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Loggerhead
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posted August 14, 2005 02:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have any of you tried your hand at Davison charts? I only just read about it the other day.

A Davison chart is a composite that instead of using the midpoints of two people's natal charts, it calculates the midpoint BIRTH CHART, in other words, the birthday that falls in the midpoint betw. 2 people's birthdays.

It is supposed to be very revealing -- and not always what you expect to see. It's not necessarily a confirmation of the regular composite, but something totally new.

I my case for instance, it turns out now that instead of a Sun and Moon trine in synastry and a Sun Moon conjuction in the composite, I now have a Sun and Moon square with my friend which supposedly means basic incompatibility, and the two people moving in different directions, unless there are strong favorable factors in the rest of the chart.

Any ideas, anyone? You can btw. choose the Davison chart at astro.com.

You can read about Davison here: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/relationshipdavidson26.0.htm

If you scroll down you'll see that he also talks about event Davison charts, something I am hugely interested in and am experimenting with it right now.

Let me know what you think!

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Loggerhead
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posted August 14, 2005 08:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I can't compete with a sexy thread like Mars & S**, but, c'mon people... relationships, composites, love, duh........ anyone remembers those things......??

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posted August 14, 2005 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi logger(head),
I just tried one of these- it is very interesting. I have a question- on astro.com it has two options - corrected and uncorrected- do you know what this means?
I did the corrected, sounds more accurate... lol
I actually like this better than the composite chart with this person. It makes more sense in this case.
An Aquarius ascendant, (Virgo in composite). The two of us definitely project Aquarian vibes when together- we act mostly like friends in front of others, we share an interest in humanitarian work, we act silly, aloof and nutty (all this mostly in front of others). Mars in 12th conjunct asc.- sexually it has been complicated (a lot of repression on his part due to an extreme religious upbringing), and it's always been this buried issue and force. Venus in 11th- we are friends first and foremost, but it's conjunct Neptune, and we do have a lot of confusion about our feelings, as well as problems in the past with over-idealizing things. There has also always been a secretive side to our connection- and a definite spiritual bent (especially when there was talk of conversion.. yikes )
Sun in 9th- moon in Virgo in 7th, Pluto in 8th- it all fits. Thanks for sharing this- I never even knew this existed.

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Loggerhead
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posted August 14, 2005 09:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great, whiterabbit, glad you liked it. Did you also read the article above? He talks about an event Davison chart, not as something that's proven to work, but he demonstrates it with two charts. You take the natal chart, and the event chart, and make a Davison chart, (only thing is you must know the exact time of the event.) I did it with a couple of things that happened to me, and it was quite revealing.

Exciting, isn't it? Always something new...

When it comes to astrology, just like most other things, the web really rocks.

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geminstone
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posted August 15, 2005 02:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband and I have been using this chart for about 2 years. The way that this chart is put together gives an actual day, time and, location therefore, it is very much the birth chart of the energy created by the individuals involved. This energy is unique to the particular individuals involved, as well. I favor this chart, to the Composite, because of the actual planetary placements in the 'birthday' , it can be used to do progressions and, transits... the Composite can only be used as it is. I am going to try making one using an event, as you said Loggerhead... sounds interesting I love these charts, so glad to see the excitement shared

~ geminstone

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Taurus80
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posted August 16, 2005 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow this is really interesting loggerhead, thank you!!!!

do you by any chance know any sites that can interpret the findings?

thanks~

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proxieme
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posted August 16, 2005 07:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've played around w/ my hubby's and my Davison - I find that it has some relevant things to say
For instance, our Moon (in Pisces in the 4th) is in Grand Trine with our Mars (Cancer, 9th) and Uranus (Scorpio, 1st) - interesting in that both of us individually have rather strong Uranus...es (Urani?) and Mars in our charts. We also have Venus, Saturn, and Jupiter in the 11th - again, interesting because we both have prominent Aqua in our charts (Me: Moon, He: Sun & Venus). And what's it called when you have 2 Planets Trine and then both of those sextile with another, 3rd Planet? We have one of those, too - Sun (Leo, 10th) with Neptune (Saggi, 2nd) pointing to Pluto in Libra in the 12th.
Curiouser and Curiouser.

But I've also found that the mid-point composite does, too. (Quick Example: Our Sun and Moon are both in the 4th and we're married - and got so fairly quickly.) The Sun? Aquarius. The Moon's Pisces. We then have Mars in Pi in the 5th and Venus in Gem in the 7th. Once again, Mars and Uranus seem to play a fairly large role (and're in a T-Square w/ the Sun - wheee!) and we have our Sat & Jup in the 11th. Hm, and another of those Trine/Sextile/Sextile things, but w/ PlutoTSunSUranus. We do have the benefit of a lovely Merc in the 3rd.

Our synastry's fun - mostly "red lines", quite a few t-squares. It's safe to say that we, er, "excite" each other. It's also safe to say that we need to channel that energy constructively or we get on each other's nerves.


It's fascinating how the different comparisons play out.

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proxieme
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posted August 16, 2005 08:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a question:

Do you see the NN and SN of your Davison and mid-point comps playing out?

If so, how?

Ours for both: 1d Leo in the 9th

Hm, that's interesting: My individual Moon's @ 1d Aqua in the 3rd, his Sun's @ 1d Aqua in the 3rd.
Wonder how that'll turn out?

Does that mean we'll have to move away from "ourselves" for this relationship to work?
(Something that might not be too terribly odd - with my Pisces Sun/Aqua Moon and his Aqua Sun, we're both...not ourselves to be ourselves, if that makes any sense at all.)
Or will we have to move away from this relationship for us to work?

Again, curiouser and curiouser.

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Hexxie
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posted August 17, 2005 11:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loggerhead - I just tried a Davidson chart last night after I did a Compostie chart. I don't understand what the difference between the 2 are?! I read what you 1st posted, but it still makes no sense to me cuz the 2 charts come out so different from each other!! Why is this? I would like to post them but not sure where to pull up the list on astro.com as I was just looking at the chart wheels.

Many thanks to anyone who has any insight

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~Libra Sun / 29* Gemini Rising / Aquarius Moon~

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Loggerhead
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posted August 17, 2005 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hexxie, Geminstone explains it nicely:

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My husband and I have been using this chart for about 2 years. The way that this chart is put together gives an actual day, time and, location therefore, it is very much the birth chart of the energy created by the individuals involved. This energy is unique to the particular individuals involved, as well. I favor this chart, to the Composite, because of the actual planetary placements in the 'birthday' , it can be used to do progressions and, transits... the Composite can only be used as it is. I am going to try making one using an event, as you said Loggerhead... sounds interesting I love these charts, so glad to see the excitement shared

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by "not sure where to pull up the list on astro.com as I was just looking at the chart wheels." ??

As for the Davison being completely different from the regular composite - that's because it's completely different data, not the midpoints of each person's planet, but a whole new chart of a different date and place. What you are probably asking is, which one is more valid? Only you can answer that question.

I find both charts apply in my case (with my husband). What is interesting -- and puzzling -- is that while the house emphasis is completely different, the aspects are almost identical. Which is amazing, since we are talking about totally different data. But I have done a Davison with a different person, and there it does look completely different from the regular composite. I haven't had time to look into all of this more closely as I was busy, but I will keep you posted!

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geminstone
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posted August 17, 2005 06:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just peeking at and, finding the differences in house positions and such, in the Composite and Davison charts, of hubby and I.... very interesting. I'm only very primitive still in my interpretation/understanding but, from this, everything I have seen, while comparing, seems to fit.... hmmm... makes me wonder about how the Composite would compare to the progressed Davison....

~ geminstone

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gemini girl
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posted August 18, 2005 02:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you so much for posting this ive been meaning to like try and understand but guess these days if ur not i dunno late 20 dont ask anything about relationships anyways so i did the davidson chart if venus jupiter and true node conj what role does t. node play its not karmic right thats s.n i guess lol and mars chiron in 12th house chiron being 12th house any ideas where i can find info on these placements thanx guys

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