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geminirising26
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posted August 02, 2005 08:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am trying to figure out what my chart says about myself and relationships, especially that of me and men. I know no one does "free charts" on this site much (except the very nice SecretGarden (thanks again!) but could anyone else take a look at my chart and see what is going on with my relationships (or possible hesitantcy towards what one would call a REAL relationship)

I would really appreciate it, as this has been bugging me for years and I lack the detached perspective to really analyze my own chart as a whole.

Here is my chart info, for anyone interested in looking:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=1&nho2=1&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&add=14&sday=3&smon=8&syr=2005&rs=&orbp=&cid=ew0filexhNfAH-u1122874067&lang=e&gm=a1&ast=

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wilsontc
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posted August 03, 2005 01:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini,

With Mercury (thinking/daily work, analysis) conjunct (energy is combined with) Neptune (spirituality, also idealizing) conjunct Jupiter (expansion, also wisdom) focused in the 7th house (relationships) conjunct Descendant (others); you may tend to spend a lot of time looking for the perfect relationship, or in examining all your relationships for flaws or defects. The challenge is to realize that no relationship is perfect, but is instead a blending of two people into one, with each person adjusting for the benefit of the other.

Your relationships may be more "friendships" since you have Uranus (friends) conjunct Venus (relationships). Accepting a more casual, friendly approach to relationships may also help in accepting the imperfection in relationships.

Relating,

Tim

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 03, 2005 01:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. Hmm. That Neptune Jupiter conjunuction can be highly creative and imaginative (arts and humanitarian work) but in the case of relationships (House 7), it can be a bit pie in the sky, escapist, dreamy, it's I put you on the pedestal,...opps you fell off..again you knucklehead!

Equally important is that Mars and Pluto conjunct in 5 Scorpio! That is intense love by possession sometimes domination with strong physical needs. Let's whet our appetites shall we? I'm kidding--a bit.

By the way that's 6 planets just in House 5 and House 7---lots of emphasis on relating, love, romance, partnerships, family.

Anyway come back and make a liar astrological novice out of me. Tell me you are a nun living in a cloister abbey in Swizterland and I'll help you get an escape flight out. LOL.

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geminirising26
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posted August 05, 2005 08:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, I definately think what you are saying to true...esp that comment about the "friendships" thing...so many of people who are interested in me, I am not interested in, and it just goes into "pal" mode....this has happened recently again where we have "friendships" as well, nothing really goes any further. And I have always felt that before I could jump into a relationship, I HAD to be friends first.

Lily..that pesky little Mars conjunct pluto. Some say this is a strong placement, esp in Scorpio, but I don't know...to me it seems a bit dark...but I DO have a thing for Scorpios! I want one!

I do have a tendency, I think, to put people on pedestools, or to expect certain things from people, but I never really hold them to it, the expectations are just there, you know??

Being that there are 6 planets in houses 5 and 7, what is going on with my lack of real relationships. I just DON"T get it...perhaps it is that pluto and saturn in the 5th that is just too serious or cautions? I don't know...


WEll, anyway, thanks for your replies!

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Lauren
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posted August 05, 2005 11:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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geminirising26
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posted August 08, 2005 11:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lauren-

I have never met a person who has a similar chart to mine before. Lol. What is your sun sign?? Mine, as you must know, is Cap. It is odd because I don't quite understand what all the conmunction means...all I ever get is "high expectations of people" in anything conjunct or sextile Neptune, and Mercury and Jup, I hardly get anything different.


Do you know much about these conjunctions and relationships??

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Loggerhead
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posted August 08, 2005 12:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have thought that Mars in 5th sextile Neptune and Jupiter in the 7th would be a facilitator for relationships...

Maybe check out your 12th house Moon, making an opposition to Saturn at the 6th house cusp.

Below is what I found on that aspect at www.astrologyweekly.com - a really great site for everything you ever wanted to know about your chart but never had anybody to ask.

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"Moon opposition Saturn:

It is probable that the restrictions and limitations which you encounter are mainly derived from other people or environmental pressures, and that relationship difficulties will occur.

Childhood experiences and parental or social conditioning will have greatly affected you; and your attitudes and worldview are likely to have been moulded by duty, obligation, and responsibility. You see their requirements as necessary for the socially mature individual, but, instead of gradually developing as a result of real maturation, these have been imposed on you, probably during childhood before you were able to properly integrate them. Parental pressure or environmental circumstances may have forced you to 'act grown up' before you were ready, having to conform to these demands. You may have reacted against the discipline of restraining attitudes and imposed rigid behaviour, and may have seen your parents as lacking love or understanding for you.

Life presents a vista of duty and obligation; it is viewed as a serious affair in which 'doing the right thing' becomes important, even if this means ignoring your feelings, instincts, and emotions... or so it seems to you. One result could have been a controlling of childhood feelings, exuberance, and enthusiasm, of not being allowed time for childish play and 'silliness', acting out imaginative fantasies, or refusing to conform.

By adult life, this may have consequences of moodiness, bleak depressions, and negativity. You may display emotional inflexibility, endure phases of stagnation, and have fears of people, experiences, and situations. If this occurs, it is symptomatic of unconscious emotional repression, which now influences your everyday consciousness and reality through interference. Sensing this repression, others may avoid closeness with you, as they sense that your social stiffness inhibits relationships; as your vibration is that of a loner, they may feel uncomfortable.

Negative attitudes can become restrictive and limiting; opportunities can be lost through refusing to take chances, or relationships denied through social unease or fear of emotional intimacy. If you can redirect your attitudes in a more positive and constructive direction, things will open up; making such a shift is likely to prove diffivult, yet, if achieved, will be highly rewarding.

Clarifying your life direction is important, enabling energies to be targeted at achieving specific personal aims. While the 'duty and obligation' program dominates you, there can be antagonism toward authority figures such as employers or managers, especially if they provoke your feelings or wound your sensitivity. If you chose not to become self-employed, then work related to medicine, research, social welfare, community service, law, or government may attract.

Relationships can prove problematic. You find difficulty letting down your emotional drawbridge to others, and struggle to express feelings. Sometimes embryonic relationships are destroyed by your allowing previous relationship experiences to interfere, by prejudging people according to past disillusionments. Emotions are protected; and this can prevent intimacy from developing. Older partners may attract, as may those who display a maturity which you believe you lack.

Be careful of becoming dependent on others. It may be inevitable that you fall in love with someone who displays affection but not love for you. This leaves you emotionally vulnerable; and powerful but painful feelings are encountered. Such experiences could prove uncomfortable and traumatic, yet releasing emotions is the healthiest action. If a relationship develops, then you may become less defensive, and your hidden potential may unfold with a loving partner.

Children may help to open you, providing a relationship into which you can pour love, helping you to feel at ease with displaying feelings in a less threatening context. You may find that family obligations create limitations, due to financial constraints and parenting responsibilities. A balanced approach to fulfilling responsibilities in a more relaxed, emotionally responsive manner is required; and much depends on transforming attitudes and feelings. If this is achieved, limitations will progressively dissolve as emotional stress is released, and a new feeling of liberation grows. With emotional freedom comes the dismantling of those inner barriers which have prohibited creativity and imagination; and taking these steps may reveal previously unexplored and unrecognized talents and abilities."
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Hope this helps.

Loggerhead

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geminirising26
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posted August 08, 2005 06:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Loggerhead for that link, I've been to that site before, but always forget to save it!


:Sighs: oh, the dreaded Moon Opp. Saturn....

Hate to admit it, but it is ALL true, I always had (do have) tons of responsibility and duty. How to deal with this aspect? Jeez. But one thing I don't get, it I also have Venus conjunct Uranus in the 6th (and Venus in Sag)which is inclined to sudden attractions and friendships, but I suppose the Moon-Saturn aspect outweighs this.

Gosh, this aspect is depressing!

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