posted August 06, 2005 01:15 AM              

Am I being cold or unrealistic? or maybe I don't notice and get a shock?

Is it odd to avoid public displays of affection? and how significant is that to an aqua?

posted August 06, 2005 08:11 AM              

And it's odd, I mean why? I don't feel I can touch him everywhere, should I start???

posted August 06, 2005 09:26 AM              

I think just the fact that you dont feel comfortabel with it is enough for you to realise that there is something not right - he is crossing some boundary line for you. As for slapping your breast and is stinging.........well I didnt like the sound of that at all girl, no I dont think you are cold, just protecting yourself - he sounds like he does have a bit of a problem with boundaries.

I would talk to him and explain how you feel, he is coming across as a bit insensitive - you know like diving straight in there. Theres nothing worse than being grabbed at if you dont want to be is there??

As regard the publice displays of affection - my man used to grab my a**** in the supermarket and stuff, but I liked it, If I didnt I would have told him so (he dont do that so much now - we been together 16 years LOL)!!!

I hope you can sort this one out and good luck with your Aqua man

Love

posted August 06, 2005 09:39 AM              

Bottom line, I am not a piece of meat, or a blow-up doll. I think some Aquas have difficulty telling the difference between these and a real person, and some do like a bit of sadism.

What do you find acceptable to you? You need to let him know what is acceptable to you and what is not, if he continues to transgress those boundaries...maybe you need to think again...

posted August 06, 2005 09:54 AM              

I was more agressive. LOL.

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posted August 06, 2005 10:35 AM              

Think its a combination of "territorial" type marking and affection. Bit like hey look we are so close I can go anywhere..

We aquas or me aqua anyway hate kissing cuddling hugging in public. If we feel the overwhelming need to show affection then we will do it in a stupid and ridciulous manner.

I do similar LESS invasive stuff with my mrs
For example in public/presence of other people instead of just hugging her i get her into a "mock" wrestling position, sounds rough but it isnt, jsut her arm kinda draped over/round my neck, looks hilarious.

aat home whilst watching tv i grab her hand and bite on it gently and leave it in my mouth until she moves or i get bored

I think the biggest thing is the look of shock on your partners face...it amuses us

my mrs just does it back to me...i now do it less randomly and pick my moment

hand up skirt or down your top is probably a bit too far

its all meant to be tongue in cheek /jokey/fun show affection type thing

hope that sheds some light

posted August 06, 2005 01:01 PM              

Natasha,
I will let others chime in but I have to say when I read this thread and your other, some bells when off in my head and I don't mean wedding. Having a Taurus Venus, I dated an Aquarius on and off (it's often on an off with them) for eight years. He was emotionally domineering, moody though to his credit sexy and intelligent. I am a Gemini but I gotta say Aqua men have an air to them that is simply detached. That's it. A cancer guy is about as faraway from an Aqua guy as you are ever going to get.

My expeirence with Leo anything is that it can be gorgeous yet overwhelming, pushy, jockeying in a way. Still the biggest thing that jumps out to me is to have an Aqua man (tendency not to be sentimental, and verbally or emotionallly warm and effusive)meets a Venus Square Pluto!! Yikes:

Venus square Pluto
A square forms between Venus and Pluto suggesting that your emotional life is subject to many problems. Many of these relate to sex. This aspect causes intense emotional and sexual involvements, and sometimes this can be with very DEBASING influences. In extreme cases, this aspect shows involvement with prostitution or other sex related crimes or rituals. Sexual passions are HARD TO CONTROL and properly direct, and romantic ties are in some way fated. It may be any benefit you receive is always accompanied with some negative side effect. What you want and seek is often not what you need, and obtaining the objective or object creates ill effects. Life is full of upheavals and upsets in domestic and professional affairs. There is a need to be more honest and less patronizing with people. Don't make promises unless you intend to keep them. This aspect must be controlled by the free will.

Astrology aspects - Venus square PlutoPluto introduces an element of fate into your emotional affairs, which are likely to be a source of problems in your life. Your intense emotions are liable to dictate the nature of your choices, and you may experience difficulties through being unable to control your desires and passions. This can involve you in relationships that may be basically unsuitable, and which serve to stimulate aspects of your character that may not be to your own or your partner's benefit. At an extreme, such relationships could become mutually destructive and life-spoiling, or degenerate into DEBASEMENT of character.

In general, the personality of those whose Moon sign is in Leo will be strong, proud and courageous by nature, exuding energy and drive. Such individuals relish responsibility and may be prone to take on too much. There is a natural attraction to authority here, coupled with enjoyment of being in the public eye. Persons governed by the Moon in Leo would much rather lead than follow and inherent pride makes them most susceptible to love affairs. The opposite sex finds this individual extremely interesting because of the frequency and sincerity of such affairs. The actions of those ruled by the Leo Moon attract the attention and respect of superiors within the workplace, which can mean only good things as far as any career is concerned. Such individuals are usually encouraging souls, optimistic and generous with money...sometimes a little too much so, which also applies to the display of affection. Nothing is ever done in half-measures by Leo Moon people and they are prone to set high standards, both on a personal level and for others. Anyone with the Moon in Leo will possess a strong intellect and an extreme love of the arts. Occupations are often associated with the theater, music, painting or literature. There is also a devout love of luxury and a grandiose sense of style. Lively in spirit with a desire to make a statement and a definite distaste for being ignored, the individual governed by a Leo Moon has high intelligence and excellent prioritizing skills.

At the moment of your birth, Saturn was in the sign of Aquarius. As a Saturn in Aquarius individual, you may contradict yourself by accentuating your behavior by playing the role of the common­place person. You may place social limitations on yourself because of the Aquarian need to always be an all-around ordinary person. You may go so far as to separate yourself from others by being what you think an ordinary person would be. This separation results in repression of the real you and the frustration that comes from always trying to justify yourself to others.

There's alot going in his chart, but when I hear your voice on the threads and I look at your chart, I wonder if your heart can take what he is all about. Am I totally off base here? (I also think that breast issue is not cool unless you are in to that. Turn on is a two way street or else it's unwanted reckless dominance.)

BTW my Aqua was an extraordinary lover, very very willing to do and be sexual in unusual places. LOL.

posted August 06, 2005 02:50 PM              

I can see the playful side, and I am oversensitive to that. I don't mean to pull away but water people know what I mean when sometimes it's too much, and you just want to be held after a long day or night. I never get the feeling my aqua wants to spend time alone with me, without talking about other people..

At the party, he encouraged me to talk to everyone and I dont' know where he went after he gave me a look that said go mingle. Maybe he was out of sorts, but he loves parties and always wants to go. I was expecting him to show up at some point but he didn't, and a gemini gal friend of mine filled my glass. She eventually led me to him, being smart. We kissed and cuddled then.

In the car, he mentioned how everyone was looking at me and how proud he was to be with me, and how well I handled myself. It was a little silly but I know he was sincere so I didn't say anything.

He also said one woman couldn't stop talking about my breasts, and she must be jealous. I laughed a lot at that one and asked if she was really jealous, maybe she was a little excited? or just laughing at my skimpy outfit-too late I remember he picked it out, so maybe that was it. Anyway then came the slap.

So it was a case of drunken giggling and talking too much.

The problem with me is that I do that.

Natasha

posted August 06, 2005 06:08 PM              

life is so short and you are a marvelous person. i think you deserve to be treated the way you want in the hours you have available to share with a man. i truly wish you magick to find more good times and quickly detach from the bad times. i too, am learning to take my own advice, so please don't take this the wrong way. i was in relationships for 4 years and it's been a year and a half being single since, and am playing the field. i have had similar experiences as you and am feeling more courageous to listen to intuition and detach quickly from negative situations and problems that are seemingly beyond what rational logic and genuine communication can fix.

lots of love to you

posted August 07, 2005 04:43 AM              

What I find so uncanny is that Saturn has moved into your 4th house, in relation to your Sun. When Saturn did the same to me 2 1/2 years ago was when these problems with my Mr. Aqua, similar to what you are experiencing, really started to get serious. I can't believe the similarity of the situation.

posted August 07, 2005 06:35 AM              

Your body = Your rules

posted August 08, 2005 01:06 PM            

Ppl talk about how Aqua's dont like to be kissing and cuddling in public not the Aqua I was with..when we would meet at places and first see each other if the sparks flew then we would melt right into each other right in front of ppl. A big hug and a nice kiss but it was almost like no one else was there.

But if I did not like it I KNOW that he would have respected my wishes and not touched me in public.