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SecretGardenAgain
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posted September 03, 2005 09:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am no elizabeth taylor although i see nothing wrong with multiple marriages. anyways this is what i have noticed with the various uncles, friends etc. i have :

Fire Men:
difficult lovers, short run
great husbands, long run

Air Men:
intriguing lovers, short run
bad husbands, long run

Earth Men:
slow lovers, short run
good husbands, long run

Water Men:
great lovers, short run
bad husbands, long run.

Of course this is relative to compatibility. I am a Gem/Scorp.

Is it true for you?

Love
SG

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Gemini Nymph
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posted September 03, 2005 10:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow...well, generallizations never are true.

In my family fire men make TERRIBLE husbands in the long run, short run and anything in between and air husband are your best bet for longevity, even if there's no romance. Water men seemed to be OK, if not overly accomendating, p-whipped husbands (women in my family are serious b*tches - I'm a f'ing saint compared to them) and tend to die an early death (probably because they married one of the b*tches in my family).

Earth men - don't know any from my family, but from among friends, they seems good husbands until someone wants a divorce.

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proxieme
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posted September 03, 2005 10:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm.

Well, my Dad's Air (Libra) with a Water Moon (Cancer) and he's a horrible husband (from my 3rd person perspective) - I don't know nor do I wish to know how he was as a lover

My FIL seems like a good husband, if a little over-committed to his work (but, then, really, what can you expect of a Cancer Sun/Cappie Moon/Virgo Rising chap?).

I don't know that many other husbands - there's my own, of course.
He's a Air/Earth/Probable Water/Earth/Air/Water guy with tons of aspects to his Saturn, Mars, and Pluto (Aqua Sun/Taurus Moon/Scorpio Asc @ 29d conj. by degree Jupiter and Uranus in Saggie...so he's goofy/Cappie Merc/Aqua Venus/Pisces Mars):
He's an Aqua who's into comfort food and cuddling more than sex. First and foremost, though, he's himself - if I didn't accept that, he might be considered a bad husband; as I do, he can be a sweetie (but maybe that's just b/c my Moon's conj. his Sun to the degree and we have reciprocal conj. of our Moons and Venuses).

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26taurus
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posted September 03, 2005 11:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I disagree SG. The whole chart of someone should be taken into account. Generalizations dont hold up well.

Prox, that Sun/Moon conj. is an indicator of a very strong connection. And the other conjunctions of your Moon/Venuses - wow! That must be nice, you lucky ducks.

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proxieme
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posted September 03, 2005 11:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, one of the Moon/Venuses is just by sign - not too tight - and we have a ton of lovely red lines in our synastry...but that just keeps things interesting

And that doesn't stop me from being mad at him at the moment.

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whiterabbit
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posted September 04, 2005 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha, I like this even though it's generalized. in a way it's close. and amusing.

I can vote yes on the fire, and maybe earth.

nice thoughts.

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted September 04, 2005 02:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey guys chillax. this is based only on element, not even sun sign. of course its going to be way off. i posted it to see if anyone identifies with the patterns or not. in the end i agree that placements have to be considered. humans are so complex, even the entire chart of a person cant indicate how they are going to act. in any case thot it would be fun to see who agrees with what. maybe we can see a pattern between the posting persons sun sign and the element (hwo they react to it).

also lets remember that great, good, bad are totally relative. for ex, to me a guy who forgets my birthday may not be bad, to someone else that may be a cardinal sin. a guy who tries to be possessive is a no-no, some girls may find that attractive.

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Lauren
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posted September 04, 2005 02:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think an Air sign guy with an Earth or Scorp moon.. Venus/Mars in either fire or earth, would be best for me..

But that's just me.. Aries/Cap/Gem.. Like everyone else said it depends on the rest of the chart..but also on "who" they marry. I guess a person could be a good husband/wife to someone and seem like a horrible husband/wife to someone else..based on their own synastry, composite etc.. on the way their overall personalities mash and the way they treat each other based on that.

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freebird
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posted September 04, 2005 02:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not married but kind of agree.I would have said the same based on the elements.


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cancerrg
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posted September 04, 2005 03:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my experiences have been different !

fire man: i feel they are difficult husbands . period.

air men: completly agree .

earth men: agree (sort of) , my feeling is they are not as accomdating as they are made out to be , they are as difficult as waters.

water:i dont think they are bad husbands , they take all the responsbilities , yeah they may be bit less accomdating but u can't say they are bad . i am not saying so b'cos one freom the group. my bro in law (we share the same b day) is more concerned about his family and children than my cap sis .


btw, what about ,

fire , air , earth and water women as lovers and wives ? any ideas !

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted September 04, 2005 04:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cancerrg i agree water men are more concerned about family but the concern varies also , like i said what may be one thing for one person may be something diff for the other etc. i find water men v deep and caring but they suffocate me, the control factor comes in again

on the other hand heavy water people probably find that i am too flighty, progressive or liberal, autonomous, strong headed and what not.

if anyone is interested in reformulating this according to their sun sign, feel free to.

Love
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cancerrg
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posted September 04, 2005 04:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
they dont only suffocate u but they suffocate everyone , themserlves included .
i was reading it sometime back , though cancers try so hard for a perfect famnily , they dont really lead a very happy family life , it has a lot to do with high expectations too , thats my opinion .

and i dont think , water people have much issue with ther partner being progressive or ambitious but ofcourse wew do clash at the flighty thing . and whether u accept it or not air are known for thier flighty nature .
i have seen this with libras . i can't really say about gems b'cos they are tough to crack , i can't claim to know the real emotions of my gem friends even .
to me , i feel aquas have been the least flighty and libras the top most.

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cancerrg
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posted September 04, 2005 04:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
o , the control factor , here too i feel they are not that freaks they are made to be .
see, my feeling is someone who can put family above everything , can't reallly be a extremist . this not to say that they are not not controlling .
but sometime thier too much involvement also gets presnted as control .
i myself think , i am controlling but not so in personal realtions , they way i am in my business realtions .
now, compare this , even my gem colleagues were ,though being very competent , not as dominent players on the scence as say me or the fire people .

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whiterabbit
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posted September 04, 2005 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm gonna give it a shot:

Fire Women:
exciting and demanding lovers, demanding but devoted wives

Air Women:
confusing and challenging lovers, challenging and flighty wives

Earth Women:
skilled and nit-picking lovers, nit-picking but dependable wives

Water Women:
connected and kind lovers, kind but removed wives.

ok, so it's better for all of us to just stay lovers. This is also totally generalized. I feel like water and air and the most difficult women to make it work with, I don't know why. Just basing it on myself and women I know.. though I have to admit a large number of them are very specifically Pisces w/ Venus in Aquarius.. although for the air signs, all three kinds w/ lots of different Venus placements. A lot of Libras I know have a great deal of trouble with relationships, more than the rest of us. And a lot of them have hang-ups about men in general, or sex, or some aspect of "dating".

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted September 04, 2005 07:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WR, i like the new ideas. i think i agree with almost everything you wrote there.

as for water and air being difficult, yes yes yes. myself im an air/water sun/moon person. i dont claim to be an easy going person, just the opposite. a very difficult person to understand, a very devoted lover but i have my distinct set of needs, quirks, demands and issues. air women can be some of the most independent women of the zodiac, and water women can be the most powerful. even Pisces women with their innocence and femininity, are very powerful to men, in their own beautiful way. i remember having read that no woman will turn on an Aqua man like a Pisces woman. there is a magic to them, Drew Barrymore comes to mind.

cancerrg, i can understand what u are saying, but dont really agree, i would say in that aspect fire signs come most close with water on the control, you are right abou tthem being so involved with family that a lot of air people can think of it as control. my mum (fire/water) and my sis (water/earth) are both sooooo emotionally involved in myself and my brother that they spend too much time lamenting our behavior, crying over us, trying to change us. this is what really suffocates me. my father, with seven planets in scorpio including his sun, was constantly trying to keep all the family members on 'one track', a certain set of standards and values he felt was best. but the problem is that you can't expect your family to be clones of yourself.

a cancer man i know is v loving and caring, very involved with his family. he has a surprisingly quiet and very very meek gemini wife. i believe she has also a stellium in gem (3 or 4 planets). the man is quite the typical textbook cancer. the woman i feel has been repressed, when her husband goes out of country etc. she is so laughing, bubbly, like most gems, but when he comes back, she is demure again, because her husband does not like for her to laugh and talk loudly. theyve been married for over 30 yrs now, and have two kids (a leo male and a libra male). the entire family has been given the 'flavor' of the cancer mans attitudes and beliefs. although none of the two sons really agree with their fathers political, religious ideology, they will say that quietly in the kitchen when hes away or talk about him behind his back when hes asleep. personally i dont understand why men like this dont just let their family members have the beliefs and values they find rewarding themselves. if you love someone, set them free...if they were yours they will come back, if they dont come back, they never were yours to begin with

Love
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MoonDuchess88
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posted September 04, 2005 08:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"feel like water and air and the most difficult women to make it work with"

I agree, me because of my moody quirks...the others (air) because of their "quirks". Which is probably why I like Taurus's because theyre so stable, and other water men cause they understand me

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Lauren
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posted September 05, 2005 12:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a feeling women/men who have Sun/Moon squares and/or Venus/Mars squares could be pretty difficult in a relationship or in marriage.. just because it's very hard for them to figure out just what they want..so one day, they might like a person and the next day blow cold.

I find some ppl appeal to my aries side..other ppl appeal to my capricorn side..but they seldom appeal to both.. and I think it would be very hard to find a bf who has both aries and capricorn postitive traits (which is pretty much what I'm looking for in a relationship.. stability AND excitement) with most people I find I'd either get one OR the other, but not both.. which leaves me a bit frustrated at the end of the day..so I could definitely see Sun/Moon squares being "difficult ppl"..

also Venus/Mars squares, I don't have one..but romantically I'd imagine this would be working a cross purposes as well..

Maybe a better word for these lovers would be "confusing" though..instead of difficult..It makes it harder for other people to understand them/get to know them.

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Mystic Gemini
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posted September 05, 2005 01:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
F*** all men of the zodiac.

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cancerrg
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posted September 05, 2005 03:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SG:I UNDERSTAND .
have seen this with libra sun /gem moon bro now when i see his chart , i think we were all wrong in the way we have been dealing with him . i understand a bit ( not completly , ofcourse ) where we went wrong . with all this said , i need to admit , i really hate people who run away from thier responsibiities . i am not sure if its a gem trait but its a libra's for sure .

what are a gem's view regarding family responsibilities . what would be his reation if a situation demands that the family be put above all .

and about the control , how do u get along with aries , ain't they control freaks . for sure they are not the water kind but they have thier own way . i have a aries bro in law. again what u said about the progressive attitude not being liked , aries can be jealous people , concerned about themselves only , doesn;t your progressive attitude clash there ?

what about aqua's ? my own experience with them is , they cound't really dominate me but they have always had that superioriity complex , i am not sure if it was real superiority or a kind of inferiority . what's your take on it?

ah, ask that gem lady to show the logic to her cancer husband , what he is doing is not going to produce anything good . ask her to be herself , i am sure even her cancer would enjoy it.

hey , i dont know if i have the right to say this , what u have told about your lira bro , i dont think , there is any approach that works with them , i have libra bro too and belive me no body what to do with them , not even my father ( he's a libra tooo) .
ok, what do u think is the best way to deal with them .

where does the flighty nature come from ? can u help me undrstand this ?
i have always felt , what ever we humans do has a sound logical set up in our minds , so waht is the basis of this flighty nature .

quote:
if you love someone, set them free...if they were yours they will come back, if they dont come back, they never were yours to begin with

A libra friend once told me this . i dont know if he even belived in it but over the years i have learnt its significance .
true words .

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Lauren
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posted September 05, 2005 06:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
if you love someone, set them free...if they were yours they will come back, if they dont come back, they never were yours to begin with

Yeah I like that

I think men can get pretty possessive/jealous in general.. But Scorp and Leo have been first on my list in that area..

Libra/Pisces are least possessive (though occasionally they get jealous) Maybe that's why I like them so much. I've never been possessive myself and I can't stand possessive men. YUCK *gag* (maybe it's the lack of fixed in my chart..I don't really understand Fixed sign men..and find their "fixed" attitude possessive)

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MoonDuchess88
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posted September 05, 2005 08:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg Lauren you're soooooooo right about the sun/moon, venus/mars thing. There was this taurus guy my sag friend used to go with (if you wanna call it that ) who had BOTH pairs in exact opposition.(venus was in aries, mars in libra). It DEFINATELY showed. He was jerking her around for a while, didn't know whether he wanted her as a friend or a girlfriend. This went on until she decided enough was enough and ended the "friendship". It was only then when he conveniently decided he wanted her as his girl. That was messed up along w/ all the other sh#t he put her through.

But I know what you mean though, I have my sun and rising in exact opposition and Im not confused about what I want, I can confuse the hell out of guys just by the way I act.

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posted September 05, 2005 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, your theory does make a lot of sense, Lauren.

*gulp*

I've got a sun/moon opposition (i'm guessing that'll do it too) and a venus/mars square. Guess I'm screwed..lol.. but what you said is very true. I completely understand the part about people appealing to different sides of you but never to all at once.

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gert
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posted September 06, 2005 11:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NO NO NO There we go generalising once again.
Me thinks there is no such thing as a bad or good husband based on sun sign alone.Each one has its advantages and disadvantages:

Earth husbands are steady and dependable but can allso be monotomous and fear change.Change in a relationship is as necessary as air to keep it going

Fire husbands are intriguing and inspisiring but can allso be selfish and brutal.When one persons ego becomes the focal point of any relationship it is bound to break down

Air husbands are fun and romantic but can allso be insensitive and shallow.When one partner does not fully appreciate another partners' feelings,dreams hopes and aspirations a breakup is inevitable.

Water signs are compassionate and attentive but they can allso be vindictive and manipulative.When one person tries to control or gain power over another with emotional gains,the affair will not last.

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cancerrg
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posted September 06, 2005 11:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Libra/Pisces are least possessive

you are infatuted with libras

when that ends ( i hope that never does ) this sentence will change automatically.

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freebird
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posted September 06, 2005 12:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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if you love someone, set them free...if they were yours they will come back, if they dont come back, they never were yours to begin with

omg CG are we having same friend because one libra also told me that. Is this what libra say when they need some space?

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F*** all men of the zodiac.

I am going to look for the 13th sign.I know it was better to be lesbian but I really wouldn't want demanding,nit-picking, flighty, challenging,removed wife.Now would I ?
I would rather settle for Fire or Earth Men.

I have seen Pisces woman to be very nit-picking and extremely sarcastic.I ask one of my Pisces friend and she said that it happens to them. I still think Cancer woman are best as wives but can be really lazy.

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