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LILYGIRL
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posted August 18, 2005 01:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With all due respect, I had no intentions of raising this questions yet another thread has simply sent my brain a tick-tocking.

So. Is it possible to be a fabulous energetic wild lover if you have little or no FIRE and EARTH in your chart? Seriously. If you are too much air (all talk no action, blah blah ..), or too much water (oh no you're hurting me)can you be tortuously, memorably, undeniably, lick your lips, "good"?

Please do not digress. Stay on topic, and if you do not wish to reference yourself, reference a former lover. LOL.

PS: I like a balance, plenty of talk (air) backed up with plenty of intense action (earth) and a splash of emotion and a tablespoon of spark to round it out.

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pixelpixie
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posted August 18, 2005 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is where there are no holds barred.
Of course Astrology influences everything, whether we choose to acknowledge it or listen to it.. but also.. so does just living in the world.
If there is something I want to be, and I believe in myself and my capacity to do it, I will do it.
If I want to be a sensual person, love sex, be an animal.. who says I have to be a Scorpio or Leo or Aries to do it.....
We are what we evolve to be.. and even if you are inclined to not be a wild sexual person, can you , with the proper incentive and drive, become what you want to? Like studying for a masters..... you master what you want. Focus on your positives, and make them come out in a uniquely channelled way.
We are what we choose. *Within boundaries and disciplines of our personality*

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Duality
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posted August 18, 2005 02:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Lily,

What planets do you consider? All 10? what about the asc?
If you take only the 7 main ones, I have only one fire (saturn - bwahahaha) and one earth - Jup in Virgo, no less.

It changes if you consider the 3 outer ones and the asc.

I understand you have lots of Air? Me too. Do tell.

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1scorp
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posted August 18, 2005 02:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my personal not so very experienced opinion, I think that astrology adds a flavor to sexual energy.

I believe it has to do with how comfortable each person is with each other and themselves.

Not necessarily due to astrology, as one may be too much or not enough for one, but great for another... all matters of personal preference I think.

*Edited - clicked submit without wording correctly.

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Scorpio sun, venus, mars and mercury
Libra moon and asc.

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 18, 2005 02:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the following lineup:

Air ---- SUN, Mercury,
Earth -- Venus, Pluto, Jupiter
Fire --- MOON, Mars, Uranus
Water -- Neptune (Scorpio my only H20)

I don't know. Pixie raises some good and provocative points. I am very inexperienced sexually and a bit repressed. I do not think that is my natural disposition. In another space and time without the yoke of conservative faith I suspect I would be extremely wild and liberated --though with a special hunted down,throughly investigated and super chatted up gentleman. LOL.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 18, 2005 03:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lily, sexuality is as individual as anything else about you. Sexiness and what is sexually appealing is very relative to a person's own indivudality. That someone not sexy or doesn't not sexually behave in more conventional ways doesn't mean they are not sexy at all. Also sex appeal cannot be measure in terms of "experience" either , as sexuality is more about how we think about ourselves in relation to sex and other people as it does about actually having sex. All this mean is you're an indivdual - you should explore in whatever ways is comfortabel for you, and to cherish that about yourself rather than judge yourself by what others do.

I have very little of either fire or earth in my chart - I'm mostly air with a water moon. What I find sexy isn't conventional - I do not like men who are muscluar, "manly" or look like they could pose for Playgirl. I like a guy who's smart, funny and creative. That's sexy to me. I'd sooner sleep with Jon Stewart than Aston Kutchner (whatever his name is LOL) ANYDAY.

I think my own sex appeal lies likewise in my own intelligence, humor and creativity - at least that's how I've always been able to hook up with any guy. I'm not that physically attractive by conventional standards(although Cancer men do seem to like the size of my breasts) - I'm not blonde, tall, or skinny and my face is a little odd (although I do not think I'm ugly). But I'm ok with all of that - I recognize what I am, that I am sexy in my own way and that there are men, who recognize their own indiviudality in their sexuality, who find me attractive too.

In order to be comfortable with yourself sexually, you don't have to be wild or anything. You simply need to recognize yourself as an individual and that your indiviudal trtaits and preferences are OK. If you are struggling with problems with self-esteem or past exepreicnes that make you feel inhibited sexually, it might not be a bad idea to get some consuling - a counsoler or psychotherapist can help you walk through a lot of question you may have never thought to ask youself, and in turn help you better understand who you are. I suggest seeing either a counsoler or psychotherapist also because sexuality s such a senstive issue that it's usually better for most people to discuss their questiosn and difficutlies in a secure, confidential environment. I hope you'll at least consider it.

At least in the meanwhile know that no one's born prefectly sexually secure. We all have our own issues to contend with. Sexuality is simply part of being human, and like everything else about ourselves, it takes a lot time and a lot of growth for us to understand ourselves well. So don't be so hard on yourself.

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 18, 2005 04:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no idea.

I have all this:


born on 19 June 1982 local time 07:49 am
in New York, NY (US) U.T. 11:49
74w00, 40n43 sid. time 00:42:31

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Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Gemini 27°52'09 12 direct
Moon Taurus 29°31'58 11 direct
Mercury Gemini 07°46'37 11 direct
Venus Taurus 22°54'09 11 direct
Mars Libra 08°19'27 03 direct
Jupiter Scorpio 00°32'22 04 retrograde
Saturn Libra 15°29'54 04 stationary (D)
Uranus Sagittarius 01°34'37 05 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 25°36'24 06 retrograde
Pluto Libra 24°10'45 04 retrograde
True Node Cancer 13°22'33 12 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 27°29'48
2nd House Leo 17°27'11
3rd House Virgo 11°17'51
Imum Coeli Libra 11°33'31
5th House Scorpio 18°15'37
6th House Sagittarius 25°34'35
Descendant Capricorn 27°29'48
8th House Aquarius 17°27'11
9th House Pisces 11°17'51
Medium Coeli Aries 11°33'31
11th House Taurus 18°15'37
12th House Gemini 25°34'35


quote:
I do not like men who are muscluar, "manly" or look like they could pose for Playgirl.

Ugh me too

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virgolibra69
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posted August 18, 2005 04:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you positive you have no Fire because I thought I didn't either until I got into looking at Asteroid!

Sun Vigro, Moon Aquarius, Mercury Libra, Venus Virgo, Mars Capricorn, Jupiter Libra, Saturn Taurus, Uruanus Libra, Neptune Scorpio and Pluto Virgo.

Then I found Asteroids

Chiron Aries
Eros Leo

But I think if you have lots of Earth you can be quite Sensual!!!!

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Loggerhead
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posted August 18, 2005 05:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I missing something here? You are not talking about yourself, Lilygirl, are you? You only have Sun and Mercury in Air, (hardly an air head ) and 3 planets each in Fire and Water. What more do you "need?" -- I am just confused that what looks like a pretty balanced chart - whatever that means, I never saw your wheel - would prompt you to have doubts about your sexual prowess, lol. (Conservative faith??? -- that could of course be a bummer. But: it all depends who you are with, no? I you accept that faith, then it's part of you, so why does it bother you, but if it isn't and you reject it, well, then you can be as wild as you like, perhaps?)

I would think with Moon and Mars in Fire signs and Venus in Taurus in the Fifth, you are in pretty good shape, sexually speaking.

I'm not really clear what you are asking. (Sorry, maybe I'm dense today?? Must be the heat, lol)

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sthenri
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posted August 18, 2005 06:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trusting is sexy, most agree sexy is feeling comfortable with the idea and that comes from some kind of trust. Whether real or not.

Water signs do trust, air is experimental, one of the most comfortable arrangement is air with earth moon in terms of feeling good with trust, being sexy one on one. It' is repressed a bit, but very good within a relationship. Once I was in a relationship with this combination and he was very sexy, and willing to be open and comfortable with anything as long as it was comfortable and didn't involve pain.

Once i started becoming sexually active, I was amazed at how many men like some pain, giving or getting. I do not like this and so I think sexy is caring and deep, that doesn't always involve fire.

I have a lot of fire and I have had to learn to be more sensitive and caring in the present, practical way with my lover. In other words, I have to get off my selfish butt and be committed more often to making my lover happy with his surroundings.

Fire doesn't care where! Mars in Sag/1st house, I like the outdoors, camping, hiking, whereever, I am not concerned with my surroundings as long as there is privacy. something I've had to change, but I do like some delusion that there is romance regardless of the setting.

I was not a good lover I thought, until I was told, too sensitive. However I believe I make lovers by talking and looking, so we all have our strengths. I have two or three lovers right now and its' all about the touches, not the sex.

Natasha
Taurus/6th
Cancer Moon/8th

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 18, 2005 06:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys are too cool...cute too. I love LLs.

LOL. Actually I was not talking about myself or concerned about my prowess only the appropriate fulfillment of it. I could probably give way too many folks a work out not to mention a heart attack.

I was merely intrigued by comments made on another threrad about Aqua Venus. It was typical spur of the moment Gemini blurt out. I simply wondered if having alot of air or water and little or no earth or fire impacted hot flaming sex. Of course being a Gem Sun and Mercury I understand conversation as sexy. Trust me, romantically, I would die without it. I also understand intellectual pull. I am never intensely attracted to handsome built guys. I dig funny nerds.

I just wondered perhaps stupidly out loud-- if air and water lovers are more delicate or detached in said approach.... Anyway I will stop here as I don't want to make folks any more confused or nuts than I may already (smile)!!!

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 18, 2005 06:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Natasha. We were writing at the same time. I like what you said, really thoughtful.

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Loggerhead
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posted August 18, 2005 10:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!!! It's that darn Aqua Venus again. Liligirl, I've got your number!

Shtenri -- "two or three lovers right now" --- you've just risen in my esteem by about 10 stories.

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artlovesdawn
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posted August 18, 2005 10:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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BlueRoamer
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posted August 19, 2005 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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astro junkie
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posted August 19, 2005 12:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LILYGIRL -

Since your original query targets lack of Fire or Earth, I assume you question whether someone with all Water and/or Air may not be as much as a fabulous energetic lover ...

I think anyone can look in the mirror and think they are sexy, or whatever. You might even do yourself. But something special happens when the energy of 2 people are combined. It can turn someone docile into an ANIMAL!!!

hee hee ...

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Grasshopper
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posted August 19, 2005 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex-wife was all earth and water, and she was a volcano ready to erupt once she was thawed out!

Besides, I'm all fire and air, and I like to think I manage a bit of stability, tradition and sense of spirituality in my life! It's part of how I've lived so long <wink>.

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