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Loopy24
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posted July 19, 2005 03:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A sun cancer, moon in scorpio, Venus virgo has totally stolen my heart and i don't know what to do. I used to work with him a couple of years ago he had a girlfriend and we were mates but nothing more. He left and i saw him from time to time out and about and had affectionate feelings and noticed how handsome he was getting but nothing more. Then a couple of months ago he started back at my place and i felt like i was hit by lightening. He had just split up with his girlfriend of 4 years and i felt an incredibly strong attraction to him and it seemed to be mutual. A couple of days later we went to a party and stuff eneded up happening. Thing is he was quite messed up about the end of the relationship (he ended it due to them growing apart and him falling out of love with her). And his ex had taken it badly and was having a virtual nervous breakdown and calling him and coming into work all the time. He was going on a bit of a bender with drinking and drugs. We had a big row one night and i said some terrible things and so did he. things went a bit wierd then. Since then we've slowly worked our friendship back to where it was. Thing is i'm a little bit in love with him. He's started to cut down on the drink and the drugs and seems a bit calmer and more sorted about everything. i know that he's been through a lot and need to give him space and time, but i carry this little peice of sadness around in me and don't know whether to give up or not. I get incredibly strong vibes sometimes and at others he's distant, he's said before though that he's very cagey.
Do any of you out there have some insight you could give me.
Help me please. I'm Aries Sun, Cancer Moon, Capricorn Ascendant, Venus in Aries, Cancer in the 7th house. I identify most with cancer.

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted July 19, 2005 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there loopy !

Hmm, Ok, first off, he's a Cancer, which could contribute to the mood swings... secondly, he's just had a hard break up so stuff's probably a bit turbulant for him.

Although I'm one to talk about laying off and not coming too strong (esp. when it comes to cancers ) I would say just increase your friendship for now until he has sorted things out with his girlfriend. Then move in for the kill lol!
Only joking , but I think it's probably a good thing to wait a bit, so if anything does happen between you, he's not just going to you on the rebound and you can know it's for real.

I really hope something comes out of it for you and btw, I'm a Capricorn Ascendant myself .
Welcome to Lindaland!! xxxx

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posted July 19, 2005 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy Asc here too and when I fall in love, i think its gonna be forever. But i have really felt the Saturn force in my early teens and childhood. I feel it lifting now as I get older.

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nove731
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posted July 19, 2005 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm...I think for now, you should just be there as a friend for him until he works his issues out. He'll probably appreciate it. :-P

Lol, the last person I liked had:

Sun in Scorpio (Me - Aries)
Moon in Virgo (Me -Sagittarius)
Venus in Sagittarius (Me - Pisces)
Mars in Libra (Me - Aquarius)
Ascendant in Leo (Me - Virgo)

Yeah...we ended up not meshing very well. :-P

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lovely*
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posted July 19, 2005 05:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted an article in Soul Unions. You should go check it out.

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Loopy24
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posted July 20, 2005 07:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am so happy that there's such caring people out there in the world. Big Big hugs to you all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and kisses to. Hope the stars watch over us all.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted July 20, 2005 02:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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taurean_scorpion
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posted July 20, 2005 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah nove731, i can see why you guys didn't mesh well.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted July 20, 2005 06:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loopy24,

i don't know if you've read about his venus in virgo yet...but here's info.

Venus in Virgo

Venus in Virgo people are not the flirtatious sort. Instead, their appeal lies in their dedication, their willingness to work on the relationship, and to make the relationship work in real terms. Unlike Venus in Leo, they won't try to impress you with grand gifts or promises. Their gifts are less showy, but perhaps far more generous -- gifts of devotion and attention to details about you.

Venus in Virgo men and women quietly (and often slowly) make their way into your heart. They are quite sensitive in love -- even insecure -- and this reserved, loner-like quality is part of their appeal. They prefer to play it safe in their relationships, and they need to be confident that you like them before they make a move. They are great listeners and they make it a habit to observe and learn all of your ins and outs. Their love can be of the Kindergarten variety -- they show they care by nagging or criticizing. Remember, though, that they are not trying to hurt you when they are pointing out the flaws in your thinking, plans, or even character. They truly are trying to help! Venus in Virgo is attracted to nondescript people who have largely gone unnoticed. Show-offs and know-it-alls turn them off.

Pleasing Venus in Virgo involves showing you appreciate them for all the little things they do -- and they do a lot. The problem is, they do these things so quietly that you may not always notice or credit them for all these kind gestures. They do need some space (after all, they're generally quite busy making everything work), so give it to them. Be genuine, not ostentatious. They are really not difficult to please after you have taken care of these basic needs. Avoid pushing your friends or family on them too fast -- remember they are a little shy. They aim to please, and are easily intimidated by your experiences. Let them know how much you value them, and they will reward you with devotion and a charming willingness to talk things out.

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Loopy24
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posted July 21, 2005 05:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the venus in virgo info. I'm really bubbly and chatty and enthusiastic at times, you don't think this could put him off do you?? I do show my sensitive side though too

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cancerrg
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posted July 21, 2005 01:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hy loopy ,

the suggestions that have alraedy been given are quite to the point .
but i am actually confused about some of the things after reading the venus in virgo description .

first thing , u need to a little less pushy at this moment . so that he comes out of earlier relation , he hasn't forgot it and he 'll never forget that woman but he 'll come out of it , dont worry , this is something for sure .( they are quite practiacl people , even though they are in love with thier past , and for them - they contemplate a lot before breaking a relation , its a water trait actually , and he has can and scorp )
b'cos his ex hasn't taken the things in a light way , he might be feeling guilty . so u need to give him time to come out of his guilt feeling . this is something very very important for your relation to devlop the way u want it to be .

it might be a little tough for u to understand , i know .
ah , u can be sure of onething that he wont go back , ( btw who among u women's is more attractive? this is weird but important .) for that he doesn't have to have that guilt .

u shouldn't be distant , if u love him , tell him ( there antenna's are always faulty!) if u dont , forget the relation .
i dont think he would be telling u something at the moment even if he has something in his romantic mind ( they are thorough romantics , and he is double water , so the love and what u call the stuff, both are important )


ok, why i am a bit confused , cancers like to be invited to homes and dinners but description says 'avoid pushiing your family and friends '( invitations in a way means coming in contact with the family and friends , doesn't it ) . this might have been quite ok with a scorp ( b'cos they dont like heavy possesiveness in the intial phases )but with cancer , the invitations work , actually .
i agree with the other parts , though.
except the gift part for venus in leo ( i have never given a gift to anyone in my life )


and well your bubly , enthu nature would always be appreciated . they like who they can chat with .show him the sensetive side , thats the trick .
hey you have solved the mystery yourself ( i saw your last post at the end only)

ok, tell me if i have missed on something .
best of luck

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Loopy24
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posted July 22, 2005 10:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Cancerrg xxx
I've tried to let him know i care in subtle ways yesterday and again today. i haven't sought him out for conversation but been friendly and receptive when he approached me. Thing nice but others around so not progressing. I sant him atxt last night just saying that i had my place to myself this weekend and that would be glad of his company if he was free, and to let me know one way or another if he could. Tried to make the tone of the txt caring but casual and non pressurised. He never has credit so i don't expect a response by text and we have had seperate breaks all day so no chance to talk. Don't think will now and am off for weekend. Oh well, at least i've let him know i care, what's meant to be is meant to be, and what is not is not i guess. Oh well, i'll just have to cry heartbrokenly all weekend so can start fresh week without heavy heart.xxxxxxxxxxxx

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cancerrg
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posted July 23, 2005 03:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah , what is meant to be is meant to be!

u know this is the first time that i have seen an aries identifying with a cancer the most . i think its the cancer -moon . but u have a lot of air /fire rather than water .

yeah one more thing , its said that the aries a re challenging ( if u wnaana know the context , check out the new thread by randall)
how do u think they are challenging ?
if its so in your case too , how did it help or hamper your relation?

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Loopy24
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posted July 25, 2005 07:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't find the thread, where do i go?
Do you mean that aries are challenging or that aries/cancer relations are challenging??

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posted July 26, 2005 12:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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cancerrg
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posted July 27, 2005 03:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yeah , i wanted to know how aries are challenging .
ok, well if u have any idea about aries -cancer relation . my sis has a aries husaband , i feel it is quite challenging!
your idea?

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Loopy24
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posted July 27, 2005 12:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a big difference in approach. Aries are quite straightforward when they want something whereas cancer's step back then sideways then forwards, and sometimes back again. Aries are more open and cancer's are quite withdrawn (they have a camaflage personality to hide thier real one i find). I have cancer moon + sun in aries and have two different sides to my nature. Think that the moon and mars in me create quite a passionate intense aggressive sensitive deep quality. Bit like scorpio. Think that an aries and cancer can have this kind of relationship ( passionate deep sensitive aggressive intense) if they are both willing
to accept each others difference in approach. I don't know though? What do you think. Also How do you see the moon and mars blending as, what sign would you say encapsulates those energies? xxx

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cancerrg
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posted July 28, 2005 08:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
o well , i too think they can have that intense relation .
though they have diff in life approach , they both crave for good things in life .

an aqua friend has a aries gf , i have always found her enchanting and interesting . though i have interacted just a bit but we still have to shed that invisible wall which seems quite tough b'cos of that diff in approach .


ok , what do u dislike in cancers ( if u could give life exp. , it would be much appreciative) though i have started seeing aries and other signs in a new light ( astrology helped me there ) but ofcourse there are diffs!

i didn't really understand the last part of your post , if u could elobrate.

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Loopy24
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posted July 30, 2005 08:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancers......i don't like the fact that they hide their feelings. The secrecy in thier dealings arouses suspicion and causes insecurity. Even if they havent done anything remotely shady it can seem that way. For instance if i'm out with a guy and i'm on my mobile a lot texting friends or stuff i'll pass a comment on the subject or person to let him know that i've not got someone else on the go as well. This cancer guy i know is always fiddling with his phone and never comments on who it is or what its about and i get suspicious that its girls and he's hiding it, but i am paranoid and he does have a lot of friends. What i meant is as my sun is in aries and moon is in cancer the moon and mars are prominent in my personality, I was wondering what kind of mix you'd think that would make.

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cancerrg
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posted July 30, 2005 02:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i understand u absolutely .

now that u tell me , i remember , there was a time when i was sharing a flat with four others , i dontknow thier signs exactly except one's , but i guess they were all fire and air people . that was a learning period for me .
and as u remind me , i think , this might have been a reason . we sometime unnecessarillly try to create a mystery and try to exaggerratte things .


ok, what do u think is the best way to woo a aries woman ?

i met an aries a few months back during army interview , we shared the same dorm , we were togetther for around thirty six hours and we remained in contact . he is moving to US this month . some of things that he wrote in mails have intrigued me .
i'll put the portions next time , (hope u are a regaular here ), i would like your help in understanding the aries a bit better .


ah , well about the moon and mars , though i am novice at astro myself but as far as , i understand its this combi that draws u to cancers .
you are an aries with the prominent cancer tinge .
btw it would help a bit more if u can put your chart .

to add abit more , as far as i have understood aries , cancers and aries do not have big diffs like the way they have with leo or even aquas .
what has irritated me always , has been thier affinity with the aquas or leos etc.
thats the jealous me . we always have the need to be needed , remember.

oh i got to ask something more , there's an aqua friend , his gf is aries .
now , they ofcourse have a wavelength but they have big diff . , the aqua guy is a big failure ( though he's my friend ) on the other hand his lady is a big success story . now , seeing this diff , what do u think in general , drew this lady to him .
i must add , he 's no casanova but just a normal guy. do u have any ideas about this lady's mindset on the basis of your knowledge about aries. i think a cancer woman's approach would have been different .thats why i asked.

sorry , it turned out too longggggggggg!

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Loopy24
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posted July 31, 2005 05:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aww thanks for replying, really appreciate it. Aries, passion and impatiance that's all you've got to remember...when aries want something they want it now, so they can sometimes mess up love not through lack of interest but lack of patience if things aren't moving quickly enough they'll get disheartened and give up. Aries girl with failure mate (unfair i'm sure..life's not contest its just about making the best of things). Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so there might be many qualities that she see's in him that you (even he)are unaware of. Also maybe she wants to rescue him, maybe she wants to help him to be a succes she might see hidden talents in him. Or she could not be that materially/goal oriented so she doesn't judge someone by his place in life but the person he is. Or he could seem safe to her through his inferiority (joke).

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