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JupiterRulesSurely
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posted August 03, 2005 07:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need some help! I'd like to know more about where in a chart you find aspectsg that relates to your relationship with your mother and father. I'm interested because I'd like to look at my own chart, but also because I'd like to look at my son's chart.
If anyone would like to see his chart, I'd be happy to post it..

Thanks in advance - JupiterRules(not so)Surely

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 03, 2005 09:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know we have posted about this topic before. I think it was last year. Let's see....my mother is a gemini. (A b*tch gemini may I add). And my father was an aries.


I have Medium Coeli Aries 11°33'31 in my 10th house. And I have my sun gemini in my 12th House Gemini 25°34'35 . I couldn't be sure. Someone will eventually come along who might know.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

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Neptune's Muse
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posted August 03, 2005 09:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JupiterRulesSurely: This is the first time I see you post, so if you are a new member WELCOME!

In a natal chart, the mother is symbolized by the MOON, and the father by Saturn.

So hard aspects of those planets to personal planets -- so I have read -- are indicative of tense relationships with parents. Also, the fourth house is representative of "home", security and nurturing in general. Let's say someone has Uranus in the fourth house (I do), it COULD be an indication that they have moved a lot in childhood, one of the parents exhibited Uranian qualities, detachment perhaps, and also indicative that the person will be moving a lot in their life. Jacques Cocteau had Uranus in his fourth.

I hope it helps and I am sure if you do a search in the forum, you will find a lot on this topic.

Smiles,

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MoonDuchess88
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posted August 03, 2005 09:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
look to the sun(father) and moon(mother). Like my sun is in cancer and moon is in virgo.. My father's a cancer and my mother's a virgo. Or I think you look to sapects of the moon(mother) and saturn(father again)

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 03, 2005 09:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for Jennifer (female)
born on 19 June 1982 local time 07:49 am
in New York, NY (US) U.T. 11:49
74w00, 40n43 sid. time 00:42:31

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Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Gemini 27°52'09 12 direct
Moon Taurus 29°31'58 11 direct
Mercury Gemini 07°46'37 11 direct
Venus Taurus 22°54'09 11 direct
Mars Libra 08°19'27 03 direct
Jupiter Scorpio 00°32'22 04 retrograde
Saturn Libra 15°29'54 04 stationary (D)
Uranus Sagittarius 01°34'37 05 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 25°36'24 06 retrograde
Pluto Libra 24°10'45 04 retrograde
True Node Cancer 13°22'33 12 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 27°29'48
2nd House Leo 17°27'11
3rd House Virgo 11°17'51
Imum Coeli Libra 11°33'31
5th House Scorpio 18°15'37
6th House Sagittarius 25°34'35
Descendant Capricorn 27°29'48
8th House Aquarius 17°27'11
9th House Pisces 11°17'51
Medium Coeli Aries 11°33'31
11th House Taurus 18°15'37
12th House Gemini 25°34'35

Major aspects
Sun Trine Jupiter 2°40
Sun Opposition Neptune 2°16
Sun Trine Pluto 3°41
Moon Conjunction Venus 6°38
Moon Quincunx Jupiter 1°00
Moon Opposition Uranus 2°03
Moon Sextile Ascendant 2°02
Mercury Trine Mars 0°33
Venus Quincunx Neptune 2°42
Venus Quincunx Pluto 1°17
Venus Sextile Ascendant 4°36
Jupiter Sextile Neptune 4°56
Jupiter Square Ascendant 3°03
Uranus Trine Ascendant 4°05
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°26
Neptune Quincunx Ascendant 1°53
Pluto Square Ascendant 3°19
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).


Where the hell is my mother? Ugh.


I was always closer to my father. He favored me. I feel like a part of my life is missing since he went away. He was so sensitive and sweet. If he were still here I could see us opening up an animal shelter together since he loved animals also.

This is an aspect between me and my father:


Moon in the Eleventh House

You have a strong feeling of shared goals and objectives in life, which will contribute to your ability to get along with each other. You will spontaneously think of yourselves as a unit rather than as two separate individuals.

You will be fond of company and enjoy sharing good times with others. Many factors in your lives together will support your relationship in a friendly way without any special effort on your part.

In general this is one of the better positions for a personal relationship and should enable you to share both love and friendship.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted August 03, 2005 10:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Aires rules your tenth house which is also associated w/ the father/authority etc. Your father's sun is probably there. Sorry about your father BTW

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posted August 03, 2005 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstar77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
Go here http://grupovenus.com/main.htm

When you get to the site, click on Astrological Report Types and then scroll down to Child Report to read about it. I recently did this, and it's been very helpful at describing my relationship to my parents. Now go back to the link above and click on "Free Astrological reports" and type in your dob info. You'll be led to a page where it has free reports. If you click on Child Report, they give you a brief description of your sun (father) and moon (mother) info and how you relate to your parents. You have to pay for the entire report, but even with the free one, they give you a pretty good idea of your relationship with them.

For me, I have hard aspects to my Moon, and I never seemed to understand my moon sq mercury aspect because my friends and loved ones understand me communication-wise and there's no major communication problems with other females. But when I read that this aspect presents difficult communication with the MOTHER, it made sense. My mom and I always had trouble communicating (still do), and I always felt like I never could share my ideas or thoughts to her without her misunderstanding in some way. Now, that doesn't mean I don't love her (I do ) but it's very frustrating for both of us to just have a simple 'talk' without having the conversation turn into a misunderstanding a few minutes later. I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with this aspect.

Check to see which one has more positive aspects, the child's sun or moon. I have a wonderful Sun trine Jupiter aspect and it has always given me 'protection' and the ability to find positive in the negative. The chart also said that in relation to my father, I'm able to joke around with him and be silly around him. It helps with establishing a closeness to the father. And that's true! My mom is more of a serious practical type. So is my dad. But my dad also has a funny, goofy side to him and we always end up making each other laugh somehow. So for me at least, this was good info. It made a lot of things clear, even from the free version.

PS: there are other charts in there too, which are just as informative and some of them give you the entire report. It's sort of like astro.com...but different

Hope this helps

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 03, 2005 10:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy crap that was so right on!!!


Thanks so much!!


Child Astrological Report for:
Jennifer
Saturday, June 19, 1982
7:49:00 AM
New York, New York

Contents:
Introduction
1 General description of the child
2 Maternal figure
3 Paternal figure
4 Mentality, intelligence
5 Destiny, vocation, profession
6 Health, nutrition
7 Generational influence

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Introduction

This Astrological Child Report has been designed as a guide for Jennifer's parents, with a special commitment: to help with Jennifer's growth and cultural upbringing, to emphasize and strengthen her assets, and to alert the parents to mistakes or possible problems that Jennifer could face in her life.

Chapter 1 describes Jennifer the way she really is (position of the Sun), and the way her personality is expressed (Ascendant sign). Chapters 2 and 3 describe the influences linked to her mother and father respectively, which DOES NOT mean a description of their personalities, but the way Jennifer sees them, experiences them, and which characteristics she takes from each one. In the astrological chart of a brother or sister, the description of parents could be different due to the individual's perspective. Chapter 4 completes the sequence of the description of Jennifer's temperament, focusing her mind, her attitude toward education, and her intellectual capacity.

Chapter 5 describes Jennifer's destiny, her vocation, her profession, and the probability of success in the material world. In order to get an appropriate view of Jennifer's vocational possibilities, it will be necessary to combine what is in this chapter plus what is in Chapter 1 and any other relevant information in the report.

Chapter 6 analyzes the conditions of Jennifer's health; some tendencies or possibilities to physical diseases are mentioned, which DOES NOT mean that Jennifer is going to suffer from them, one by one. It does mean that those are her weak points and she is inclined to those possibilities. As a complement, some recommendations for Jennifer to have better nutrition are mentioned. PLEASE CONSULT A PHYSICIAN REGARDING ANY PHYSICAL PROBLEMS THAT YOUR CHILD MAY HAVE!!! FOLLOW YOUR PHYSICIAN'S ADVICE AND ANY MEDICATION OR THERAPY THAT HE/SHE RECOMMENDS!!! ASTROLOGY SHOULD NEVER BE USED AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL ATTENTION!!!

Finally, Chapter 7 describes the astrological influence of the outer planets which affect all the children who were born in the same period of years, producing common ideas and behaviors and subsequent generational characteristics.

It is probable that you may find some contradictions in the report; this is because some planets may be beneficial in a certain area of life while other planets may be less helpful or even harmful. This means that Jennifer may have both positive and negative experiences in the same area. You need to draw on your intuition and common sense to come to your own conclusions. But remember that every child, no matter the sign he/she was born in, needs LOVE in order to grow up in the right way.

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Sun Gemini 27° 52' in house 12
Moon Taurus 29° 31' in house 11
Mercury Gemini 7° 46' in house 11
Venus Taurus 22° 54' in house 11
Mars Libra 8° 19' in house 3
Jupiter Scorpio 0° 32' in house 4
Saturn Libra 15° 29' in house 4
Uranus Sagittarius 1° 34' in house 5
Neptune Sagittarius 25° 36' in house 6
Pluto Libra 24° 10' in house 4
Ascendant Cancer 27° 29' in house 1
Midheaven Aries 11° 33' in house 10
Node True Cancer 13° 22' in house 12
2 Leo 17° 26' in house 2
3 Virgo 11° 17' in house 3
4 Libra 11° 33' in house 4
5 Scorpio 18° 15' in house 5
6 Sagittarius 25° 34' in house 6


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Zodiac Tropical
Time Zone: 4 hours West
Lat. y Long. of birth: 40N43 74W0

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*** Chapter 1 ***
General description of the child: essential nature and
personality. Physical body and childhood.

Sun in Gemini
Ascendant in Cancer
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*** Chapter 2 ***
Maternal figure: emotions, feelings, capacity to love and share.

Moon in Taurus

She will have deep, stable, and long lasting emotions. It will be very difficult for her to change her mind once she has made a decision. Her reactions will be slow but strong. She will have a good memory and a deep mind; Jennifer will be patient and will not get angry very easily, but once she is angry, she will show her stubbornness and inflexibility. Jennifer experiences pleasure from being in warm and secure, familiar surroundings, where she receives love and affection. As she is not fond of change, she must feel that everything is all right. Parents must teach her good dietary and hygienic habits, because once she has learned them, it will not be easy for her to change them. Jennifer can tend to laziness.

Jennifer will have a mother with traditional ideas and with deeply rooted customs. The maternal influence will teach her to respect everything that is conservative. Most probably Jennifer will learn from her mother the importance of having a good financial situation, and may become a materialist, worrying not only about her well-being but about having more and more. This is caused by her search for emotional tranquility based on material security.

Moon in 11th House

Jennifer will have many friends and will meet many people who can help and protect her. She will be very popular and tend to have more women than men among her friends. Though she may be disappointed now and then by her friends, this will not change her open and sociable attitude. Her opinions will be unprejudiced and objective and she will often change her goals. Jennifer likes to share everything and will always want to be with the people she loves.

Moon conjunct Venus orb 6° 37'

Jennifer will have a great capacity for love. Her feelings will be noble and her romanticism would seem to be endless. She will love to take care of people and animals, and she will marvel at the natural world, sunrise, flowers, etc. Everybody will love her and she can be very popular. She will love art, music, and beauty. Jennifer can be a bit lazy, enjoying the pleasures of life and tending to extravagance.

Moon opposition or square Uranus orb 2° 2'

Jennifer will have a remarkable intelligence, but at the same time, will be stubborn, fanatical, anarchic, and emotionally tense. Jennifer will be very restless and may tend to overreact to any situation. Her mother will be unconventional and possibly very nervous. If Jennifer changes her place of residence often, this could make her feel insecure. In the future, she will be very close to unusual people and may have problems communicating her feelings to others.

Venus in Taurus

Jennifer's love will be stable and long lasting. She will be tender and loving, and will be very attached to the people she loves, even when she has quarrels or misunderstandings. Jennifer will develop a strong possessiveness, not only toward things, but also in her personal relationships. She will tend to enjoy the good life and pleasures in general, and her attraction to food and sweets can cause weight problems. Her charisma will draw admirers who want to please her, and, as a consequence, she can become lazy. Jennifer must learn to get the things she wants through her own efforts.

Venus in 11th House

Jennifer will have a variety of friends. She will be successful working or collaborating with a club or a philanthropic institution. Jennifer will tend to be very idealistic and will dream of a better world; her best friends will be bohemian and will show artistic sensitivity. Jennifer will probably marry a person involved with the arts. She will be very sociable and will enjoy the company of others.

Jupiter in Scorpio

Jennifer will love mysteries and stories of suspense. She will be an eternal researcher, always questioning and seeking knowledge. She will also show a big interest in the supernatural; as an adult Jennifer may have inclinations toward the spiritual and mystical. She will have confidence in herself and will be very persistent in working for the things she wants.

Jupiter in 4th House

Jennifer will love her family and her home and will often receive help from her parents. Jennifer will love being outdoors. She will be happy growing up in the place where she was born. Her attitude will be open, spontaneous, and outgoing, which will bring her to a happy and full maturity. Bad situations will neither bother nor change her character.

Jupiter trine or sextile Neptune orb 4° 55'

Jennifer will be spiritual and/or religious and will enjoy helping others unselfishly. Her intuition will be remarkable and at an early age Jennifer will be attracted to mystical things and to the metaphysical world. She could do well in professions related to education, social welfare, or creative activity. Jennifer will have noble and very strong feelings and will always be concerned about her spiritual evolution.

Jupiter conjunct Pluto orb 6° 21'

Jennifer will have the capacity to live her life to the fullest. She will work desperately to achieve her ideals and goals, and may succeed in leadership positions during her life. Her behavior and emotional expression will be intense and sometimes a bit exaggerated. Jennifer may make enemies due to her frankness and strong assertiveness. She must learn how to moderate her attitude and to direct her dynamic strength in a creative and positive way.

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*** Chapter 3 ***
Paternal figure: authority, power, capacity to assume
responsibilities and to defend oneself in life.

Sun in 12th House

If Jennifer has painful experiences, she may feel responsible for them; as a consequence, she may feel insecure and shy. This lack of confidence in herself will increase if her family is over-protective, or on the contrary, if she gets too much punishment on account of her behavior. If the father does not live up to Jennifer's expectations, she may not develop enough self-esteem and confidence in herself to become successful in life. Jennifer will need to admire her father and have more communication with him to strengthen her own identity. Otherwise, Jennifer will feel more secure hiding her own potential than showing it to people. The same dynamic impacting her emotions could lead Jennifer to a lonely life. Positively, Jennifer will show great compassion for others, and will like helping people selflessly without any personal agenda.

Sun trine or sextile Jupiter orb 2° 40'

Jennifer will show great enthusiasm and joy in learning. Her positive and optimistic attitude will bring her many friends. She will be unusually touched by good luck, and thus, troubles will be overcome. Jennifer will have a tendency to be lazy, but she will have a quiet, correct, and very noble attitude, as well as a great sense of justice.

Sun opposition or square Neptune orb 2° 15'

Jennifer can undervalue her own abilities and aptitudes, and as a consequence, she will not believe in her own success. She will be very sensitive to what is going on around her, to the conflict, to criticism, and everything that affects her emotional world. Jennifer will absorb the tensions around her and sometimes will suffer if her parents, brothers, sisters, or friends are suffering. She will be a very idealistic daydreamer; she will need more realism and objectivity. Jennifer will be easily deceived by people due to her idealization of others. Her father must not be too vulnerable or show inclinations to bad habits, as Jennifer can learn from him an escapist attitude in dealing with problems.

Sun trine or sextile Pluto orb 3° 41'

Jennifer will have very intense and dedicated inner motivations, which could put her in a leadership position. She will be passionate about the things she likes, and possibly a fanatic about her ideas. Jennifer will not be satisfied with the status quo and will work hard to transform things into her ideal. She will have great concentration, will power, and a good capacity to throw off any illness or weakness. Jennifer will be very interested in occult sciences and the mysteries of life, and will develop excellent perceptive abilities.

Saturn in Libra

Jennifer will need a lot of time to make decisions and, though she will seem to be dominated by indecision, finally she will make the right choice. She will be very reserved and will probably have some problems with her social life. Though Jennifer will have few friends, they will be there forever. Jennifer will have a great sense of justice and will be a good judge or lawyer. She will always be very diplomatic and will express her opinions in a proper way. This astrological position can delay marriage or bring a serious person as a mate.

Saturn in 4th House

Jennifer will always be attached to her family and also to her past. She will feel responsible and worried about things around the home. Though she will have an inner independence, it will not be easy for her to leave her parents' house. Jennifer will be very happy when she leaves the place where she was born. Her parents can be very strict, conservative, and may impose too many responsibilities on her. She will need more emotional support and affection from her parents.

Mars in Libra

Jennifer will have a strong feeling for justice and will fight against everything she considers unfair or inhumane. Jennifer will be very comfortable working with other people; she will feel that the results will be better working with a team, although sometimes she could be jealous and competitive. It is very important for her to learn not to be so dependent on other people, or she will lose confidence in herself and will have trouble making decisions in the future. Jennifer will be a charming, generous, sociable, and persuasive person. She will enjoy people and new ideas. Negatively, Jennifer can show a tendency to laziness; sometimes she will not make enough of an effort to get what she wants. As she is so sweet and charismatic, sometimes she will let others do things for her instead of doing them herself. It is very important for Jennifer to have physical exercise as an outlet for the energy flowing through her body; this may help to combat or avoid the tendency to laziness. Her humor and sensitivity are stimulated with music and colors; soft light and harmonious surroundings will balance her bad mood quickly, and relieve depression.

Mars in 3rd House

Jennifer will have a questioning, sharp, and impatient mind. Most likely her decisions will be impulsive and irrational. She will enjoy argument and debate and will have the ability to defend herself verbally, though sometimes she might be overly combative. Her powers of concentration will be intense, but not lasting, which is why she could lose her patience with details and with projects or studies which need lengthy mental effort. Jennifer could even quit school or college if she gets bored. It is a good idea for her to combine her intellectual activities with physical ones. This astrological position can bring conflicts and fights with her brothers and/or sisters if any, or with relatives and neighbors.

Mars conjunct Saturn orb 7° 10'

Jennifer can have a conflict between her actions and her inhibitions. Though Jennifer will have a good ability to organize, it will not be easy for her to control the flow of her dynamic energy. Jennifer must learn to act and to make her aspirations reality, instead of thinking about them without ever making up her mind to do something. Jennifer will look for approval before doing anything, and if her inhibitions are strong enough, Jennifer could become bitter in the future.

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morgana
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posted August 03, 2005 10:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mother - Moon (its sign, house and aspects)
Father - Sun (its sign, house and aspects)

Mother in a woman's horoscope - 10th house and its ruler
Mother in a man's horoscope - 4th house and its ruler

Father in a woman's horoscope - 4th house and its ruler
Father in a man's horoscope - 10th house and its ruler

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JupiterRulesSurely
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posted August 03, 2005 07:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy to help you out Gemini, even though a part of me think you're a bit pushy... This was actually ME asking for help!! But if you're more needy than I am....


Everyone else - thank you very much for your replies!

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 03, 2005 08:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My middle name is needy

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

- Talib Kweli

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted August 03, 2005 09:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uranus in 4th and the description fits me perfectly, I have lived in a lot of different places (including Alaska.) I have had detachment problems in the past, which is still something I am trying to cope with.

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Loggerhead
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posted August 03, 2005 09:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know traditionally the 4th is the mother and 10th the father, but my mother is a Taurus, and my 10th is in Taurus, and even though my father isn't a Scorpio which is where my IC is, his Pluto is exactly conjunct my Moon, and I feel he had a bigger influence on my childhood than my mom. Plus, I have Jupiter in the 4th, and our life had so much more of a Sagittarius-like flavor due to my father's influence....

Just my 10 cents worth...

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morgana
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posted August 04, 2005 03:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loggerhead,

for women the 4th house represents the father, for men it represents the mother. Are you a female?

And, besides the traditional placement, the 10th house represents the parent who has more authority in your life. Not influence, but authority (represented by 10th house).

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posted August 04, 2005 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know what is neat about this?

My Mother is a Capricorn, I have a Capricorn moon.
My father is a Scorpio, I have a Scorpio Sun... in my Fourth house.
My son has a Scorpio Moon. Eighth house Sun in Sagittarius.
Aries rising...
His father? An Aries.

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Loggerhead
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posted August 04, 2005 11:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Morgana, thanks for clearing this up, man! I mean woman. This is great!! Yes, I am female, I think. So things make sense after all.

Pixelpixie, that's really cool how this all falls into place in your chart. Wow!

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scorpbaby
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posted August 04, 2005 12:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my chart there are definate aspects that point to my mother and father.
For example my Sun is Scorpio, which is also my mom's Sun sign. Then my Moon is in Taurus which is my Dad's Sun.

Now, my parents have been split up since my birth, to me this explains the reason the signs are at opposition. My parent's also did not get along at the time of my birth. My mom took the responsibility in raising me and my father was barely there , this would explain how she shares the same Sun as me.
Since the Sun usually represents the Father, in my case my mother had to play the role of provider.

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posted August 04, 2005 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really have any cool stuff like that with my parents.

My mother is an Aries Sun/Leo Moon/Pisces Rising, and my father was a Cancer Sun/Taurus Moon/Scorpio Rising. I'm a Aries Sun/Sagittarius Moon/Virgo Rising. I get along best with my mother.

I have my IC and Moon in Sagittarius, and I have my MC in Gemini. My father's sun is in my 10th, though. My father has nooooooo planets in fire. Only water, earth, and air. My mother has one planet in water. Neptune (Scorpio). Plus her ascendant. Pisces.

I don't mesh well with either, really. Most of my planets are in Earth. My father has three planets in earth. Moon (Taurus) and Pluto (Virgo) and Mars (Taurus). My mother has Venus in Taurus and Pluto in Virgo.

My mother was 3 hours away from being a Pisces, too. I find that amusing.

And here I am with 4 planets in Earth, and 3 in water. Hahahah

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posted August 12, 2005 03:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GREAT FEEDBACK everyone! I just love ya's!

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Cant the sun/moon, mother/father be flip flopped. What i mean is, someone once told me that traditionally yes, the mother was represented by the moon. But that some people are now saying that the parent that is the most nurturing is reflected by the moon etc ... ??? is that correct or no?

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astro junkie
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To me the answer would be more of a "no" because each sex has their own inherent experiences to bring to the table. It's not so offbeat to think that a dad can be motherly. But he's still a male - (unless he's done the change)...

We all have a bit of male and female, but I concur with the old I-Ching way of thinking when I'm really getting into understanding it all. The whole Yin & Yang.

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My 4th house contains Jupiter(My Sag father).

Jupiter(father) opposes my 10th house Sun, Mars, and Mercury (Me).

My Moon/11 (Taurus mother) opposes my Saturn/5(Sag father)

11th ruled by Uranus (me) opposes 5th hs Saturn (father)

Moon (mother) opposes 5th hs (child me?)

My Moon (mother) is in Pisces whose ruler Neptune is in my 7th house in Sagittarius (father). Neptune (mother?) in Sagittarius (father) is square Saturn (father)/5th house(child?).

I have no planets in Taurus (my mother's sign)

Ok...now I'm just rambling aspects. I know there are more connections, but I cant define them yet.

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