posted August 18, 2005 11:33 AM              

Your post is too funny, but I truly feel you and can relate. I also am a Pisces (sun), Venus in aqua, but my Mars is in Pisces as well. I don't think I am aggressive. Sometimes it's so frustrating, because I know I be d*mn well intrested in someone, but play it so cool like I don't care. I'll tell you one thing though I done let some pretty good catches get away from my laidbackness.

Many say I'm hard to read and very detached. I think next time you see him ask for his number, since you know he's interested!

posted August 18, 2005 11:37 AM              

I play hard to get also. If it is someone I am interested which is hardly. I flirt. I can be shy also.

A taurean friend of mine whom I have seen in action does the same LOL. it's funny watching her.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

posted August 18, 2005 11:45 AM              

As an adult she's always been the one to ask the guy out, or at least be very upfront about her attraction to him. In ending realtionships she's always been the dumper, never the dumpee. She considers herself very assertive romatically and sexually, and is more than comfortable being the "dominant" in any intimate relationship.

This chick is...me! LOL

I have:
Gem Sun, 10th house, conjunct Mercury
Pis moon, 7th house and conjunct DC
Gem Venus, 9th house, conjunct Saturn
Aqua Mars, 6th house, conjunct NN and vertex
Virgo Pluto, rising
Libra Uranus, 1st, cardinalsingelton forming an air gand trrine iwht my Sun/Merc and Mars

I think the combination of all above makes me as aggressive as I am, but the key is that air grand trine - this makes me very self-possessed, and confident in what I *think* (as in "I think I'm attracted to that guy"). Grnad trines tend to give people a "take or leave it" attitude, which is how I often am with guys. This helps me cope well with rejection as well as giving a guy the boot when I'm fed up with him.

Aqua Mars is strangely aggressive in the sexual arena - it has a lot of self-possession and detachment over its own sexual energies that it can use for its advantage. It is a very hard Mars placement to seduce - it normally wants what it wants, and blows off the rest. If Aqua Mars can't have what it wants, it simply and walk away. This often gives the native a bit of "immunity" to the kind of fears other people struggle with, so we can be more outgoing.

posted August 18, 2005 11:53 AM              

What you say about Pisces Sun is so very true. My dad who is widowed, very handsome, an excellent cook, beautiful home, etc... is going through this now. He has not a clue how many women are interested in him. And then he just freezes even when I think he fancies somebody. He'll share all these plans sort off laughingly off handedly with me about who he is going to take for a drive and ice cream. Then I ll ask him if he did,a nd he'll say no. I don't want to let he rdown. She'll want to go out every Friday. I just want to work in my garden....

He has Aqua Venus too. Oh and my Doc friend is like that too. If you're paying very close attention, you can begin to see when A Pisces Sun/Aqua Venus is interested and having a tough time getting that out (You guys will actually begin to share in conversation, maybe suddenly ask lots of interesting questions). But I would imagine that it can be very very tough on those who are winding up to really like you. Send him a message of some sort.

And to answer your question, I would say that aggresiveness also has to do with one's Venus. I am Gem with Aries Mars/Moon and I cannot be the initial aggressor. I think this is because of My Venus in Taurus 5th House.

posted August 18, 2005 12:04 PM              

I can't say for sure that this would be the reason, it is just something I have noticed over the years.

Leo can be highly dramatic and volatile when riled. But I have also seen this in Aries, Sag, Cancer and Virgo to name but a few ha ha ha I think a lot of it has something to do with built up inner emotions which they cannot get out properly or have not dealt with psychologically and use it as a weapon against whoever happens to be silly enopugh to give them the time of day - which unfortunately most of the time is ME... LOL

posted August 18, 2005 12:22 PM            

dreamyeyez: I am feeling you on losing out I do not want that to happen with out knowing at least we mad a small connection. I am so laid back it is ridiculous but what I have figured out thanks to a girlfriend of mine he is alot laid back himself.. I see it also..

Mystic Gemini: I am not playing hard to get I guess I may be hard to get.. Gemini's are aggressive aren't they? Go for it girl..

Gemini Nymph: That is to funny I can see you doing that. I like what you said though due to you being that way you are always the Dumper and never the Dumpee, makes sense and I am thinking about that..

LilyGirl: Your dad sounds like a BIG OL SWEETHEART..We Pisces love to dream of what we could be doing..I let go of things easy like that too..Oh well I will do it next time, that is what I kept saying about this guy I will see him next time and tell him and this keeps happening..Oh I see no wonder you are so smitten about this Doc friend of yours he is alot like your Daddy... :-)

Viper: Yes babe you are on the wrong thread that lst comment was funny though..

posted August 18, 2005 01:50 PM            

I think you are onto something here:

"Pluto conj ascendant (I've only seen guys with this placement though) is pretty assertive as well.. probably not as aggressive as in raw aggression.. but the person tends to have an edge. "

I'm a Sag female with that aspect and while I am assertive in conversations, I don't often approach the person romantically. Typically, I will make major eye contact and smile - then they come up to me and we start talking. If I want to see them again, I will comment on some mutual interest and see if he bites- if so, they will normally ask for my number. If not, then it's not a big deal.

There have been a few men though, that have made me weak in the knees but I wouldn't approach them LOL....

posted August 18, 2005 06:01 PM              

If I am countered I am usually defensive, though people call me aggressive (if that makes sense).

posted August 19, 2005 12:35 AM            

kisses,
Laura

posted August 19, 2005 01:34 AM              

it's a pulling-in energy I think.

The most agressive person I know is my Aries GF. She has Aries SUN/ASC/MERC/VENUS..in the 1st HSE with an Aqua MOON in the 11th.

posted August 19, 2005 06:31 PM              

I have Mars conjunct Sun and Mercury in Aquarius 10th house. Hmmm, in the relationship department I dont think Im aggressive. But I can be highly aggressive in intellectual, humanitarian and work related endeavors.

posted August 20, 2005 12:17 AM              

Well, Mars/Pluto for me is difficult sometimes, especially in the 4th house.
It basically amplifies what I already have going with Mars. So if I feel like being my lazy Libra Mars self I will do it almost compulsively without any regard for responsibilities. I have great amounts of energy in the home however. So what I often do is laze around on the computer, read, play with my daughter, talk on the phone, whatever self-indulgent thing it happens to be on any particular day, and then an hour before my husband comes home I speed through the house and straighten, clean and finish my duties.

Sometimes this Mars/Pluto energy manifests itself as red-hot anger. While I do have a long fuse (thanks Libra) once I've popped, look out. I can really hurt people both verbally (PLuto conj. Merc) and physically.

There is definately a dark, selfish side to this placement and can turn to rage when things aren't going my way. It's this blinding need to control my environment at any cost. Once, (while drunk) years ago before my husband and I married, I went into an absolute blinding rage and started swinging at him because he called me a..cu-**. It was very scary for me, but it lives in those with Mars on Pluto. I cried uncontrolably and was more than just ashamed with my behavior.

It also tends to make me active sexually in terms of needing the physical release, even if it's by myself. Sounds strange coming from a Venus Virgo doesn't it? Previously the Venus/Moon/Sun Virgo was very guilty about this needful desire, but eventually I came to terms with it.

So.. there ya go. I ask you the same question now. How does your Sun/Mars conjuntion play out for you?

You are also Aqua Sun correct?

posted August 23, 2005 10:40 PM              

Ouch, Mars/Pluto in the FOURTH HOUSE!! I can see how that would manifest in an aggressive and dominating need for power and control at home, with your family, and people you are emotionally close to. And it's no surprise you swore at your husband! Most Virgos I know have a problem with swearing, period. My Virgo sister is truly an exception though. And you have Pluto conjunct Mercury! I don't think I would want to get in a fight with you Oh your poor husband! Of course with an aspect like Pluto/Mars you would have to find sexual release, even by yourself, for your health and sanity. How old were you when you came to terms with it? That's an interesting aspect...thanks for shedding some light on it.

Yes Im an Aqua sun. My Sun-Mars conjunction can make me a very impatient person...but I think I hide it well...it's usually my head that has to be on the move, and people cant tell what I'm thinking most of the time. With Mars conj Sun, fighting and arguing is only natural for me, so I find myself controlling any tendencies around people who are less sensitive and during times when it isnt appropriate. And I also have Mercury conjunct Mars, which means I have to hold my razor sharp tongue. Having my Mercury come before Mars makes that easier to do. Does Pluto come before Mars in your chart? In readings I usually come out as the queen of swords.

posted August 24, 2005 02:24 AM              

If I try to play hard to get it looks like a game and there is bitterness on both sides. I can't play any game, or hide any feelings. It's harder this way than the way a Scorpio or Cancer plays it, but the only benefit is that I get to move on quickly and be myself and respected for it.

Once I cling, I lose all respect for myself and I can sense the interest in me fading too.

My Cancer Moon secretly wishes to cling, so I cling to work, movies, friends, pets, art. I keep it light and social and fast paced and typically date 5-10 men a month.

Lately it's harder for a man to get to know me as I do not like to share any of my painting or hobbies, I can't handle the criticism and I get moody that way. I don't have this problem with Cancer Suns.

If you remember that you are not settling down with this guy, the it's easier to ask him out.

Gemini Nymph, I am dating a Moon in the 7th right now and it's the first close relationship I have had with this placement. It's interesting!

posted September 01, 2005 01:00 PM              

Good Luck with this buff man...glad you gave him a little something!!

Keep us posted!

posted September 08, 2005 02:39 PM            

I know 2 right now and they both act almost the same. I atleast thought the Libra/Pisces would be more earthy then the Libra/Sag.

posted September 08, 2005 02:45 PM              

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

posted September 08, 2005 03:49 PM              

Well my husband, son and dad do !!!!

And actually Libra men do seem to be drawn to me.....until they know what I am made of and then they ....... R U N !!!

posted September 08, 2005 04:08 PM              

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."