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nove731
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From: Strasbourg, France
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posted July 30, 2005 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm. You know, I've always wondered why - all my life - I've never really had "close" friends. They never seem to stick. It's like they're disposable. I'm never really sad to lose them, and I lose them often, for whatever reason (ie, we get kinda close-ish one year, then no contact the next, generally drift, one of us moves, etc.).

I kinda wonder why. Is there anything in a chart that can signify that? My 11th house is pretty vacant. I have my South node (Leo) in there, and that's it.

29.40 Cancer is on the cusp of my 11th house, it swallows all of Leo, and then 00.12 degrees of Virgo. :-/

Sometimes if I wonder if it's just my Virgo Ascendant. Maybe adding in the Saturn Trine Ascendant, saying "Stay away!" or something.

I dunno. I hate it, though. :-/

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Aen
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posted August 01, 2005 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I understood correctly you have have intercepted 5th/11th houses. I don't know mucheelse about them other than it means somesort of diificulty expressing any planet (and I suppose nodes as well) in these houses. May be this has something to do with having only few friends?

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BroodingMooodlin
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posted August 02, 2005 06:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, I could relate to that whole drifting thing too, except I have no inkling why I"m so drifty. It's like I have a few close ones for a while with a lot of contact- and then lonliness because someone leaves, dies, etc. And then I'm handsomely rewarded with regressing Zombies "All my dead friends come to h..."- nevermind.

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BroodingMooodlin
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posted August 02, 2005 06:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh shoot. I DO happen to have venus square saturn though. I just don't understand though why people seem to distance themselves from me (well, at least the ones who don't know me at all). I think I look pretty inviting and genial but they'd rather refuse my subliminal offers. Oh well.

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lip
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posted August 02, 2005 07:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for what it's worth i wouldn't say 'saturn trine ascendant' is a "stay away from me!" aspect, after all it is a trine, so you would probably just seem a bit self-contained and reliable in a positive sense... i have virgo ascendant too (and venus in capricorn, sextile saturn) and am extremely shy, but it doesn't sound that you have that issue - maybe it makes you too rational, willing to get on with life, as you say it never worries you much when it ends.

Anyway, it seems for me that it's painful to socialise at first, then i grow on people, then when i finally sense that i'm liked i drop my guard, become my real self and turn people off completely.

Sorry this was probably just a post to talk about myself but oh well

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nove731
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From: Strasbourg, France
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posted August 02, 2005 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, I'm not shy. But I'm extremely self-concious. At first everyone just kind of ignores me, until I get comfortable with the situation, and start butting my way into it all. I don't like being ignored or looked over (It REALLY irritates me). A friend of mine said last year that I'm very difficult to get to know. I'm too distant, apparently. I thought that was funny. I'm realllllllllllly not. I'd be an awful psychologist or something. I'd get emotionally "involved". Which, I understand you're not supposed to do?

I have intercepted 6th/12th houses, Aen (6th&7th in Pisces, 12th&1st in Virgo), but Aquarius and Leo are just intercepted signs. I have my Mars and North Node in Aquarius in the 5th house, and I have my South Node in Leo in the 11th. Hrm, I wonder if having Aquarius intercepted is why. I'm not sure.

I don't have "close" friends. Plenty of acquaintances, but there's really just nothing holding me to anyone, really. I'm not sure if I should be grateful or miserable about that.

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astro junkie
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posted August 12, 2005 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


nove731 -

Consider as well, sometimes it's not a matter of giving off "insecurity" vibes, and it may be a pleasant surprise to know that perhaps it also has to do with giving off the vibe that you are self-contained. Some people give off the vibe that they do not need other people, whether it's true or not. Energies which come to mind which could bring about this contradiction are

* Capricorn/10th House/Saturn
* Leo/5th House/Sun
* Scorpio/8th House/Pluto

If this is something you can relate to, consider that others sort of "expect" you to be the strong and giving one. As long as you've explored how far in that direction of "giving" you can lean, then I think you'll continue to evolve with this. Easier said than done sometimes, as sometimes it is best to give even in our time of greatest need.

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Loopy24
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posted August 17, 2005 04:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, your link was sad to read and wanted to comfort you with tale of mine to show that things might not always be this way xx I'm 24 and up until a few years ago I felt like everyone drifted away or got took away too. You come to expect it and then as a defense don't let yourself get too attached. This though can mean that you resist (SUBCONSCIOUSLY) deep friendships, and are only willing to share parts of yourself that aren't too personal. By the time you are willing to open up the friend has changes happen in thier life and without bonds (through sharing real selves) to hold you together they may end up leaving yours, or alternatively you could have changes in yours but because the friendship doesn't seem that important to you (in thier eyes) they'll be content to let things drift. As I said before its only recently that i've been able to forge strong bonds and truly feel close to people. I think accepting yourself and trusting yourself and risking a bit of faith in other people will solve your problem. You kind of go numb about it all though (self protection) and warming up is hard to do. Please don't give up on other people though, there is so much experiance and support to gain and give in friendships, and so much love xx

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MiaMammy08
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posted August 17, 2005 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaMammy08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I kno what you mean. I have the same problem. im interested in them only when i need them. and ive been close with some of the people ive met but alot of the people i would consider friends turn into associates. i dont kno why that is though.... Its like " i dont need em, i can get some more,they are not somebody important or i dont care about them" kind of attitude. but i dont kno....

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nove731
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From: Strasbourg, France
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posted August 17, 2005 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I kno what you mean. I have the same problem. im interested in them only when i need them. and ive been close with some of the people ive met but alot of the people i would consider friends turn into associates. i dont kno why that is though.... Its like " i dont need em, i can get some more,they are not somebody important or i dont care about them" kind of attitude. but i dont kno....

Kinda, yeah. After a while. Maybe it's a generational thing. You're the same age as me, I think. You were born in 1990, right?

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