a man. Must have something to do with my childhood.

Most Libras...not all...say it very quickly and easily, I think.

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cancerrg
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posted July 15, 2005 02:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have been in love twice , never used those words . never actually needed to .

i feel expressions, my eyes, my silence said everything that was to be said .

in second case it was the cancer who actually said it but my feeling is it was more b'cos of her age that she said so ( we have a big age diff) if she was my age , i am sure she would not have required the words .

so my feeling is , cancers are not the one to say it first or rather very quickly.

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cancerrg
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posted July 15, 2005 02:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh , and my

sun is in -cancer 3rd
moon is in -taurus 1st
merc in - cancer 4th
venus in - leo 5th

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lovely*
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posted July 15, 2005 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LEO says it first unless they've been hurt too many times.

My Leo Sun/Venus (in the 1st) hubby said it 1 week after we began dating. I didn't say it back until a few months down the road. But I felt love for him, I just wanted to be sure I knew I loved him before saying it.

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nove731
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posted July 15, 2005 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hey nove!
I know a guy with similar placements to you and although he seems like a very love love loving person (is this the venus in Pisces 'love for all' thing again??) I think he would freak out if someone did the ol' emotional thing on him. Or at least if I did. I, on the other hand, am the embarrasing person who will say I love you to people. Except I do it more cryptically, like........
Guy: Yeah, I really like that band, too!
Me: Wow! I love you!
*Translation*
Guy: Yeah, I really like that band, too!
Me: No, I really do love you!!!!

haha, so yes probably me... I'm a Virgo.


Haha, I think I hate to say it because...I always want to seem composed. I don't like being seen as vulnerable. Or ridiculous, or anything. My silly Virgo rising, I guess. That or Aries sun. Hahaha

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