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proxieme
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posted September 17, 2005 04:30 PM
 
I have a request.Could you take a look at my daughter's chart and tell me what jumps out at you? This request goes to you because I really enjoy almost every post of yours that I read; your intuitive grasp of natal charts amazes me.
As I understand that you're a busy woman with a life (and questions like this have a horrible tendency to snowball if an "affirmative" is given...), I promise not to lay a pox upon you if you refuse it 
If the answer's "No," though, please tell me so - so I don't keep bumping this up. IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted September 17, 2005 08:56 PM
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This request goes to you because I really enjoy almost every post of yours that I read
LOL...you mean, except when I'm being an a-hole?  Anyhow, I can say a few things. I try not ot say too much on children charts for a number of reasons, but primarily I don't wish to interfer too much with a parent's own understanding of their child. Witht hat disclaimer: I think the obvious thing is this chart indicates someone with a lot of social needs, most of which will manifest more in adolescence adn adulthood but you'll see it in her pretty early on (this seems like the chart for someone pretty young). Her place in the world will ultimately in among a larger network of an family that will include blood relatives as well as friends, and this friends most likely will be individuals she herself brings into the family network. She has a cradle configuration, with her Jupiter, Sautrn, Sun-Mercury and Uranus, which is often associated with social skills and abilities, but not exclusively. This is a very creative and receptive configuration, and has a kind of Vensuian quality to it, regardless of what planets make it up. I'm betting this will manifest largely in a social way, with her using her creativity and talents in social sphere, because of house placements of the planets and that Mercury is one of the planets. Her Mercury may seem no big fuss at first glance, but it rules that 11th house stellium of moon, Mars and Venus in Gem - communciation on a social level will be very signiificant to her, and she may have several natural talents here that will surface and mature as she develops. The cradle configiuration is unique because it often acts like a reciever for energy from other people, which in turn the native transforms and utilizes - this can work very well for someone in a creative field, especially acting and performing, but also in many other areas in human life that require interchange of ideas or teamwork. As a young girl, she'll need to be able to explore social avenues. If she's interested in conversing with adults or observing adult social behaviors, she should be allowed to do so. She is likely to have a very good intuition about human nature, and this will make her very curious about other people. Her main lesson she'll need to learn as a small child is boundaries - she'll want to know everything about other people, and she'll need to understand that this isn't always wise, and that we need to respect other people's feelings and privacy. She'll likely overstep boundaries often in order to learn this lesson. Guidence from adults will help her understand complexities about human interaction that she may be too impatient to learn from her mistakes alone. She may show a natural talent for charming people from the start. This will serve her well in life if not used excessively, but she needs to be encouraged not to rely too heavily on charm to get her way. She is at risk of developing self-serving habits if adults are too easily "suckered" by her charm. She should be encouraged to learn social skills, even ones that seem beyond her age (she's likely very precocious anyhow) and something like etiquette or "finishing" classes/instruction not only might help her, but she may even find it enjoyable and enable her to tap into her native social talents more effectively. Eitehr way, if she'll allow to think she cn get through life on charm, she's in for a crushing blow down the line. This isa lesson best learned before adulthood - if she has to learn this as a young dult, chances are it'll involve that 7th house Neptune, and result in deep disillusionment and discouragement. I suspect as a young girl, she'll enjoy school, as long as she can make friends there. She might be a bit of a "tomboy" and may have an interest in athletics early on, especially if friends are doing it, and she should be supported in this. She may or may not have extraordinary athletic talent, but either way she has a phsyical side to her that needs to be developed and expressed. If she develops the habit of physical activity in her youth, she will mostly liekly continue with it throughout her life, and this should have many benefits for her. Her teen years will likely be very trying for her and you (and everyone around): her social needs and talents will be her primary concern, but she's destined to make some bad choices that lead to some hard lessons. She most likely will make poor choices of friends as an adolescent, until she begins to understand how to be more selective. It's important that as her parent, that you are patient with her adn allow her to make mistakes on her own, only interferring should she put herself at risk. Chances are, she'll be pretty stubborn anyhow and won't cooperate with much meddling, so it's better to be someone she trusts during this time rather than someone she feels she needs to sneak around. As a Taurus Sun, her trust in her parents is nearly absolute, but if violated she'll harbor some very deep resentments. If you can sustain a trusting relationship with her during her teen years, it'll make this period of her life a lot easier for everyone. IP: Logged |
proxieme
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posted September 18, 2005 12:59 AM
Wow, thank you Gem Nymph.One question, though:
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LOL...you mean, except when I'm being an a-hole?
Whatcho talkin' 'bout, Willis?
re: My comment: I dunno, there must be some lurking Libra in my chart - I'm hesitant to ever say "always" or "every" (except, apparently, when I'm talking about that tendency).
I offended TINK one time with that.re: Your reading:
Thank you - you rock, kick arse, and all other things cool.
I'm too tired to make much sense right now, but promise to post later.
Oh, wait - I will say one thing: Yeaah.
Meg's only 17 mos old and she chases random children around playgroup trying to hug them.
She made my neighbor's little boy cry last night with her insistence that he really did need a hug from her.
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posted September 21, 2005 12:32 AM
Oh, so she's already showing that need to learn boundaries huh? How interesting. With all that strong Gem presence in her chart and all personal planets, she's bound to be precocious one way or the other. So don't be surprised if you need to start teaching her things that you wouldn't think one needed to teach a child her age. She probably won't be very patient with that either: Gemini makes an eager learner, but not always a willing student, if you follow me.  She'll want to learn things *her* way, and she'll frequently need redirection to keep her on the right track.By the way, Gem children (Suns or moons) tend to be naturally open to and perhaps a *little* eager about showing they like other people. That's one of the great things about Gemini that rarely gets said - Gemini likes/loves to let other people know they are liked/loved - it's really at the root of our nature (that's why Gems tend to give the best gifts). This seems more so with Gem moons than Gem Suns, although I myself had a fondness of chasing boys I liked around the playground when I was little too. There were many a cute boy that got unwillingly kissed because I was very determined to let him know he was a cutie. LOL. Even now as an adult, if I meet someone new that I like a lot I tend to be a little too enthuiastic for them at first LOL - I get misread as emotionally imature and needy often because of that, when really it's just my eternally excitable Gemini inner child coming through. Asa for my a-hole comment: Actually I know I can be rather um, "direct" at times, and some people just don't think that's cool, and I understand that. I know other people have different standards of what is appropriate, and I've definitely been challenged before regarding what I think is appropriate by people who feel I'm overstepping my boundaries. LOL. That's what I meant about me being an a-hole at times. IP: Logged |
proxieme
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posted September 26, 2005 10:00 AM
*bumping up so I can respond to later*IP: Logged |
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posted October 12, 2005 11:50 AM
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proxieme
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posted October 12, 2005 11:51 AM
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posted October 12, 2005 04:47 PM
OK, I'm going to try to make this one, big response, though it might not be too terribly clear.
Can Pluto and Saturn sitting on a couple areas of one's chart cause exhaustion?
Because that's where I am right now (for the past few months, really).
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I think the obvious thing is this chart indicates someone with a lot of social needs, most of which will manifest more in adolescence adn adulthood but you'll see it in her pretty early on (this seems like the chart for someone pretty young). Her place in the world will ultimately in among a larger network of an family that will include blood relatives as well as friends, and this friends most likely will be individuals she herself brings into the family network.
She has a cradle configuration, with her Jupiter, Sautrn, Sun-Mercury and Uranus, which is often associated with social skills and abilities, but not exclusively. This is a very creative and receptive configuration, and has a kind of Vensuian quality to it, regardless of what planets make it up. I'm betting this will manifest largely in a social way, with her using her creativity and talents in social sphere, because of house placements of the planets and that Mercury is one of the planets. Her Mercury may seem no big fuss at first glance, but it rules that 11th house stellium of moon, Mars and Venus in Gem - communciation on a social level will be very signiificant to her, and she may have several natural talents here that will surface and mature as she develops
As I alluded to before, her social needs are already quite strong.
She's only 1 1/2 years, but as far back as when she first started crawling she'd rush our neighbor's almost teenaged boys yelling, "HEEEY, HI, HEEEEY!" whenever they were outside playing basketball.
She's quite affectionate as well; this manifests (right now) mostly with me, but she'll give unexpected hugs to random children in playgroup. She's also just...nurturing.
There's no other way to say it.
She's blanketly mothering to almost everything around her...that's quite different than I was a that age, and has been a bit of an adjustment to me.
She is also *very* verbal, and has been since almost birth.
It always seemed like she knew what she was talking about, even if we couldn't decipher ("There goes Meg telling us about the secret to cold fusion again...")
Talking doesn't even require anyone to be in the room. She babbles away for a pretty lengthy amount of time to nothing (or at least nothing that we can see), and has been content since very small to talk to the wall or the ceiling.
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. The cradle configiuration is unique because it often acts like a reciever for energy from other people, which in turn the native transforms and utilizes - this can work very well for someone in a creative field, especially acting and performing, but also in many other areas in human life that require interchange of ideas or teamwork.
Now, would this also tend to make her hypersensitive to the moods of those around her?
I've noticed what seems like this tendency in her a bit - if someone around her is upset, she's generally upset until she can make them better (hence the hugs, I think) or get away.
As for creative fields, we're trying to leave all of that open and available to her.
We have a number of musical instruments (toddler-sized) that she greatly enjoys, and I make general art supplies available as well. Beyond that...well, she's not even two. I don't want to push her or be "that Mom", so that aspect's pretty free-flow.
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As a young girl, she'll need to be able to explore social avenues. If she's interested in conversing with adults or observing adult social behaviors, she should be allowed to do so. She is likely to have a very good intuition about human nature, and this will make her very curious about other people. Her main lesson she'll need to learn as a small child is boundaries - she'll want to know everything about other people, and she'll need to understand that this isn't always wise, and that we need to respect other people's feelings and privacy. She'll likely overstep boundaries often in order to learn this lesson. Guidence from adults will help her understand complexities about human interaction that she may be too impatient to learn from her mistakes alone.
I guess all (or most, anyway) toddlers don't have a great grasp of boundaries, so our approach with that has been pretty standard.
("You can't always play with that toy - when we're in a group, we share."
"Not everyone always wants hugs - you have to make sure that _____ really wants your hug, and don't get angry with ______ if they don't."
"If Harry (our cat) doesn't want you to play with him right now, that's his decision - leave him alone."
There has been that aforementioned tendency to push herself on people, but we've kinda just taken that as it comes, and've tried to instill that people and animals need alone time and don't always want to be touched.
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She may show a natural talent for charming people from the start. This will serve her well in life if not used excessively, but she needs to be encouraged not to rely too heavily on charm to get her way. She is at risk of developing self-serving habits if adults are too easily "suckered" by her charm. She should be encouraged to learn social skills, even ones that seem beyond her age (she's likely very precocious anyhow) and something like etiquette or "finishing" classes/instruction not only might help her, but she may even find it enjoyable and enable her to tap into her native social talents more effectively. Eitehr way, if she'll allow to think she cn get through life on charm, she's in for a crushing blow down the line. This isa lesson best learned before adulthood - if she has to learn this as a young dult, chances are it'll involve that 7th house Neptune, and result in deep disillusionment and discouragement.
Well, she can't charm me.
I've actually had to become a bit of a hard-arse, because she is quite naturally charming. She seems to wrap complete strangers, and even some other children, around her finger with ease and in about a minute flat.
I'll keep the rest of what you said in this section in mind; it's quite useful.
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I suspect as a young girl, she'll enjoy school, as long as she can make friends there. She might be a bit of a "tomboy" and may have an interest in athletics early on, especially if friends are doing it, and she should be supported in this. She may or may not have extraordinary athletic talent, but either way she has a phsyical side to her that needs to be developed and expressed. If she develops the habit of physical activity in her youth, she will mostly liekly continue with it throughout her life, and this should have many benefits for her.
She already loves reading, whether it's us doing it or her "reading" through a book on her own. She's also already quite physical and "tomboyish", and if anything I encourage it. She seems to have inherited my need for a physical outlet (in my case it's a 10th House Leo Mars doing the talking, I think). Ditto on keeping this section in mind.
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Her teen years will likely be very trying for her and you (and everyone around): her social needs and talents will be her primary concern, but she's destined to make some bad choices that lead to some hard lessons. She most likely will make poor choices of friends as an adolescent, until she begins to understand how to be more selective. It's important that as her parent, that you are patient with her adn allow her to make mistakes on her own, only interferring should she put herself at risk. Chances are, she'll be pretty stubborn anyhow and won't cooperate with much meddling, so it's better to be someone she trusts during this time rather than someone she feels she needs to sneak around. As a Taurus Sun, her trust in her parents is nearly absolute, but if violated she'll harbor some very deep resentments. If you can sustain a trusting relationship with her during her teen years, it'll make this period of her life a lot easier for everyone.
I've set my sights on having the philosophy of, "I'll trust you unless you prove me wrong," during her teen years (though I'd imagine that that's much easier to say now than it will be then). She gets her stubbornness honestly, whether astrologically or genetically - that's something that both I and her father understand and (I hope) will have at least a modicum of patience with.Once again, thank you GemNymph Now I'm off to go bump up that family thread.
I suck at responding in general lately, unless something's gotten me riled up emotionally.
I'm sorry for putting these threads on the backburner. IP: Logged |
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posted October 12, 2005 07:52 PM
Offended? Me? When?  prox you are soooooo not an offensive person. I think you are swell.  speaking of swell ... While I believe in the wisdom of astrology, I'm not often impressed with most astrologers. Gemini Nymph, you are an exception. Very insightful posts.  IP: Logged | |
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