posted September 02, 2005 06:07 PM              

She’d been away for a long time, and now that she’s back…we were asked to come over.
I arrived right after the Sagittarian and was greeted with loads of hugs and kisses ( as usual ). Everything seemed fine…until the Leo came over. The Aqua looked confused, almost as if she didn’t recognise her own cousin.
After a few moments, assuming once she recognised her, she shouted “OMG! You actually got fatter?”

I just stood there…frozen. The Sagittarian kinda laughed nervously ( I’m assuming to lighten the mood ).

The Leo ( who was clearly deeply hurt ) stood her ground, without saying a word ( which is rare ).
Then, to make things worse, the Aquarian walked up to the Leo…looked her up and down - and told her to spin around so she can examine “how big she got”.

At that point I called out and gave her a cold look. She pouted, but changed the subject ( for the moment ).
It took her fifteen minutes to start telling fat jokes ( I’m guessing it was her way to lighten the mood or to “rebel” against what I asked her to do ).
Anyway, I was upset - the Sag couldn’t stop laughing - and the Leo was about to explode.

I wanted to say something…I wanted to shake the Aquarian…I wanted to knock some sense into her. This is hurting the Leo, badly. But I just froze, staring at the floor.

The Leo then, using all her courage, politely made an excuse and left.

I felt physically ill, and had to run to the bathroom. I couldn’t understand why I didn’t say anything. The Aquarian and I are extremely close…we tell each other anything and everything - but I just froze.

I then too made an excuse and left…feeling extremely low.

The Leo is now refusing to talk to any of us, calling us vain anorexic b1tches. Her cousins don’t seem to care, saying she’ll get over it.

I don’t know what to do…I’m now swimming in guilt and avoiding my Aquarian friend. She’s now confused and angry at me. I don't want to talk to her.

Oh God I hate this.

posted September 02, 2005 07:01 PM              

Honestly, and no offense, but how can you be close to someone who'd behave like this? Sorry but that is extremely vicious and cruel, espeically between women. I'm not at all surprised by the Leo's anger at you and the Aqua - if you say you're close to someone like that, she can only assume you feel the same as her.

Perhaps there's some kind of weird competitiveness the Aqua has going with her relatives that made her want to rub that in? That wouldn't excuse her for her shallowness and insensitivity, but it might explain it (and also reveal just how vaina nd petty your Aqua friend really is underneath). I know when I started putting on weight as a teen my b*tch of an aunt jumped on the opporitunity to make fun of me (she's a Taurus, and has always hated me). Family can be like that - they can be so cruel to each other and act like they're entitled to treat each other like that. I'm sadden that the other cousins think it's no big deal - again, family can be like that.

posted September 03, 2005 12:43 AM              

I'm sorry you were in that situation. I know exactly how you felt. I hate it when that kinda thing happens, and I can't stand hearing bit*chy people. Aquas do have a bit*chy streak in my opinion.. I wouldn't say it's "that" mean, usually (ive seen a lot worse coming from other people)..

In highschool I was in a group of people that split in two smaller groups and they absolutely hated each other..I felt like I was in the middle. The main ppl responsible for the split were my Aqua and Sag friends.. They had some massive arguments..and AquaGirl picked on SagGirl a lot, to her face and behind her back. I thought she over did it and I also thought it was very immature..She almost got suspended for it.

posted September 03, 2005 07:26 AM              

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"You must live in the infinite blackness that exists when I close my eyes. I see you when I fall asleep, I see you when I dream."

posted September 03, 2005 07:30 AM              

I would tell her how you feel.....she sounds very insensitive to me.....glad I aint got friends like her LOL !!!

posted September 03, 2005 12:01 PM              

Hmm... I'm wondering if your Aqua friend has some sort of problem with the poor Leo girl perhaps? Something that would make her want to hit out at her and hurt her feelings so senselessly and publicly?

Either way though, I feel that as her friend, you would be the best placed person to tell her that her behaviour was absolutely deplorable and uncalled for. You said that you both share everything with one another and tell each other anything... well I think this is definitely something she should be told.

If I were you, I would emphasise the 'friendship' aspect of this and let her know in no uncertain terms that it was such an awful thing to do and had such a big effect on me that I can't help but reconsider our friendship. If she can be so cruel to someone about something so trivial as their appearance, then I think it's important that she realises that far from scoring points in some bizarre Aquarian 'Shock' contest, it will ultimately lose her the respect and eventually the friendship of those she holds dear.

Btw... Yes it's true that a great many Librans are concerned with 'looks' but we are also concerned with the beauty of a situation, and most of us (sun or moon influenced irrespective I would wager,) would be horrified at the ugliness of what your friend said and did. So I would guess that if she has a Libra Moon, that's the very thing you can appeal to, to make amends with her Leo cousin and restore the harmony and the 'beauty.'

Lots of love to you,
Sarah xx

posted September 03, 2005 02:18 PM              

I can tell you, we Aquarius seldom say anything that was not calculated.

I promise you- this Leo cousin did something to humiliate this Aqua in the presence of others.

You Aqua friend was returning the favor...letting her know how it feels.

The Leo probably said something haughty and embarrassed her. We can be rather ruthless when getting our point across, if we feel it necessary.

posted September 03, 2005 03:07 PM            

Take responsibility for your actions and apologise for not reacting. Be honest and let her know that it caught you offguard and took you by surprise.

posted September 03, 2005 04:04 PM              

I can understand why you’d wonder why I’d be friends with her…I don’t really know myself. We met when we were twelve - she was a very cruel and insensitive child. Very lonely despite all her “friends”.
There was this strange feeling that I owed her something…maybe she did something for me in a past life.

Anyway, except for me, no one was ever kind to her. Her mother’s extremely vain and obsessed over her daughter’ appearance. I’ve met her, she a very insensitive woman. I felt very sorry for her…which was why I became friends with her. She never experienced love or kindness or compassion. She’s also been suicidal - I can’t help but want to help her.

You guys were SO right - I talked to her ( and after about an hour ) she told me why. It was payback - they’re constantly doing this to each other. It’s a game they’ve been playing for a long time…basically who can hurt the other more.

What she did was still WRONG - but she still doesn’t get it. She believes in an eye for an eye and is SO stubborn. I’m sick of reasoning with her…I told her this - she said this is her family not mine, and that I don’t know what’s been going on. That I should be a good friend and not get involved.

Cardinalgal, thanks for understanding. In my family there’s nothing like that, I didn’t know what to say.

Leoelf, I’ve defended people before…and some don’t like it. So I hesitated. I normally express my opinion…even tho many don’t like it but that day, I just don’t know.

“WN, let me clear things up, I hope I didnt seem as if I jumped down your throat” no no no - you were honest, I admire that.

LLL I did talk to her, but she can be very difficult - although I’m very tolerant. I know she needs me, her last boyfriend was abusive ( and he isn‘t the first - might explain her bitterness ) - no one knows this - so she’s expecting me to stay by her side…but it’s difficult when she’s being like this.

I'm still mad at her - I just wish I could get rid of this feeling that I owe her something.

posted September 03, 2005 04:16 PM              

Oh! and I apologised to the Leo. She’s still hurt, but maintaining her pride. She told me not to worry, apparently the whole family treats each other like that I still don’t think she likes me, but who could blame her.

posted September 03, 2005 04:20 PM              

Sorry, it’s very unlike me to dislike Aquas, most of them are good.

posted September 03, 2005 05:50 PM              

I don't know. These people seem to get weird fixations in their minds. I've learned to a)let them get on with it (if it's directed at me and I am not in a position to say what I feel to their faces) and play their little game all by themselves, or b) set the record straight IMMEDIATELY if I am given opportunity to do so, whoever their vitriol is directed at.

posted September 03, 2005 07:25 PM            

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are they that unemotional?

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posted September 04, 2005 03:37 AM              

first , being a friend it was your duty to point out your aqua friend's mistake b'cos a friend is not only someone who needs to be there at time of needs but also when u are making a mistake . if your friend and family doesn't help u understand a mistake , who else will ?

posted September 04, 2005 09:23 AM            

I was reading through that, very interesting, and thinking God, I don't know any Aquas like that! When I suddenly remembered a friend I had at Primary school. God, talk about tactless! Seriously, she could be mean! But almost in a Saggie way, just completely oblivious that it was really hurting someone or deliberately, because for some reason the comments were justified in her perculiar Aqua brain. I can picture her doing exactly what you described and I can also picture her as the type of person who, if you told about someone else doing the same thing, they might react with outrage and say "That's terrible! How could anyone do that?!" lol
So, I don't know.... some people just do that and don't think why. We all do things for bizarre reasons sometimes.

I feel sorry for the Leo, but hopefully, even if she's a Shy Cat, she'll have enough pride left to rise above those comments.

posted September 04, 2005 10:31 AM              

I do not know your star sign; I assume you are a water sign, which of course is the feeling sign of the zodia, like myself, being an Aries.