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DayDreamer
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posted July 17, 2005 10:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today marks Saturn’s first full day in Leo.

For those of you who can’t get enough information on this transit...here are a few more interpretations of what’s in store...
http://www.astrologycom.com/2005yearahead.html
http://astrologyguild.com/saturninleo.htm
http://www.chrissieblaze.com/articles.shtml
http://www.starurania.com/forecast.htm
http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0006402.HTM
http://www.panplanet.com/articles/satleo.htm
http://www.astrostar.com/Saturn-in-Leo.htm
http://www.guidingstar.com/SaturnInLeo.html
http://www.artcharts.com/aspects/saturn/inLeo.html
http://www.nyspirit.com/Issue132/article4.html
http://www.mmacycles.com/artsatleo.htm

Please point out anything that you feel is a reoccurring theme from all sites, or anything else you feel is important to share. Thanks.

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nove731
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posted July 17, 2005 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great. It's parking it's ass in my 11th house until Senior year. *dies*

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MoonDuchess88
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posted July 17, 2005 11:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's not necessary a bad thing Nove, saturn will teach you to know you're REAL friends and weed out all fake phonies

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posted July 17, 2005 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your comment is pretty damn funny Nove...

so true MD88...I'll sign up for that!


kisses,
Laura

btw...saturn for me is in my 8th house

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nove731
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posted July 18, 2005 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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that's not necessary a bad thing Nove, saturn will teach you to know you're REAL friends and weed out all fake phonies

Pshhh, I just wanna be social. :-P

Apparently such a transit makes you less social. *sigh*

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Hexxie
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posted July 18, 2005 07:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey! Been reading tons of Saturn stuff and I want more! I'm trying to find a bit of reading that talks about Saturn in Leo in the 2nd House (that's where mine is). All 3 together. Anyone know where to go? TY!

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DayDreamer
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posted July 18, 2005 09:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Basics

Transiting Saturn in the 1st house = you enter a new 30 year cycle that defines the new you as a person. In the process it defines your appearance and personality.
2nd house= defines your resources, money, love, values etc.
3rd house= defines communication and immediate environment, community, brothers and sisters.
4th house= defines home and core issues.
5th house =children and creativity.
6th house=defines your work or health.
7th house=defines partnerships, business and personal.
8th house =defines partnership resources, insurance or taxes.
9th house= defines philosophy and or education.
10th house =defines career, or new labels.
11th house =defines goals and friendships.
12th house= defines the subconscious, and prepares you for Saturn to transit the 1st.


Check out 26taurus's post...cafeastrology talks about this transit through the houses. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/005912.html


And here are a few more.. http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/transitsSaturn18.4.htm http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/BookTransitsBook2.htm

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Hexxie
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posted July 19, 2005 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DayDreamer~ Thx for those links. I really connected with the bobmarksastrologer one! That one is definitely bookmarked

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ScotScorp
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posted July 19, 2005 11:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nove: Saturn just marched out of my Cancer 11th house.

I wouldn't say that I lost any friends or became anti-social. It seemed like more friendships that were "so-so" either got stronger or disappeared all together. My longtime close friends and I got closer as well. Not all that bad. Then, this Saturn's gonna be sitting on my 2 degree Leo Moon here soon....and THAT'S gonna be interesting!

I can't take any more Saturn!!! runs into the dark distance

Angela

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nove731
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posted July 20, 2005 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nove: Saturn just marched out of my Cancer 11th house.

I wouldn't say that I lost any friends or became anti-social. It seemed like more friendships that were "so-so" either got stronger or disappeared all together. My longtime close friends and I got closer as well. Not all that bad.


Eh, Saturn's already been in my 11th for a bit actually. And wow, I really hate being around people, lately.

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posted July 20, 2005 10:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To each his own, of course. Thought I'd shed some extra spotlight.

Angela

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DayDreamer
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posted July 23, 2005 02:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about people born in Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Scorpio?

Saturn represents “father figures”, “authorities”, “teachers”, “structures”, “limitations or restrictions”, “tests”, “discipline”, “work your way through”, “your reward is the work well done, not the trophee”, “patience”, “trust or distrust”, “judgments as in having good judgment or being judgmental”.

When Saturn enters the sign we were born into – here we think of all those born in Leo – we are brought back to ourself. A degree of identity crisis occurs where we need to redefine who we are from what we have become since Saturn’s last visit here. Often we become aware of a certain dissatisfaction or discontentment in the quality of our individual experience. Time to refresh or to weed our garden, sort of. It is not uncommon to feel a bit minimalist at that time. Lots of people find it helpful to go through their storage room and closets, to revisit what they have there that, perhaps, they forgot they owned. It is a good time to either give away or to do a garage sale. In discarding what is stagnant in material belongings, we also help what is stagnant within to find a new directions as well. A general feeling of rebirth or regeneration is likely to take place and off we go for another 29-30 cycle of evolution.

There must be some shedding of a kind or another during Saturn’s return on one’s natal Sun. Change is inevitable and endings give way to new beginning. When a person doesn’t recognize this as a necessary step of their own evolution, there could be resistance to change. Under Saturn’s influence resisting could cause great misery and suffering. Saturn is a planet of Moksha, a Sanskrit word meaning “renunciation to desires to reach enlightenment”. If we accept and detach from what is causing us misery, miraculously we find that a state of inner peace establishes itself causing the occurrence a the delicious spiritual power called “wisdom”.

At some point from July 16th, 2005, to September 2nd, 2007, Saturn will spend some time on the natal Sun of every Leo person on the planet! Indeed, it is another opportunity for you, Leo, to set the themes of who you really want to become and get busy acquiring these qualities during the 29-30 year cycle ahead. During the same period of time, Taurus, Aquarius, and Scorpio people will feel the grind as well.

Taurus had Saturn in their sign from June 1998 to April 2001. That’s when they started their 29-30 year cycle which now will come to its First Quarter. For Taurus it is an opportunity for re-adjustment and restructuring. In the light of what has happened so far in the pursuit of your goals you get a chance to refresh – through sustained efforts – what is right for you. What is not right will be indicated by tremendous resistance to move on as planned. “Weed your garden” and empower only what works.

Aquarius had Saturn in their sign from February 1991 to February 1994. For them this is “half way” into Saturn’s 29-30 year cycle. It is their time of climax when they can see in full light the result of what they have started then. This is a time of much awakening and maturity when they can reap the rewards of the experience acquired along the way. Now they understand better the value of pushing and working when if feels right, and to detach and let go when it is not fulfilling. Either they enjoy success or failure at this time, their priceless gift remains “experience!”, not only on the physical level of reality but also in the acquisition of self-knowledge. If they are facing success then there is great fertility in their projects; they can grow “branches” and expand meaningfully the themes of their journey.

Scorpio had Saturn in their sign from December 1982 to November 1985. For them Saturn forms its Last Quarter into the 29-30 year cycle. Last Quarters are equivalent to the Winter when nature goes to rest, or to the night when the body goes to sleep. It is a time to withdraw, to become the journey, to detach, to call upon a vision for the next cycle, it is considered the most spiritual part of the journey. One doesn’t feel as eager as at the beginning; “being there, done that” so to speak. If the choices made at the beginning of the cycle were accurate, the projects are sufficiently alive and healthy to continue existing in a way that gives more freedom and time to Scorpio so they can enjoy a deeper intimacy with themselves. If on the other hand they persisted against all odds in the pursuit of inaccurate choices, this could be a time when they find themselves empty handed. Yet, there is always the choice of Moksha (renunciation and detachment to obtain enlightenment).
http://astrologyguild.com/saturninleo.htm

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DayDreamer
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posted July 23, 2005 02:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today...

JUL 23 SUN IN LEO CONJOIN SATURN IN LEO - Self expression is taken very seriously at this time. Saturn can be oppressive and tiresome as well as a grounding and reliable presence in our lives. We are learning to work within limits and endure through obstacles. If you feel tired, take responsibility for your health and work at finding time to rest. If you have been all play and no work, maybe it's time to make a sincere effort to consolidate new plans.


JUL 22 - 23 SUN OPPOSE CHIRON
With Saturn in Leo in opposition aspect to Chiron in Aquarius, the collective urge to confront (opposition) political structures and corrupt leadership (Leo) and reform (Chiron) or reorganize conservative governments will be gaining momentum. The powers that be will somehow be made accountable for their actions. Transiting Chiron will be in Aquarius (humanitarian idealism) until the year 2011, when it enters Pisces. An interesting fact, President Abraham Lincoln was elected president when Chiron was in Aquarius and he fought diligently to free black slaves in the South
http://www.starurania.com/forecast.htm

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financechick
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posted July 24, 2005 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I came on here today looking for exactly this information.

Saturn moving to Leo marks the end of my first Saturn Return and believe me, it's been a doozy...the interesting thing is that although it marks the end of my Saturn return, I was born under the sign of Leo so I'm going to be feeling the affects of Saturn for another 2 years. I am quite sure I am already feeling it's affects.

If anyone can tell me some more specific things (specific to me based on my chart) I would really appreciate it. I have tried really hard to "go with the flow" of my Saturn return but I"m just not sure about how to handle almost 2 more years of Saturn in my birth sign.

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nove731
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posted July 24, 2005 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lmao. You know what I just realized? Saturn is Trining my Moon right now. That might explain the "go away" attitude I have toward people right now.

It also sextile's my Ascendant right now. Mhm.

But my Ascendant is in Virgo. So it's not that great of a Sextile.

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Azalaksh
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posted July 24, 2005 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hexxie ~

Here's a long read on Saturn in Taurus and/or Saturn in the 2nd House. It's from Liz Greene's "Saturn - A New Look At An Old Devil". This excerpt is about nSaturn but I bet you could find some useful info in here for tSaturn.....

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Saturn in Taurus and Saturn in the second house
The second house is traditionally that of acquisition and possessions. From it one may assess the individual's capacity to earn a livelihood, his attitude toward those things which he defines as security, and the manner in which his income is likely to be derived. This is a fixed and earthy house, and the emotional need of a secure foundation is suggested, a desire rather than the outcome of desire. All of the houses connected with the fixed signs appear to have some bearing on one's values, on the desire nature, and on instinctual reactions of a habitual kind. They have little bearing on events or objects. If this group of houses is considered as the reflection of a man's desire nature, it would appear that greater depth of meaning exists in relation to the second house and that it is not merely the house of possessions. Possessions are merely a simple and tangible form of satisfying desire.
The urge to possess something outside oneself and make it a permanent possession appears to be a collective need whether the desired "something" is a person, a value, a state of consciousness, or an automobile. It is then the man's possession, in a deeper sense than physical ownership, because he values it. It is of worth to him, and therefore it has meaning. That which is desired through the second house only applies to material things if these have value; and although the majority of people at present place the highest value on these things, it has not always been the case nor will it necessarily continue to be so as the collective consciousness of man develops.
The second house may apply as much to relationships as it does to money in the bank since possession of a valued object is often closely connected with what we define as love. In the end, however, the possession of worth which is truly a permanent possession can only be a quality within the individual himself. There is nothing else in life which is permanent and unalterable except those attributes which we term spiritual. Everything else may be lost, destroyed, taken away, or devalued. It seems that the desire for values, not only tangible but mental, emotional, and spiritual as well, is more representative of the second house than possession.
It is the definition of value—a nebulous and relative term—which becomes important when planets are located in the second house for the meaning or expression of each planet then becomes a value. Of all the planets only Saturn appears to have an exclusively material value, but as we have seen, this is deceptive because his function is to demonstrate the relativity of all tangible values. Through Saturn everything on the material plane takes on new meaning because it is seen as a symbol for an inner quality or state of being. Security may be defined very differently when viewed in this way.
The simplest reading of Saturn in the second house is fear of poverty, and certainly this placement frequently accompanies a childhood spent in want where the luxuries of material life, and sometimes even the necessities, are lacking. This is Saturn on his most literal level where he denies a material quality necessary to the individual's well-being so that later in life there is a constant need to fill the gap. We have all come into contact with the self-made man who has struggled from the bottom of the heap by his own dogged efforts and has finally succeeded in accumulating some money in the bank, a house, an automobile or two, and other symbols which society has taught him to interpret as security. Saturn in his most unconscious form is eminently conventional in these matters, and Saturn in Taurus as well as in the second house has a penchant for accepting as values only those which society accepts and therefore makes apparently stable. Yet the self-made man with a second house Saturn is often so frightened of losing what he has so laboriously acquired that he may not be able fully to enjoy what he has. He may be terrified of loss and display the remarkable facility—because he thinks about it so much—of attracting loss through his own bad judgment. He is frightened of the responsibility of ownership because he knows the pain of losing that which he owns, yet he is compulsively drawn toward collecting more and more. No amount is sufficient in the end to make him feel fully secure, and indeed he is not fully secure because forces larger than he can overturn his life and leave him bankrupt. He has invested wholly material things with value because he has never had them before and pays the price of trying to make an inner quality tangible.
There is another kind of pattern with Saturn in the second house which is outwardly opposite yet inwardly the same. This is the person who may have been perfectly comfortable as a child on the material plane yet who is denied a different kind of possession, a sense of inner values and of personal worth. One cannot blame this, or any other characteristic, wholly on the attitude of the parents, however, for the individual has chosen his environment in the first place and moreover would not be sensitive to certain values and not others if a similar note were not resonated within his own inner structure. So we will often see a person who, literally or symbolically, will sell himself for security because he has no other sense of values and in the end does not value himself. He judges himself and others by how much he has, not by what he is.
This kind of individual is often difficult to understand; for some of the most unpleasant Saturnian manifestations may accompany Saturn in Taurus or in the second house—not because the position is a "bad" one but because it tends to concur with obvious, tangible characteristics which are not easily hidden. To an unconscious person with this placement, the end often justifies the means, and avarice and greed may be very evident. The inner strength and self-sustenance which Saturn in his more conscious expression symbolises here may be apparently quite absent from the man's temperament, and he may lean heavily on others financially—the apparent opposite of our previously mentioned self-made man who will often rather starve than owe anybody anything. But these two extremes are the same psychological state for they both embody fear and the characteristic ambivalence of wanting and needing desperately yet attempting to reject the desired object. These states are both, in the end, phases of development, however, for either way the dependency is upon external values rather than inner ones, and Saturn the taskmaster will surely, at some point in the life, accompany experiences which teach the individual to shift his level of evaluation. He attracts these experiences himself because it is the desire of the total self to develop a sense of reality about values which is the intention, on a more esoteric level, of a second house Saturn.
There is another common manifestation of Saturn in the second house, and this is the individual who has denied all involvement with material things. This is overcompensation at work in a different direction. Like the man with Saturn in the eighth house—another fixed house which deals fundamentally with values and emotional attitudes—who cloaks his fear of deeper emotional and sexual encounter with a moral or religious reason why it would be sinful to do so, the man with Saturn in the second house frequently considers money as evil. He has a dim awareness of the fact that greed is as much a part of his own psyche as it is of others, but he cannot express tolerance toward his own humanity and therefore becomes intolerant of the apparent greed of others. He is frequently not merely content to be austere in his own life style. Instead he feels that it is his responsibility to criticise others for not following the same path because he cannot put his guilt to rest but also cannot confront himself. This is classic unconscious projection of the casebook kind: what we hate in others is unconsciously living within us.
This pattern of projection is extremely common with Saturn for he is the dark shadow of the bright, differentiated conscious personality, and he certainly includes some of our nastier and less attractive human qualities. These, however, are qualities which are not inherently evil; they have simply been outgrown or are not part of our conscious plan for development at any given time. It is only our harsh judgment of ourselves, based on other people's morality, that causes us to push these qualities into the unconscious where they form the shadowy figure of the Dweller on the Threshold. Psychic energy does not vanish but simply takes another channel, and with Saturn it is often that of projection—we do not see others as they are; rather we see in certain of their behaviour characteristics the reflection of our own negative qualities.
The sinfulness of worldly goods has always been the prerogative of the devout adherents of orthodox Christianity which has always had a difficult time in reconciling the opposites in a harmonious and constructive way; however, with the advent of a new age and the consequent emergence of new symbols and a new burst of growth in spiritual and psychic directions, the old values and concepts of God warring with the Devil, Lord of Matter, have appeared in a curious modern form. These values, which when put badly and stripped of their glamour are often of the "if I can't have it then you shouldn't either" variety, are now being coupled with political idealogies which have very little connexion with the real distribution of resources and opportunities. It would appear that projection still runs rampant among us, and it is fashionable once again to consider worldly goods as being synonymous with evil. It is no longer fashionable to consider sexual expression in this light because of the advent of psychoanalysis; but we have no similar revelation in the realm of commerce and material wealth. This trend may, however, be seen as the first rough and uncut demonstration of a fundamentally positive change toward a new sense of values.
The earthy signs are custodians for many layers of meaning; for when seen from the more esoteric point of view, matter is an expression of spirit which contains in symbolic guise the blueprint for mind, emotion, and the inner purpose for which the vehicle has been created. This is a more ambiguous but possibly more productive way of looking at matter and may be applied to Taurus and the second house. Following this thread is unquestionably like plunging into a labyrinth for what eventually emerges is that the second house has nothing to do with objects at all. The "pearl of great price" appears to lie at the heart of the labyrinth, but the persistence of a Taurean is required to reach it. The placement to find this central and unalterable value whose definition cannot be properly articulated but whose reality, to the man who has subjectively experienced it, is not to be questioned.
I have another excerpt from the same book that covers Saturn in the Earthy Signs and Houses. Back a few topics-pages you'll probably find Saturn in the Fiery Signs and Houses and Saturn in Leo and/or 5th house.....

'Zala

PS: Thanks for all the great links, DD!

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Mystic Gemini
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posted July 24, 2005 10:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn sucks.

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hot_ice
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posted July 24, 2005 10:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WoW! it's sitting at the top,right on my mc!!

YIKES!

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posted July 25, 2005 12:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm kinda nervous about Saturn being in Leo - my Ascendant, Sun, Mercury and Mars are all in Leo..

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posted July 26, 2005 12:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good job DayDreamer! Thanks.

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Hexxie
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posted July 26, 2005 12:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi 'zala, fellow libra (right?)- thx for that! i have just learned, from another thread somewhere in here that i may be needin to read saturn in the 3rd house too. my saturn /is/ in my 2nd house at 14leo11'03" but my 3rd house starts 14leo13'34". this is according to astro.com anywayz. on my chart from the buddhist temple i had done my 2nd house is leo all the way. my libran scales are still trying to weigh out whom i believe more as far as my rising goes heh! 'till then my signature is staying how it is! :P

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Hexxie
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posted July 29, 2005 03:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
**BUMP**
i keep refering back to these links!! TY

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posted August 04, 2005 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone feeling this? I haven't been feeling myself lately. I feel kind of out of it when I'm not at work. Maybe it's just me.

Also, the last two women to flirt with me were both Leos. Could this be related to Saturn (my ruler) in Leo? I suppose not since it's such a long transit.

I suppose I should read one of those articles at the start of this thread.

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posted August 04, 2005 08:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Acoustic God - Yes. I have no words for Saturn.

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Saturn'll be moving from my 11th into 12th houses over the coming 2 years, I have to say that over the past year I have shied away from social events in which I had no interest!!!

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