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Planet_Soul
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posted August 09, 2005 04:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a little confused about the difference between Pluto transiting the 12th house(self-undoing) and the 1st (self-idenity). Which transit would be more likely to bring a complete transformation of the self? A change so drastic as to where one virtually feels as if one has died and been reborn?

Pluto entered my sign of Sag in the Fall of 1995, which was the beginning of the end. After that year, I completly changed. Sag occupies my 12th house, and a small part of the first so I don't know if the changes are due to aspects to the 12th, 1st or both?

Have any of you fellow Archers also noticed major changes since Pluto's been in our sign? I'm so looking forward to it leaving and bugging the Capricorns

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posted August 09, 2005 04:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You will most likely (and most strongly) feel that (rebirth, transformation) as Pluto crosses over your Asc. Especially if at that time, Pluto is also aspecting natal planets.

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posted August 09, 2005 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not an Archer, but I have Venus in Gemini and Pluto has been going back and forth opposite it for awhile now. Uggh. I'm looking forward to it moving Direct on Sept. 2nd.

Pluto will exit my 11th house and enter the 12th in a few years too. Dont know what to expect...

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posted August 09, 2005 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG do I have your number
my Asc. is 19 54' Sag.

I was completly caught off guard with this Pluto transit. Pluto is in my 9th house and not dominate.

In a sense it whipped my buttt.
Changes I could not reverse.
Final, finished, finito!

Before Pluto moved into my first house I was dealing with things I really couldn't see and half truths.

With it in the 1st at least you can see what your dealing with.

Hard part is learning to live with Plutos changes and because it moves so slowly you deal with it for long periods.

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posted August 09, 2005 07:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sag rising 13..... Every time in my life that Pluto has been in the 1st house.....serious stuff...cancer surgery twice..throat cut side to side with survival both times...my mom dying unexpectedly of a massive heartache...which was devestating but sort of freed me from some repressions....

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posted August 09, 2005 07:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys! I can relate but in a totally different way... try having yer natal Pluto conjunct yer natal Sun , HEHE!

Anyways, as far as Sag goes... transiting Pluto is conjunct my natal Neptune in Sag, 6th house right now. Oh, and it's opposed my Ascendant. I have been having pretty trippy dreams lately, perhaps this explains things!

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Planet_Soul
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posted August 10, 2005 12:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Makes a lot of sense 26T, my Ascendent is Sag at 29*. Life changing it has been, total transformation. Currently, I'm also dealing with it squaring my natal Pisces Moon. Talk about emotional purging whew. A force to be reckoned with, I'm convinced of that much. I am glad that I've had to deal with Pluto at an early age, its helped to shape the person I am today.

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posted August 10, 2005 12:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planet,

Planets are energy, houses are places where that energy is focused. First house indicates a focus on being: it is a focus on how you do things in life. Twelfth house is about spirituality: it is about focusing on the interconnectedness of all things. An easy way to understand signs, planets, and houses is to remember:
SIGN modifies PLANET focused in HOUSE

Explaining the basics,

Tim

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posted August 10, 2005 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SIGN modifies PLANET focused in HOUSE

Brilliant!

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astro junkie
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posted August 13, 2005 10:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I happen to think that when Pluto has gone through the entire 12th House, is in the latter Degrees of the 12th House and getting ready to enter the 1st House is when the most change would occur. The 12th House would allow for most transformation to occur with minimal resistence (not to say it's easy though) - and prepares Pluto to enter the 1st House, which is very much about personal identity. There is a great feeling of renewal as it goes from the lessons of the 12th, into what we project and our identity in the 1st.

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posted August 13, 2005 10:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Sag rising 13..... Every time in my life that Pluto has been in the 1st house.....serious stuff...cancer surgery twice..throat cut side to side with survival both times...my mom dying unexpectedly of a massive heartache...which was devestating but sort of freed me from some repressions....


I am so sorry Lilygirl


Now I am getting worried. I smoke.

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posted August 13, 2005 10:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The twelfth house is usually the build up to major changes in ones life when Pluto is involved. A friend of mine had Pluto transitting her 11th house a couple of years ago and aspecting a couple of natal planets - she noted at the end of that phase that most if not all of her so called friends had deserted her, as it went into her 12th house her marriage dried up and she seperated. She's sag rising too and Pluto is now just about on her ascendant. I have noticed in her a sort of re-birth, she is building herself back up again and looks set to be travelling down a new road any time now!

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posted August 13, 2005 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing about Pluto is the changes are forced. These are not changes you would voluntarily make on your own.

I really didn't feel it and its effects untill it was within 3-5 degrees before the degree of my Asc.

3 years have passed since then. Its been within a degree and a half of my ascendant, sometimes its still difficult to deal with. Its getting better though.

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Planet_Soul
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posted August 13, 2005 02:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, it did feel forced. To sum it up, I felt that some force in the universe stroke me down and off from my original spirit path. Oddly enough, four years later I felt a similar force which pulled me back onto the path I feel I should of always been on.

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posted August 13, 2005 09:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to digress for a sec, but Pluto transiting the 5th means what? A lover? LOL, sigh.

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posted August 14, 2005 12:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 1ST HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
During this period you may desire increased personal power and physical invulnerability. You may transform your personal appearance and personal expression several times. You may increase your will power, self-confidence, and personal resourcefulness through physical or competitive activities. Through stages of self-improvement you cast off your vulnerable or threatened self- image and assume a stronger, more autonomous persona.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 2ND HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
You may desire greater material security during this period. Initially you may suffer severe loss or destruction of personal property, or severe reversals of fortune. As you recover financial control, you may become more involved in joint finances, corporate funds, taxes, insurance, and pensions. You may become increasingly resourceful and find new uses for outworn or discarded things. You hunt for ways to regenerate wealth and build security.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 3RD HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
During this period you may desire greater access and control over information. You may be prone to discredit through exposed secrets and misuse of confidential information. As a precaution, you may tend to closely monitor and guard your thinking patterns and your communication, eliminating old assumptions and mental attitudes. Freedom of information, free speech, and censorship can be emotional issues. Caution is needed in signing important papers and contracts. Caution also is advised in negotiating traffic when traveling.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 4TH HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
You may desire greater security in your home and family during this period. Initially you may be subjected to disruption or destruction of the home by natural disasters, looting, or forces beyond personal control. Death of kin or drastic changes in the home may require the reform of family affairs. You may be concerned with renovation to improve the home and with genealogy and family history.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 5TH HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
During this period you may desire greater personal magnetism and creative energy. You will tend to discard old attitudes and rekindle your youthful, playful, fun-loving spirit. As your sex appeal also tends to increase at this time, you may become involved in romantic intrigues, sexual jealousy, or unexpected pregnancy. You may enjoy a personal renaissance in your creative endeavors as you become more resourceful in your style and energy. You may also gain greater insight into child psychology and development. If you are prone to risky sports, hobbies, and pastimes, then these may need a reassessment as you may endanger yourself and others.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 6TH HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
You may desire greater job security during this period. You may be interested in improving your work methods and environment, especially in order to eliminate unsafe practices and unhealthy conditions. You may seek improvements in employee benefits through tax, pension, insurance, or profit sharing plans. You may research ways to improve job production and craft quality.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 7TH HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
During this period you may desire greater trust in your close personal relationships. You may terminate old relationships and begin new ones. Your tendency is to be more friendly toward strong-willed, secretive, mysterious individuals. You may become involved in power struggles over issues of security and secrecy. Lawsuits can be over joint finances, corporate money, insurance, taxes, pensions, or alimony.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 8TH HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
You may desire more control over security issues during this period. You may feel emotionally or physically threatened through natural disasters or forces beyond your personal control. Sexual drive and appeal is stimulated along with the survival urge. A death may motivate you to take greater precautions. You may be more involved in joint finances, corporate business, insurance, wills, inheritance, taxes, and alimony at this time.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 9TH HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
During this period you may desire a stronger and more secure philosophy or religious comprehension. Your quest for profound religious, historical, or cultural insights may reveal as much dogma and intolerance as universal truth and wisdom. You may have business or educational involvement with foreigners. At times you may have to deal with conflicting ethical and social values in legal, religious, and cultural institutions. Financial grants and funding for higher education may become available to you.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 10TH HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
You may desire greater political or professional security during this period. Important issues concern public credibility, corporate ethics, product safety, and secret or sensitive information. You may want to improve or remake the power structure and strategies of your business or profession. You may have increased dealings with corporate business and matters related to joint finances, corporate money and shares, insurance, pensions, and taxes.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 11TH HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
During this period you may desire revolutionary changes in society based upon technological advances, social ideals, or political objectives. You may discontinue old friendships and begin new ones with individuals who share your ideals and who you trust. You may be drawn to more secretive, powerful, and influential people. Your group involvement may advocate collective rights such as gender or racial equality. Your tendency is towards extremes of advocating either more or fewer social freedoms.

PLUTO TRANSITING YOUR 12TH HOUSE (approx. 14-30 years duration)
You may desire more control and comprehension of subconscious memory and intuitive processes during this period. At times you may have penetrating insights into psychology and the unconscious mind. You may develop an interest in meditation, psychological de- conditioning, or psychic healing. You are prone to have secret sexual involvement or heightened sexual fantasies. You may devote personal time and service therapeutic, spiritual, or corrective institutions, or to charitable community work.

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posted August 14, 2005 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto packs a punch. When it hits you, you know it. Whatever it contacts in your horoscope gets “transformed”. Pluto is death and rebirth, decay and regeneration. It is very difficult to hold on to something that Pluto is trying to take. Sometimes it is just better to let go. Pluto also rules obsession. An almost insane desire to possess a thing, or a person. The negative side of this planet is more likely to come out during the stressful aspects. The smooth aspects (trine and sextile) can strengthen whatever they touch.
Pluto is the slowest moving planet in the solar system, so its transits to the planets in your birth chart can take about two years or more to pass completely. It can take over 12 years, however, to transit through each of the houses of your horoscope. Pluto’s effect, as always, is to clean things out. Yes, things get reborn wherever Pluto goes, but they have to decay and die first. See which house in your horoscope that Pluto is transiting through to find out which area of your life needs attention. This is important because the processes of Pluto are usually hidden at first. It works something like a volcano with pressure building up for years until it explodes. One the negative side, Pluto rules the “underworld” and illegal activities. Beware of temptation to go this route when Pluto hits.

Pluto Transits Through Your First House: This starts with Pluto making a conjunction with your Ascendant (see Pluto Transits in Aspect to Your Natal Ascendant) , but the effect can last for years. Usually, you will become more assertive. This is the “Nobody better mess with me” transit. It also can bring suppressed feelings and desires up to the surface, things that you don’t want to face. Some tend to become more domineering with Pluto. Others try to suppress this, but find instead that they seem to attract people who try to push them around. Pluto transiting your first house can also make you more aware of things around you, as well as the motivations of the people with whom you come into contact. No, everything hasn’t changed. You are just more sensitive to things under a Pluto transit of your first house.

Pluto Transits Through Your Second House: Watch your money and possessions, especially if transiting Pluto makes stress aspects (conjunction, square and opposition) with any of your natal planets while it is going through this house. Stressful aspects from Pluto tend to destroy things. Sure they can be built back later, but first, they have to hit bottom. Watch out, in particular, for temptation to make money by less than honest means. The Second House rules more than possessions. It also shows what you value, and this includes your sense of self-worth. This transit may not only affect your possessions, but also the very things you value. Get ready to clean house.

Pluto Transits Through Your Third House: During this transit, when you talk, people are more likely to listen, whether you want them to or not. Pluto makes you come on stronger when you speak, but you are not likely to feel anything different, at least until you notice that people are reacting differently to you. The Third House rules siblings and neighbors as well. Pluto transits brings things up from deep inside. If there are stress aspects from transiting Pluto, watch out for trouble here. Any fight or dispute with siblings or neighbors, that develops during this time, could last a long time. On the other hand, if you handle it right, your relationships here could be totally transformed and strengthened. If you are in an occupation such as sales, writing advertising copy, or even therapist, this transit can help you. Your words seem to have extra power now to influence people.

Pluto Transits Through Your Fourth House: This transit starts with Pluto crossing over the bottom of your horoscope, the Nadir. When Pluto does this, it also is opposite your Mid-Heaven, your career, so that area of your life can undergo changes as well for the one or two years that Pluto makes the exact opposition. Be careful of power struggles both at work and home, with bosses, spouses, or parents. Pluto tends to bury resentments, letting them build until they explode . After Pluto passes your Nadir, it will no longer affect career, just your home. Make sure your insurance is paid up. Pluto can break things. However, it is a great time to fix up the house, or even move. If you buy a new house during this Pluto transit, make sure it’s a fixer-upper, a place that needs work. Pluto transits are great for rehabilitation. Be extra careful, though, if the home seems to need little or no work. Pluto rules problems that lurk beneath the surface, such as bad plumbing or termite infestation.

Pluto Transits Through Your Fifth House: This is the house of romance, creativity, and children, as well as gambling and speculation. Pluto is the planet of extremes and obsessions. If you like to gamble, watch out for this one. It can lead to gambling fever, which usually leads to big losses. The same is true of the stock market. Astrology aside, it’s usually a good idea to keep the bulk of your retirement somewhere safe. That is especially true during a transit like this, especially if Pluto is making stress aspects (conjunction, square, or opposition) while going through this house. You may become obsessed with gambling during this time, but the same is true for other Fifth House matters, like sports, games, or hobbies. Enjoy, but be careful about going overboard. If you are in the creative arts, however, what the heck. Pull out all the stops. You may do something really great. Of course, the 5th House rules Romance. Any love affairs at this time are less likely to be light flings. More like obsessions. Watch out for jealousy, which is another Pluto problem. Relationships can have a therapeutic effect on you during this transit. Or they can drive you to therapy. Pluto rules extremes, after all. Be careful of power struggles with children (yes, that happens). And try not to drive them too hard while Pluto is around.


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posted August 14, 2005 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
exellent information
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posted August 14, 2005 02:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, here's the rest of the houses.

Pluto Transits Through Your Sixth House: This is the house of both day-to-day work and health. What most books don’t tell you is that Transits of slow moving planets through this house can begin a long term health problem, but you don’t notice the results until years later, sometimes until the planet is ready to transit into the next house. Well it’s always a good idea to get regular check-ups anyway. Pluto is also Rehabilitation, and you are more likely to want to fix your body up at this time. But remember that Pluto rules Obsession too. Watch out for a tendency to overdo it. You know, like that special diet to loose weight fast. Just starve yourself for 6 months. If you are going to be extreme at all, try being extremely moderate. Be careful of office politics and strains with co-workers and subordinates during this transit. Pluto rules large scale forces beyond our control, such as the higher-ups in your company deciding to downsize your department. Even if you’re self-employed, you will have to watch out for changes in your industry that can force you to the unemployment line. You are best off if your job involves something Plutonian, such as wreaking or re-building, therapy or re-habilitation.

Pluto Transits Through Your Seventh House: Be careful of entering into any partnership when Pluto transits your 7th House. On the negative side, Pluto rules power struggles and underhanded behavior. No, this does Not mean that every partner is going to turn on you or that every person you interact with is going to try to do you in. But there is a tendency for things like that to happen during this transit. Make an extra effort to keep communications with partners open. Resentments tend to be unexpressed at this time. They will just build and blow up later, so take early action to keep this from happening. In a marriage, the passions can increase. Either you or your spouse may want to do it more. Make sure you’re in good shape.

Pluto Transits Through Your Eighth House: Wow! The planet of sex in the house of sex! Keep your pants on. This is also the house of other people’s money. Be careful not to get overextended with debt during this transit or you’ll wind up in bankruptcy. On the plus side, if your business requires large amounts of borrowed money, you can pull off deals bigger than you ever have before. Watch out, though, for that downside potential. Make sure that creditors can’t pull the rug out from under you. This transit is also a good time to fix things up. Anything from your house to your body. Be careful, however, when Pluto makes stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) to other planets in your horoscope.

Pluto Transits Through Your Ninth House: This is the house of religion, philosophy, “higher mind”, the principles we live by. Pluto is extremes and obsessions. When Pluto hits, everything Feels differently. During this transit, you may become more fanatical about beliefs you already hold. Or you may junk them entirely and devoutly believe something totally different. There will be a tendency to engage in debates involving general principles. Be careful not to pull out all the stops when discussing gun control of same sex marriages. It’s only a discussion, not a matter of life and death. The 9th House is also the house of higher education and long journeys. This is a good time to take a course, especially if it is about a Pluto subject, such as psychology, biology, archeology, sociology, anthropology, paleontology. If that’s not your cup of tea, start reading mystery stories. Any knowledge or information concerned with the mysterious or death and rebirth will tend to appeal now. Any long trip you take should be to someplace a bit mysterious. Perhaps a place with archeological ruins. But watch out if Pluto makes a stressful aspect to a planet in your chart. That could cause danger on long trips from people who are not so nice.

Pluto Transits Through Your Tenth House: This transit begins when Pluto passes over the top of your horoscope, your Mid-Heaven (example: Pluto Transits in Aspect to your Natal Mid-Heaven). This can produce major changes in career. One client had a business that was ripe for franchising and Pluto hitting his 10th House would have been the perfect time to expand. He wanted things to stay as they were. Shortly after Pluto hit, his lease was up and the landlord decided to more than double the rent. He couldn’t pay so he had to close. With Pluto, you grow or die. Be careful of any desire to succeed at “all costs”. With this transit, there are frequently increased temptations to “cut corners” and break rules. And laws. Remember Pluto is extremes. The highest and the lowest.

Pluto Transits Through Your Eleventh House: This is the house of friends, hopes, and wishes. What most books don’t tell you is that this house also rules groups of people. During this transit, there is a possibility of being strongly attracted to a group. Pluto rules obsessions. Watch out for cults. On the other hand, you may become affiliated with a group that has positive goals and devote a lot of time to them. Even then, however, be careful of overdoing it. Friendships tend to change under this transit. You will find that some old friends just don’t appeal to you any more. Other friendships intensify. If Pluto makes stress aspects to planets in your birth horoscope while transiting this house, you will have to be careful of betrayal by a friend, or what you view as a betrayal. Your hopes and wishes will be affected as well. Some of them will no longer seem attractive and you will let them die. And you may become fanatic about other goals. Pluto transits give the energy and focus to really achieve things. Just be careful not to overdo it. Few goals are worth putting yourself in intensive care.

Pluto Transits Through Your Twelfth House: This is the house of “self-undoing”, the dustbin of the horoscope where we throw things that we don’t want to deal with. Pluto loves to go through dustbins and dumpsters. During this transit, old psychological problems, that you thought you had dealt with years earlier, come up again and demand to be heard. Don’t panic. Just face them (easier said than done, but you have to do it). This is also the house of hidden enemies. No, you are not standing there minding your own business and these nasty people come at you. Check your own behavior to make sure that you are not doing something to irritate them and set them off.

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