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Beth
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posted September 19, 2005 07:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there,

me and my boyfriend have been having sexual problems...we just can't connect...it feels very uncomfortable...i'm not sure if it's me or him! I have a mars neptune square, can anyone help! What do you look for in synastry that can help you find the probs in this area?

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Beth
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posted September 19, 2005 07:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes in our composite...the moon is bably afflicted... Moon quare sun, venus, neptune, jupitar...Any ideas?

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proxieme
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posted September 19, 2005 08:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That and funky things going on with your Venus or Mars - like Saturn throwing his weight around in a bad way with 'em, gross Venus/Mars contacts, etc.

There are a tonne of different things that could jack up that aspect of a relationship in their own, special way - could you post your synastry and/or composite charts and/or info?

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posted September 19, 2005 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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Beth
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posted September 19, 2005 10:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ME
08/11/1985
12.45pm
Shoreham-By-Sea
England

MY BOYFRIEND
14/01/1982
5.50pm
Chichester
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whiterabbit
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posted September 19, 2005 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Beth, and welcome.
It would be easier if you went to astro.com and then to "personal portrait" and posted the list at the bottom of that page that lists your placements and aspects as well as your boyfriend's.
Is this a new problem or have things always been like this? Because synastry would be more helpful if it's a chronic thing between the two of you and transits are more relevant if this is a new thing that suddenly came up. Also your progressed composite, all available at astro.com.
When it comes to things like sex and love I don't believe in isolating a few "relevant" planets and just looking at them because I feel like they both involve our total charts. Sexual problems often have much deeper roots. Sexual hang-ups and insecurities, problems connecting with someone, fear (of pregnancy, for example).. these can all play a part. Doubts about the relationship, low self-esteem, depression, etc.
Can you connect verbally? Physically, but in a non-sexual way? You have to explore. And look at transits for both of you. Who is feeling uncomfortable? Does he seem fine?
Post more info and we can give you more ideas. Hope things get better.

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Beth
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posted September 19, 2005 08:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has been like this from the start...

ME
Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Scorpio 16°03'25 09 direct
Moon Virgo 19°49'03 07 direct
Mercury Sagittarius 09°02'41 10 direct
Venus Libra 28°37'29 08 direct
Mars Libra 07°27'03 08 direct
Jupiter Aquarius 09°12'27 01 direct
Saturn Scorpio 28°59'23 09/10 direct
Saturn is technically near the end of house 9 and is interpreted in house 10.
Uranus Sagittarius 16°19'24 10 direct
Neptune Capricorn 01°42'36 11 direct
Pluto Scorpio 05°08'20 08/9 direct
Pluto is technically near the end of house 8 and is interpreted in house 9.
True Node Taurus 09°11'14 03 direct


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Capricorn 29°33'50
2nd House Pisces 27°41'22
3rd House Taurus 06°48'37
Imum Coeli Gemini 00°46'51
5th House Gemini 19°07'26
6th House Cancer 06°47'57
Descendant Cancer 29°33'50
8th House Virgo 27°41'22
9th House Scorpio 06°48'37
Medium Coeli Sagittarius 00°46'51
11th House Sagittarius 19°07'26
12th House Capricorn 06°47'57

Major aspects
Sun Sextile Moon 3°46
Sun Square Jupiter 6°51
Moon Square Uranus 3°30
Mercury Sextile Mars 1°36
Mercury Sextile Jupiter 0°10
Venus Sextile Neptune 3°05
Venus Square Ascendant 0°56
Mars Trine Jupiter 1°45
Mars Square Neptune 5°44
Jupiter Square Pluto 4°04
Saturn Sextile Ascendant 0°34
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3°26
Pluto Square Ascendant 5°35

MY BOYFRIEND
Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Capricorn 24°14'38 06 direct
Moon Virgo 28°08'16 03 direct
Mercury Aquarius 12°54'09 07 direct
Venus Aquarius 04°58'03 06 retrograde
Mars Libra 12°12'16 03 direct
Jupiter Scorpio 07°52'29 04 direct
Saturn Libra 22°00'24 03/4 direct
Saturn is technically near the end of house 3 and is interpreted in house 4.
Uranus Sagittarius 03°21'26 05 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 25°38'16 05 direct
Pluto Libra 26°51'59 04 direct
True Node Cancer 22°26'13 12 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Leo 10°53'05
2nd House Leo 28°29'32
3rd House Virgo 21°16'21
Imum Coeli Libra 22°14'24
5th House Sagittarius 01°47'07
6th House Capricorn 10°35'32
Descendant Aquarius 10°53'05
8th House Aquarius 28°29'32
9th House Pisces 21°16'21
Medium Coeli Aries 22°14'24
11th House Gemini 01°47'07
12th House Cancer 10°35'32

Major aspects
Sun Trine Moon 3°54
Sun Square Saturn 2°14
Sun Square Pluto 2°37
Moon Trine Venus 6°50
Moon Sextile Uranus 5°13
Moon Square Neptune 2°30
Mercury Trine Mars 0°42
Mercury Square Jupiter 5°02
Mercury Opposition Ascendant 2°01
Venus Square Jupiter 2°54
Venus Sextile Uranus 1°37
Venus Opposition Ascendant 5°55
Mars Sextile Ascendant 1°19
Jupiter Square Ascendant 3°01
Saturn Sextile Neptune 3°38
Saturn Conjunction Pluto 4°52
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°14

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whiterabbit
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posted September 19, 2005 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
grrrrrrrrrrrrr

I created charts for you on astro.com and wrote a nice long analysis and then my computer froze and it all went.. well.. where these things go..

I see you've added the info though. I'll try and re-write a bit of what I had and I'm sure you'll get more replies as well.

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whiterabbit
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posted September 19, 2005 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One major thing that I noticed in your own chart is that transiting Chiron is located in your 12th house and is conjunct your Ascendant. This means it will soon be entering your 1st house. I see a surfacing of some sort of old wounds and pains: moving from the unconscious to the conscious level: so close to the surface soon that it will be impossible to ignore. All 1st house issues may be involved: image, self-image, your social/public self, your appearance, ego..
I found this for you:
Chiron in Aries (or first house) is an exercise of self-discovery. You will often find the natives speaking of their spiritual quest, the need to find personal meaning in awareness and existence. Some cope with their early wounds by withdrawing, others over-compensate aggressively. While the latter group may be courageous trailblazers when there is a personal investment in the spiritual process, unless there are other spiritual aspects in the chart, their spiritual seeking rarely extends beyond a purely personal quest. There are associations between head wounds, headaches and other head-area injuries with an afflicted Chiron in Aries, but one should look to other aspects for confirmation.

Chiron in Pisces or the Twelfth House: It's a little hard to describe Chiron in Pisces, because the crisis it creates is on a level of "Universal Consciousness". There are often religious or spiritual crises related to this placement, because the native feels more connected to the spiritual or "God" level than to the physical or material plane. The native can be drawn to angelic imagery, and they are often psychic, empathic or exhibit healing ability. Depression and drug usage are a risk, because these individuals are so psychically sensitive. Working to help or heal others can be healing to this placement, but it can also be harmful if they are not sufficiently mature to handle dealing with the stress. The native can benefit from the study of psychic protection.

So this is something that is happening to YOU, which may be playing a part in these troubles you are having with someone else. Personal issues unfortunately almost always surface between the sheets.

I'll come back if I get more ideas (very sleepy and "out of it" right now)

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Peri
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posted September 20, 2005 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope this will help Beth
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/sexandcountersex.php

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Beth
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posted September 20, 2005 05:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri thank you very much for that. It was extremely helpful! I really feel i got a task on my hands....Well, you either break down or break through!!!!

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Beth
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posted September 20, 2005 05:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
White rabbit also...Thank you very much...Really you don't know what it means to me just to have a little help! It's been killing me! So many thanks......

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Beth
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posted September 20, 2005 12:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone else have any advice?

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sue g
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posted September 20, 2005 12:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I am too a Scorpio and have been wed thrice...it is only the guy I am with now who I feel sexually connected with..the other two..it just wasnt enough!!

I think Scorpio people take their sexuality very seriously and then at times probably end up "taking second best". For me it has to be intense and a large part of the relationship, if not I end up feeling unhappy.

Have you been with him long...I dont wanna pry but it is hard to help when I dont know the story......?

If you wanna talk, always here...

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Beth
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posted September 20, 2005 12:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No i haven't been with him long...but god does it feel like years already...i guess its the venus pluto...only been with him for 4months...I just feel really uncomfortable...stiff...ahhhhhhhh its right ******* me off!!!!!!!!!

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whiterabbit
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posted September 20, 2005 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beth,
just wanted to add that the two of you have a pretty loaded 8th house in the composite chart- meaning there may be a lot of deep sexual issues to get through in this relationship. All those planets in the eight along with the aspects they make is also a good indication that there is a sense of fate being prominently involved in your relationship, also may explain why it feels so much longer even though it's only been four months.
Here are some bits and bites that I thought were relevant to your troubles: from astro.com, though you can do this yourself as well (astro click parnter)
(composite) moon square venus
The only real difficulty here is that even if you are not really suited to each other, you may be drawn together almost as if by a fatal force. By itself this aspect will not tell you whether a relationship will be a good one; it only designates the presence of this powerful attraction. Therefore you must evaluate your relationship carefully. But if you are getting along well with each other, the feelings of love between you will be greater than average, and your relationship should endure.

Sun in the Eighth House
Composite Sun in the eighth house may give the two of you a feeling of "fatedness," that this relationship is going to play an important role in your lives, even if it is not a long- term relationship.

You will be exposed to the most basic and profound aspects of your own and your partner's inner nature. Both of you will experience psychological changes through this relationship.

In a sexual relationship, physical sex assumes an unusual importance. Sex is likely to be seen by both of you as an experience that transcends ordinary reality.

Sun Conjunct Neptune

With Sun conjunct Neptune in the composite chart, there is either a lot of idealism or much self-delusion in this relationship. The challenge you face is to determine which of these is true in your case and to come to terms with this reality.

At any rate you will probably feel that the two of you have a highly spiritual union, which may in fact be so. The action of Neptune is very nonphysical, so that a love union under its influence is likely to be platonic rather than physical.

The second possibility, that of self-delusion, simply means that the two of you are not confronting each other but instead are projecting visions of what you want on your partner.

All these tactics represent insincere or self-delusive efforts to avoid the real people in the relationship - you and your partner.

Sun Square Moon

Composite Sun square composite Moon indicates a fundamental tension within the relationship.

There is a sense of tension on the psychological level, which prevents you from being really at ease with each other. However, this can also work in a positive way by making the relationship challenging and creative, so that it doesn't fall into stale patterns and behavioral ruts.

Sometimes, for reasons that are not entirely clear, the Sun-Moon square can create a rather strong mutual fascination. It is as if each of you sees in the other something you want very much, even though you cannot handle it very well. A Sun-Moon square is quite likely to be found in the composite chart of an intense love affair.

In any case, there will be considerable differences of opinion between you, which should be hashed out whenever they occur. In this relationship, repressed feelings are likely to cause potentially disastrous outbreaks of emotion when the pressures become too great.


Venus Conjunct Uranus

With Venus conjunct Uranus in the composite chart, you will have to keep certain points in mind in order to get the most out of your relationship.

If this is a sexual relationship, it is very likely that your feelings for each other arose suddenly. But no matter how intense the feeling, recognize that any attempt to hold onto this relationship is probably doomed to failure. If you want it to last, you must give each other lots of room to move.

A relationship like this shakes your established thought patterns and gives you both the opportunity to find something new in yourselves.

This relationship may very well change your life. Give yourselves the freedom to go where it takes you.

Pluto Opposition Ascendant

The opposition of composite Pluto and Ascendant can have very different effects. In any case, this will be a very intense relationship, whether it is good or bad. If you love each other, you will love passionately. If you hate each other, you will hate with just as much passion.

At its worst, this aspect denotes an endless power struggle between the two of you, with neither one able to let the other be. Such a relatonship can develop into a situation of unparalleled bitterness.

Sometimes the energy of Pluto will turn outward, in which case you will be caught in power struggles with others.

This relationship arouses energies in the two of you that will not allow matters to stay as they are. What you have to learn is that the changes you seek must come about through natural evolution, not through your urging. Even if you do not consciously work at it, the Pluto energies will operate, but they will work out better if your ego is not so heavily involved.

What you can have in this relationship, if you learn to let matters be, is a tremendously significant encounter that will revolutionize your lives and put you on a whole new path.

I notice much of that 8th house group (Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Neptune) is squaring your composite moon: you mentioned there were hard aspects to the moon- I see what you mean now!

Definitely go and read all of the interpretations on astro click partner, I find them very insightful.

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PERI: that is an amazing article, thank you for the link. I haven't read the whole thing yet, but I am definitely devoting some time for that tonight.

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Beth
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posted September 20, 2005 01:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very very much....one last question...Do you think it's possible to sort and work things through?

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posted September 20, 2005 01:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh Beth.

I know what you're saying... Linda Goodman does mention it in her Love Signs under the Scorpio-Capricorn section. It's not a "light" relationship.

Does he feel more like a best friend? Give it time... he'll let loose... and my goodness when he does!!

Try not to focus on it so much (it's hard). Once you are both used to each other and he gets more adjusted to you... the emotional wall will fall and it's perfect.

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Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury and uranus
Libra moon, pluto and asc.

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posted September 20, 2005 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beth-
of course there's a chance it may work out. guess everything I pasted sounds bad, but that's just because I was only choosing the negative aspects because of your problem.

You have a lot of good aspects, such as Venus conjunct Sun:


The conjunction of Sun and Venus in the composite chart is one of the strongest indications of a love relationship between two people, even in a friendship. It does not primarily indicate a sexual relationship; instead it signifies love, pure and simple. The attraction indicated by this aspect is so powerful that it can bring together people who are incompatible by ordinary criteria.

If the relationship is laden with conflicts, even a strong feeling of love between you may turn to hatred. In most cases, however, this will be a very fine personal relationship.

And Sun conjunct Jupiter:
Sun Conjunct Jupiter

Sun conjunct Jupiter is one of the most useful configurations in a composite horoscope. In fact, there will be growth, expansion, and luck in many areas of your lives together.

First, you will have a general sense of well-being, of comforting each other when you are together, even of nurturing and protecting.

Second, there is likely to be material prosperity. Even if you are not wealthy, you will feel that together you have enough.

Third, this aspect will have the effect of expanding your consciousness of yourselves and each other, and of increasing your understanding.

This aspect is a strong indication that whatever the basis of your relationship, it will be a good one, with fortunate consequences for you.

and Moon in 5th house:
Moon in the Fifth House 5th hs

The composite Moon in the fifth house suggests that your relationship exists because it makes you both feel good, especially emotionally.

Obviously this is a good position for any kind of personal relationship, especially a love affair. You will enjoy each other's company immensely.

and Mercury in the 8th house:
Mercury in the Eighth House 8th hs

The position of Mercury in the eighth house of the composite chart will enable you to examine in depth the psychological forces that are at work in your relationship. These forces will be brought out and examined in the full light of consciousness. For this reason, the two of you should be more capable than most people at working out problems that may arise between you.

This placement of Mercury also means that the relationship will probably have an important effect upon the intellectual development of both of you. Your way of thinking about the world will be changed, although it is not possible to tell from this placement alone whether the change will be for good or ill. In general, however, the potential for understanding yourselves and each other is very great.

and Mercury trine Ascendant:
Mercury Trine Ascendant

The trine of composite Mercury and Ascendant is a very good aspect in any kind of relationship. It has the good effect of increasing self-understanding and mutual understanding between the two of you, and it allows you to communicate meaningfully. You can easily express the important feelings about your relationship that people often have trouble saying to each other.

At the same time, this relationship will have a broadening effect on the two of you. You will become more tolerant of the differences between you as well as between yourselves and others.

It may well be that intellectual concerns such as education and philosophy will become important in this relationship. In these areas your basic mental and intellectual affinity will enable you to achieve much together. Even if this is not a working or professional relationship in any way, shared interests will play a very important part.


good luck,

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Beth
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posted September 21, 2005 05:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys....You've really helped me...I can't express how much i appreciate it!!!!!

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posted September 21, 2005 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
In all astrological work we deal with the total human being. The eighth is only one house of the chart, but can be a pivotal point when aspects and transits or progressions bring it to the fore. Some birth patterns say specifically that traumatic events will force major change in the destiny. But all lives contain some necessity and all lives will have some trauma. Any planet in the eighth will produce trauma during the life. The kind of trauma will depend on what the planet is and what it rules and what it aspects. Its depth of transformation and its quality are also shown. Pluto, dark lord of the unknown, sends its natives deep into the new territory when it occupies the eighth. Examining the rest of the chart can see how well the individual copes with that trauma and what kind of journey he or she will take into the "new country." Necessity and trauma are destiny's handmaidens which lead us where we otherwise would not go. They bring us to places where we can grow and thrive and become better human beings. When we realize we have passed into some kind of new country many times on our life's journey, there will be less to fear when we reach the last doorway of all. We will walk confidently into a final "new country."

Pat Geisler
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hey Beth, dunno if it makes any sense to you but since you have lots of planets in your composite 8th thouse I thought it might have something to do with your situation.

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Beth
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posted September 22, 2005 11:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is it possible to have a great sex life and break through the trouble of being uncomfortable....What placements could help...or even transits?

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posted September 22, 2005 02:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
another thing that I look at when looking for sexual indicators between charts are the midpoints between Venus/Mars, Psyche/Eros and Sun/Moon and if there are any conjunctions to those MPs.

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