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libra78
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posted September 02, 2005 09:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all, this is to sort of follow up on my previous posting- I am interested in someone and she has 5 retrogrades (NOT including the North Node which makes it 6!) in their birth chart! Mercury, Venus, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Anyone have any idea as to what this could all mean together? I have never ever seen a chart with 5 retrogrades (in addition to a retrograde north node) and this is worrying me as I dont know how to analyze it. Your feedback is appreciated!

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Lauren
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posted September 02, 2005 11:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey,

this might help.. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004385-2.html

Also, as someone said in that thread..nodes are almost always retrogade. When they go direct - that's kinda like their "retrogade"..because their normal motion is retro..

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libra78
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posted September 04, 2005 02:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HI Lauren, ty for you for pointing out the thread, just what I needed

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proxieme
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posted September 04, 2005 07:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have six

You'll live.

But the NNd's always retro.
Except mine (I think that that might a true node thing...? I have no idea, no one's ever really explained it to me.)
Because mine's listed as direct on astro.com.
So, then, it's kind of Rx.
So maybe I have seven in a way

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moonstar77
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posted September 04, 2005 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstar77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not too uncommon actually. All my planets are retro from Mars onward. I've chalked it up to learning your lessons from observing within rather than observing others and learning from them. You must find yourself first before you can let others find you. Also, past life lessons tend to get repeated until you have them firmly ingrained in your DNA (seems that way anyhow).

It's not BAD. It's just that these people might not be as outgoing or direct as people with few retros are. It makes one self-sufficient in a way.

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lalalinda
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posted September 04, 2005 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 5 planets Rx also, but none are personal planets (take that back one is Mercury)

Mars and Venus are not good to have Rx because with Venus you never really connect in love (doesn't deny it you just don't feel it) and Mars Rx is where there is panic or tension when it comes to defending yourself or standing up to opposition.

These definitions are in general and will be slightly altered according to house and sign.

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libra78
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posted September 04, 2005 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks all for your feedback so far!
Lala: yea, venus retro doesnt sound too hot I cant give love if i dont feel it in return, and if she her retro venus prevents her from feeling it, I will feel her not feeling it?

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted September 04, 2005 07:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have five planets retro too although they are all the outer planets. i think retrograde venus would be tough but dont forget that other things matter a lot too. i mean, having direct venus in no way means that you are going to be satisfied, giving, or understood in love relations. i have so many hard aspects to my direct venus in the 7th that by no means is my love life satisfying its always turbulent and heartbreaking.

Rx Venus also doesnt necessarily indicate that the person wont be loving. i think that depends a lot on the sign venus is in, house, and the aspects esp to sun and ascendant. post her placements? maybe we can take a look.

for myself, retro outer planets have only meant for me that ive had more difficulty as i grow older, establishing my identity, standing up for my goals. all my headaches in life have been opposition from other people. rarely am i clouded or confused on a personal basis; never have i messed up my own life in a major way. mostly it is resentment and anger geared in the outer direction.

Love
SG

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taurean_scorpion
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posted September 04, 2005 07:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have five too but one is in TN.

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zoso
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posted September 04, 2005 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm interested in someone with a retro Venus in Capricorn, squaring to Mars, Saturn (retro), and Pluto (retro).

That sounds awful...

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zoso
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posted September 04, 2005 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*sorry double post

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steelrose
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posted September 05, 2005 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Libra!!!

I’m the one who started that thread posted earlier… I’m interested in someone with 5 retrogrades the same as you… (Well… Should I say ‘I was interested’? I don’t know… I’ve almost given up…).

I agree with Lala… Venus (and I suppose Mars either) is not a nice planet to have in retro motion. Not for themselves or the ones trying to love them… But I must say Saturn is a beautiful planet when it’s retro.

There you have another thread…
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000954-2.html

Scroll down until a post of mine starting with “Moonstar, that was beautiful…”. There we start talking about retrogrades…


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libra78
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posted September 05, 2005 05:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you ladies for your responses, and help in assisting me to understand more about these retrogrades.

SGA (and anyone else interested): here is her chart, I DO NOT know her birth time and she doesnt know either, so here is a possibility of what it could look like below.

She is 28 and looking for something permanent, and the fact that I am younger than her, and younger looking bothers her (My face and slim body make me look like im in my early 20's easily), even though she finds me very intelligent and nice.

Anyhows, below is her chart (again the birth time is inaccurate), feedback is appreciated. MY DOB is Oct 8, 1978, born at 4:26AM in Mombasa, Kenya. Your feedback is appreciated!


born on 24 April 1977 local time 03:30 pm
in Toronto, ON (CAN) U.T. 19:30
79w23, 43n39 sid. time 04:23:19

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Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Taurus 04°29'31 09 direct
Moon Cancer 14°03'22 11 direct
Mercury Taurus 13°29'56 09 retrograde
Venus Aries 08°22'46 08 retrograde
Mars Pisces 27°48'07 07 direct
Jupiter Gemini 04°23'34 09 direct
Saturn Leo 10°07'06 11 direct
Uranus Scorpio 09°59'47 03 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 15°46'49 04 retrograde
Pluto Libra 12°13'18 02 retrograde
True Node Libra 24°16'02 02 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 11°23'46
2nd House Libra 04°58'39
3rd House Scorpio 03°53'39
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 07°37'04
5th House Capricorn 12°37'45
6th House Aquarius 14°19'38
Descendant Pisces 11°23'46
8th House Aries 04°58'39
9th House Taurus 03°53'39
Medium Coeli Gemini 07°37'04
11th House Cancer 12°37'45
12th House Leo 14°19'38

Major aspects
Sun Square Saturn 5°38
Sun Opposition Uranus 5°30
Sun Trine Ascendant 6°54
Moon Sextile Mercury 0°33
Moon Square Venus 5°41
Moon Trine Uranus 4°04
Moon Quincunx Neptune 1°43
Moon Square Pluto 1°50
Moon Sextile Ascendant 2°40
Mercury Square Saturn 3°23
Mercury Opposition Uranus 3°30
Mercury Quincunx Neptune 2°17
Mercury Quincunx Pluto 1°17
Mercury Trine Ascendant 2°06
Venus Sextile Jupiter 3°59
Venus Trine Saturn 1°44
Venus Quincunx Uranus 1°37
Venus Opposition Pluto 3°51
Jupiter Sextile Saturn 5°44
Saturn Square Uranus 0°07
Saturn Trine Neptune 5°40
Saturn Sextile Pluto 2°06
Uranus Sextile Ascendant 1°24
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3°34
Neptune Square Ascendant 4°23

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libra78
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posted September 06, 2005 04:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted September 07, 2005 06:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
will let u know libra78.
right now im off to class!

Love
SG

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libra78
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posted September 08, 2005 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Node
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posted May 01, 2006 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump, and reply. Arlene Kramer.com has a posted study on this. Go there. Also, the finding regarding past Presidents is interesting. I think it says 34% of our Top leader had NO retro's. Now that is rare. I myself have 5, it pretty much says I need to stay away from people!!!!

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