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aqua
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posted August 09, 2005 06:07 AM
  
is it possible that people reading about themselves in book as for instance about their sun sign try to act a bit over to what they actually are in real.what i mean here is,i know this girl she is an aquarius and she has read linda's books too.but whenever she talks or does whatever it sometimes seems to be artificial,like as if she is doing this for the doing sake ,just because she is an aquarius she seems to superimpose some of the things.and she keeping adding that aquarious are that way. IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted August 09, 2005 10:35 AM
1. Everyone is vulnerable to suggestion. Everyone. That means, yes, she could have gotten the "bright idea" she said act like this from a book. It also means you could have gotten the bright idea that she shouldn't be acting like this simply because you know she read the book and that suggests to you she's mimicking what she read. 2. Most people have to struggle with some degree of insecurity or lack of self-possession. It's just part of normal maturation. This means they're at times suspectible to being heavily influenced by people and things that may lead them to act contrary to their own genuine self. And at risk of sounding contentious, this can also lead people to be unnecessarily judgemental in order to overcompensate for their own insecurities. 3. I don't know how old this person is, but if she's either young or hasn't had a lot of life experiences to help her discover who she is, this may simply be a means of "testing the prototype" to see how well it fits her. Whether you deem it fake or not doesn't invalidate this means of self-exploration - everyone goes through it in someway. Most as teenagers, when we try out new fads, looks, music, friends, etc, but some later in their lives. 4. Lastly, this begs the question - why do you think you know how she *ought* not to be acting? I would caution strongly against assuming that you do, especially since you're another Aqua. Uranians have a particularly bad habit of thinking they know what other people should do or think, trusting themselves to be smarter and more rational than everyone else. It's not a flattering trait of Aquarius, so perhaps a little self-examination might be a good idea. I may be harsh here, but really, this sounds a terribly petty complaint to me. Whatever this person's issues are, chances are she just doesn't know who she is very well, and deserves a little slack and patience. If she oversteps her boundaries, then be firm with her, but beyond that I don't think you ought to be concerning yourself with this. IP: Logged |
aqua
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posted August 11, 2005 11:52 AM
no no nymph i don't mean to complain!don't take me in the wrong sence!no offence!
and the points u gave completely make sence .
what i mean here is that,she keeps mentioning in that she's an aquarius quite often.it might not be artificial at all!but sometimes it does sound to me (not others maybe)an bit over.i hope i am making it clear.i don't mean to that its true or something.its just that i wanted to share this and get it confirmed or get an idea wheather these kinds of things do happen to some extent.or if there could be some explaination for it. IP: Logged |
Planet_Soul
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posted August 11, 2005 03:02 PM
Maybe she just likes being an Aquarius, and was happy reading and learning more about her Sun Sign. Maybe she's still trying out who she is, and the books gave her some inspiration and self-knowledge. I love my Sign, and I have a purse and a T-Shirt with a Centaur to prove it  I see it as harmless, besisdes how wouldn't love to be an Aqua? Such a cool sign it is.IP: Logged |
aqua
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posted August 14, 2005 12:47 AM
thanks Planet_Soul!!!
ya that could be possible!by the way gemini nymph i was wondering that if u too experience that kind of things too?i just remembered that u have an aqua rising and gemini sun. whereas i am having aqua sun and gemini rising!!! IP: Logged |
aqua
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posted August 15, 2005 02:21 AM
gemini nymph !!
r u angry with me?
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beebuddy
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posted August 15, 2005 10:33 AM
Sure that's possible aqua. But what if you have a crappy sun sign like cancer? Who wants to be a momma's boy that cries non-stop and is afraid of walking in a straight line? Not me thats for sure. IP: Logged |
histrionix
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posted August 16, 2005 02:07 AM
Hey Aqua, don't sweat it - I know EXACTLY what you mean. When I got into astrology, I started sharing discussions about it with some of my friends, who also developed a passion for it. One of them, a Leo, was exactly like your friend, and I think your feelings are spot on - there is no mistaking when someone is 'acting out' with an awareness of something they feel they ought to be projecting, instead of just being who they are. Unfortunately, I think insecurities force some people to seek out astrological validation to prove to themselves and the world that they are as it says they are, if it's positive enough. My Leo friend was a down to earth, semi-social, sweet person, yet once she started reading all that stereotypical sun sign ******** on Leo, she 'forced' it, and couldn't go without mentioning what a big 'Leo' she was, and quoting things from Linda....needless to say, she was rather pitiful, and it can be frustrating for you, as a friend, to stand by and watch it. Sometimes, however, you just gotta let people discover who they are on their own, including let them make certain perceptive mistakes. Hope it all works out. Stay true!  IP: Logged |
aqua
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posted August 18, 2005 07:24 AM
~beebuddy~thanks for replying ,but could u make that point of urs a bit clear?i have'nt actually got it.
~histrionix~
yes u do make a point there.its not that i don't like her ,but its that i just wanted to confirm whether people do act that way or can act that way.
thank!
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histrionix
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posted August 20, 2005 01:16 AM
Bee - a crappy sun sign? Hmmm. IP: Logged |
zoso
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posted August 20, 2005 01:45 AM
When I started reading about sags, I kept thinking "this isn't me at all. What gives?" Then I realized that there are SO many other factors than just the sun sign. Many other aspects can easily outshadow the basic sun charateristics. Maybe you could remind her this and see if she dives into her natal chart and all its facets...you know, like an Aquarian experiment or something. Besides that, Aqua are weird so just let them be. They like it that way. My cousin did the same thing when we were younger, not to mention she'd "remind" me how I was a Sag and therefore [name any traditional undesired Sag trait] etc. etc. Or maybe just play along with it and point out how "typical Aqua" she's acting and maybe she'll do a flip around. (Because, hey, aren't they supposed to be original???) IP: Logged |
beebuddy
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posted August 20, 2005 01:52 AM
Hi, there was actually no argument encoded into that post. lolHistoronix, i've met some folks that fit aqua's description pretty well. most of them were scorpios. none were cancers or pisces or libras or geminis. some of the sun signs just dont seem to be as cool as the others... thus, why try to be more like them? i mean has any interpretation of cancer ever struck you as "cool"? for instance, loves to cook, loves mom, loves boobs, is fat, cries alot, moody... see what im gettin at? scorp or leo on the other hand... dominating, powerful, intense, sexual... it sounds way more cool. IP: Logged |
cancerrg
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posted August 20, 2005 02:03 AM
to put it simply , i feel the answer is yes when we dont understand what exactly we are , i am a cancer (they mature slowly , learning from mistakes ) and i myself think i have learnt a lot from astrology about myself but i have also tried to convince myself that my weaknesses are b'cos of certain aspects of my chart , i know thats a wrong way to see the things but thats a learning process .
may be the aqua gal that u are talking of is going through same .p.s.- gemnymph has some excellent point .let us keep that in mind. IP: Logged |
histrionix
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posted August 20, 2005 11:08 AM
Bee - you're right there, without a doubt, my "hmmm" was in backflip a subconscious nod at the truth in term 'crappy sun sign'. Descriptions of Cancer are absolutely the uncoolest of the zodiac. I have thus never met a typical Cancerian, or at least one that was proud to say they were one, hehe. Like you said, it's easier for the other signs to boast how much like their sign they are, as they have all these cool descriptions to fall back on, and even if they don't have all the traits described, weirdly enough by some birthright they claim the traits. Again, the power of suggestion. I wonder if we started describing Cancers, Scorps and Pisceans, in the traits of say Aries, Leo, Sag, whether they would become like them, and vice versa. Because the truth is, every human being can find inside oneself pockets of every sign. The people that are most like Aqua's friend are those that are the quickest to judge other people by sign as well. They are the first to get to know a person's sign, and then say things like: behind all your bravedo is this and that and blah blah, based on stereotypical descriptions... Cancerrg - I don't know that all Cancers are slow to mature, I've known some pretty damn quick ones, lol.  I've met assertive Pisceans, shy Leos, and really dumb, clueless bloody Scorps with nuthing but vanity issues. My ex was a Scorp with MORON rising. ;p Pretentious people, I don't care whether they use astrology or not as an excuse, just peeve me off.
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moonloon
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posted August 20, 2005 11:14 AM
Firstly, I don't know who decided to give Cancers their descriptions, but I would say they are probably the most misunderstood in the zodiac. I am a double Gem, my girl is a double Cancer, and I know she is always being herself, which is a fabulously strong, smart and sexy person, not much fond of money, marriage or motherhood, as Linda would have me believe. As for Aqua's dilemma, I agree with histrionix's reply about giving her the space to just 'act this out' and see whether this role she is experimenting with feels authentic to her or not. IP: Logged |
cancerrg
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posted August 21, 2005 04:44 AM
yeah histronix,
i agree u might have pretty fast cancers , though i am myself considerd quite adopt at my jobs but deep within i know i made several mistakes that were completly avoidable but i take it as learning process , thats life ! same for the pretensious people,i hope its not directed , if the person is sincere ,then it should be regarded as learning process only .
i agree with moon loon that cancers are the most misunderstood people but i am quite surprised to hear it from a gem . really.
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moonloon
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posted August 21, 2005 07:28 AM
cancerrg - I can imagine you are I'm a Gem/Aries/Gem, and my super-wonder-woman is Can/Sag/Can, with Mars in Cancer, too! She has lots and lots of Cancer in her chart. I've dated a lot of the other signs, but she is by far the best for me. Astrologically surprising, isn't it? I think when Cancers are evolved souls, in all their splendour, they are really amazing people. I have honestly never met anyone so bright, so tough, so honest, and so all out amazing - and we're talking about my triple Cancer girl. I got into astrology, and simply could not decipher how odd it was to read that pure Cancers are weepy, clingy, unable to help their emotions. I haven't found that to be 100%. And as a Gem, I'm ok at sussing people out, I'd like to think. IP: Logged |
cancerrg
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posted August 21, 2005 11:29 AM
I myself think astrology has helped me in certain ways , it has no doubt helped me evolve , to be a better person with more stability , infact LL too has been quite helpful .
earlier , i was this brooding man with grudges , though i hold them even today , i dont find them absurd but yes i have understood to make the difference between a real one and absurd one. i dont take that personally now.AND yeah your alliance is really surprising .
do u know , when i first came to know about the gem's philosphy about life , marriage and children . i was shocked . i have a lot of gem friends but never actually got to know this . they are so tough to crack , ain't they ? its real tough to understand the real emotions of a gem . i am just wondering how your wonderful lady cracked u !
can u put yours and your cancer woman's chart here ? is she in astrology as well ?
btw, i am a triple cancer as well and it really boosts my ego , reading your woman's description .
i love to think my self as strong , tough , funny , selective honest ( i can't be honest to everyone )and yeah amazing ,hehehehe.....
wish u two the best in life , more so b'cos i am always biased towards cancer.hahahahahaha..............
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moonloon
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posted August 22, 2005 01:37 AM
Hey man, it's good to hear of your evolvement as a person happening and improving through the art of astrology. I strongly believe in using learned additonal tools of awareness such as astrology as a filter for emotions - it can be helpful for eliminating some of the more negative ones that don't help you out.What can I tell you about us Gemini folk - I'll let you know when I work it out, dude. My woman just has a way of always sussing me out, and I'm not sure if it's that spot on Cancerian intuition...all I know is I feel loved, guided, understood, appreciated, and extremely blessed and lucky, not to mention wildly entertained. I think she is simply confident about what she feels, and that's the number one thing you Cancers need to remember - be yourself with more confidence. She also doesn't ever take me TOO seriously, I think there's a trick for ya. Anyway, as you requested, here are our info's, so hopefully you find something of interest. Cheers. HER:
Sun 27° 47' Cancer in 1. house Ascendant 08° 45' Cancer
Moon 14° 39' Sagittarius in 6. house 2nd house 01° 23' Leo
Mercury 10° 19' Leo in 2. house 3rd house 22° 49' Leo
Venus 06° 13' Virgo in 3. house 4th house 14° 14' Virgo
Mars 14° 35' Cancer in 1. house 5th house 04° 24' Scorpio
Jupiter 01° 09' Sagittarius in 5. house 6th house 11° 52' Sagittarius
Saturn 28° 03' Libra in 4. house 7th house 08° 45' Capricorn
Uranus 05° 18' Sagittarius in 5. house 8th house 01° 23' Aquarius
Neptune 27° 03' Sagittarius in 6. house 9th house 22° 49' Aquarius
Pluto 26° 40' Libra in 4. house Midheaven 14° 14' Pisces
Vertex 26° 13' Scorpio 11. house 04° 24' Taurus
East Point 16° 38' Gemini 12. house 11° 52' Gemini Aspect Bodies Orb
Trine Sun/Jupiter 03° 22' Square Sun/Saturn 00° 16' Square Sun/Pluto 01° 07' Trine Moon/Mercury 04° 20' Trine Mercury/Uranus 05° 02' Square Venus/Jupiter 05° 05' Square Venus/Uranus 00° 56' Conjunction Jupiter/Uranus 04° 09' Sextile Saturn/Neptune 01° 00' Conjunction Saturn/Pluto 01° 23' Sextile Neptune/Pluto 00° 23'
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Planets: Houses:
Sun 23° 24' Gemini in 1. house Ascendant 08° 56' Gemini
Moon 14° 02' Aries in 11. house 2nd house 06° 06' Cancer
Mercury 13° 17' Cancer in 2. house 3rd house 02° 15' Leo
Venus 16° 55' Taurus in 12. house 4th house 29° 07' Leo
Mars 03° 34' Leo in 3. house 5th house 04° 05' Libra
Jupiter 16° 56' Pisces in 10. house 6th house 08° 28' Scorpio
Saturn 06° 25' Cancer in 2. house 7th house 08° 56' Sagittarius
Uranus 23° 44' Libra in 5. house 8th house 06° 06' Capricorn
Neptune 07° 45' Sagittarius in 6. house 9th house 02° 15' Aquarius
Pluto 04° 01' Libra in 4. house Midheaven 29° 07' Aquarius
Vertex 23° 59' Libra 11. house 04° 05' Aries
East Point 03° 17' Gemini 12. house 08° 28' Taurus
Aspect Bodies Orb
Trine Sun/Uranus 00° 20' Square Moon/Mercury 00° 45' Trine Moon/Neptune 06° 17' Sextile Mercury/Venus 03° 39' Trine Mercury/Jupiter 03° 39' Conjunction Mercury/Saturn 06° 52' Sextile Venus/Jupiter 00° 00' Trine Mars/Neptune 04° 11' Sextile Mars/Pluto 00° 27' Square Saturn/Pluto 02° 24' Sextile Neptune/Pluto 03° 44'
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cancerrg
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posted August 22, 2005 04:40 AM
as u say of the loved , guided , understaood and appreciated , i can realte this to a gem friend of mine .
after all these ( my realtions are norammly very long term one , no short terms for me ! ) yrs. , he told me that i was a role model for him. and all these yrs . , i thought of him as a role model . surprise , huh...
we both have different criterias , ofcourse .
he was a role model b'cos of his ability to gel with almost anyone , even those that he didn't really like , b'cos i have rarely seen people criticising him .
iwas a role model b'cos though i have a diplomatic nature like him , i am the more outspoken one , he says he has been suppressing his true feelings all these yrs . and that has pushed him to be more of a rebel now .
so , he feels my idea of letting the pressure go by speaking your mind is more better .
may be you people connect here and in this way . and infact , i have always felt , mercury is very important for a relation .
b'cos it shows you basic thinking setup and the way u presnt the things .
yours is caner , that connects her with u , again her's leo , giving an air fire connection .
apart from this cancer-gem realtion is pretty friendly normally . your aries and her sag moon give a connection too .
though , i am a novice at astrology (i am more into pyscho aspects) , u people do have a connection.
actually , your realtion gives me more hope
just a few days back , i was talking about an aries -cancer realtion and i feel if both the people are determined , it can be the most passionate realtion .
actually , i dont feel we have basic differnces with aries , the way we have leos , aquas or may be gems .
and yeah ,
cheers to you and your wonderful woman ! IP: Logged |
cancerrg
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posted August 22, 2005 04:49 AM
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be yourself with more confidence. She also doesn't ever take me TOO seriously, I think there's a trick for ya.
THANKS .
i get u. its important .
i have underrstood this and i do feel there has been reamrkable change but the process is still on .
how did your woman understood the cancer deficiency , if she has unerstaood it completly on her on , i guess she is much more smarter than what u have told .
b'cos its really difficult to understand and change ourself that too on our own completly ,isn't it ? with me astro and honest friends were the help.
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aqua
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posted August 23, 2005 04:57 AM
sorrry everybody could'nt reply for a long time.little preoccupied.thanks everyone for replying and sharing ur thoughts here. will get in touch with u soon. IP: Logged |
moonloon
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posted August 23, 2005 09:05 AM
Hey Cancerrg - to answer your question, I think she understands because she never thought of what you talk about as a 'deficiency'. As long as I have known her, she has been like this, but also with her interest in human psychology and also astrology as well. She is simply emotionally intelligent, I think, something I think you Cancers are quite gifted with, if you just worked on your self esteem a little bit more. I have never found her to be 'too sensitive', precisely because she chooses not take herself or others too seriously. She has always made me feel extremely free and relaxed, which in turn is making me so committed it makes me sick! I think with Gemini, it's important to remember that no matter how we seem, we are always taking in the scene, remembering people who were kind to us, and we always admire the great qualities to be found in human kind. Hence your Gemini friend respects you and looks up to you. As for our astrological connections, I don't know, I always thought my woman was very Leonine, but maybe it's because she has the Sun and Mars in 1st house, I don't know. To this day, I still somehow can't see her as a Crab, but she is technically at the end of Cancer - at 27 or so degrees. You have a point about our connections there, although I know most people freak out when they hear I am a double Gem, and she's a double Crab. There's been an astrological bet going in the family that we would kill each other before this relationship ever worked out. We're in it to win it. IP: Logged | |
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