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Topic: Sesquiquadrates,Semi squares,semi sextiles,Quincunx
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sweet_face
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posted July 28, 2005 11:54 AM
 
Are these as important as squares, conjuncts,Sextiles,Opposites,Trines??????IP: Logged |
The Mutable Night Force
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From: England
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted July 28, 2005 11:59 AM
Hey, I was reading about them last night!Short answer:
No. No, they're not.
 Hope that helped. It's mainly because they are in-betweeny angles which aren't really that strong aspects.
Oh, apart from quincunx, that's the signs before and after your own, so 30' I think. IP: Logged |
nove731
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From: Strasbourg, France
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 28, 2005 12:13 PM
A quincunx - also known as an inconjunct - is 150 degrees, MNF.  IP: Logged |
sassygrrrl
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posted July 28, 2005 12:16 PM
the Quincunx - yes
The rest - no The magi astrologers have put forth a lot of evidence that Quincunxes are very powerful and on par with all the other major aspects. They also consider it a postive aspect. (Unless Saturn is involved, then it is negative) And from my personal experience with the Quincunx, I tend to agree with them. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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From: ON Canada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2005 12:22 PM
http://www.adze.com/astro/aspects.html IP: Logged |
nove731
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From: Strasbourg, France
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 28, 2005 12:24 PM
Hm. I have two inconjuncts in my chart.Saturn Inconjunct Midheaven
Jupiter Inconjunct Moon My Jupiter and my Moon are also in mutual reception (Moon in Sagittarius, Jupiter in Cancer).  IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion
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posted July 28, 2005 12:25 PM
thanks for the site pixie.IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted July 28, 2005 12:28 PM
As a norm Mutable's right - they're not as significant, because squares, and other "major" aspects" are "louder" and "bossier" and tend to drown out these aspects when it comes to defining the basic character of the chart.With the expection of quincunx, I am comfortable calling those aspects "minor" aspecst - that means they play second fiddle to any major aspect in the chart, but can provide subtle nuances, color and variation. However, in some cases, they can be largely "outshouted" by bigger, badder major aspects, especially squares and conjunctions. But this laregly depends on the individual chart. The easy starting point is to assume they're not as significant and focus just on the major aspect. Then look at these minor aspects to help get a more nuanced understanding of the chart overall. A few notes: 1) Semisextiles and semisquares can be more significant than normal if they form a aspect configuration, in particular a triangle not unlike a t-square. But instead of two squares sharing an apex with an opposition as a base, you have either: - two semisquares with a square for the base (extremely agrumentive, can be very pronounced in the chart, tends to produce a lot of tension, for better or worse) - two semisextiles with a sextile for the base (much quieter, but can act like a "energy pool" that collects energy rather than expresses it) 2) Septsquisextiles are related to the 7th harmonic, and can be significant if you're looking at harmonic charts. Otherwise it's better to just focus on major aspects. Other 7th harmonic aspects - septile (51 degrees), biseptile (102-103 degrees), and triseptile (154 degrees) - are more significant when looking at the 7th harmonic anyhow. But either way, as a norm harmonic aspects tend to add flavor, color and nuance, or can provide talent, skill and inspiration, but are not as defining to the overall chart as major aspect. 3) The quincunx is the proverbial odd man out in aspects. It's a tricky one to intrepret. As a rule, I look at the quincunx as neither "major" or "minor" - it is in a class by itself. It doesn't usually provide overt defining influence to a chart, unless there's several, and especially when they form yods (and people with strong quincunx influence tend to be "odd men out" themselves). But quincunxes do seem to be very important on a long-term basis, and seem to indicate potential advantages, pitfalls, or detours a long the way of the native's personal development. IP: Logged |
nove731
Knowflake Posts: 43
From: Strasbourg, France
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 28, 2005 01:10 PM
Hm. What are semi-squares and semi-sextiles, exactly? What's the orb for it? Hrm. I think the only (remotely) significant ones would be between the Sun and Venus...I don't think that's possible between the Sun and Mercury, though, is it?IP: Logged |
sweet_face
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posted July 28, 2005 02:52 PM
So then what does Mercury Quincunx Ascendant
Mean??????IP: Logged |
geminstone
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posted July 28, 2005 02:56 PM
Hi Nove731 ~
A Square is 90 degrees; Semi-square is 45 degrees.
A Sextile, is 60 degrees; Semi- sextile is 30 degrees.
As far as Mercury and Venus, aspecting the Sun, .... I forget....~ geminstone ... I'd like to know if Quincunx and Inconjunct, are the same aspect/orb...? I have Jupiter in 6th/Taurus, conjunct South Node and, Inconjunct Neptune in Sagittarius 1st/Scorpio...? IP: Logged |
Aen
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posted July 28, 2005 03:23 PM
Gemini Nymph quote:
The quincunx is the proverbial odd man out in aspects. It's a tricky one to intrepret. As a rule, I look at the quincunx as neither "major" or "minor" - it is in a class by itself.
How'd you interprete quincunx when there are no major aspects for one planet forming quincunx? Major since there is so little outlet for the planet otherwise? ------------------
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nove731
Knowflake Posts: 43
From: Strasbourg, France
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 28, 2005 03:35 PM
quote:
... I'd like to know if Quincunx and Inconjunct, are the same aspect/orb...? I have Jupiter in 6th/Taurus, conjunct South Node and, Inconjunct Neptune in Sagittarius 1st/Scorpio...?
Thank you. And yeah, they are. Heh, so Mercury and the Sun can only conjunct, then. Eh, I'd still consider any aspect between Venus and the Sun important. Whether semi-square or semi-sextile, and especially the conjunction.  IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted August 11, 2005 03:17 PM
Great info everyone. Great link Pixie - really thorough regarding all the Aspects, and not easy to find. Thanks.------------------
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geminirising26
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posted August 11, 2005 09:23 PM
This is interesting..
supposing the semi's are not really important, what happens if you have a planet that is not highly majorly aspected except by minor aspects?for example. My Venus is conjunct Uranus, but Semi square my mars and pluto, and opposite my N. Node. Does this mean that the venus conjunct uranus is going to be my major venusian (I think I just made that up-lol) energy in my chart? IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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From: nevada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2005 09:32 PM
the inconjunct aspect at 150 degrees is half way between the trine and opposition. Its influence is mixed. Mostly its an (adaptable) fish out of water 
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