posted September 26, 2005 02:41 PM              

Thanks friends....

posted September 26, 2005 04:05 PM              

Scorpio Mars often seems to me to want to shock, or at least unnerve people a bit. Various Leo placements do seem to want to shock.

Here's career shocker Madonna's chart (I suppose her Uranus would be worth looking at too,as it is in Leo too): http://www.khaldea.com/charts/madonna.shtml

PS. this is her confirmed birth time. I know there's conflisting info ont his, but she's definitely a Virgo rising.

And Courtney Love (Leo mercury conjunct MC - also note her Uranus is in the 11th): http://www.khaldea.com/charts/courtneylove.shtml

Interestingly I was doing some studies of "shocking" artists of teh 20th century, and Saturn, especially a Saturn singleton, was common standoout int heir charts. Sometimes Pluto singeltons and Uranus singletons seems singificant too, but not always in a "shocking" way.

These Saturn singleton artists seem to respresent individuals who upset the status quo in some conscious or unconscious form of rebellion. Among them:

Max Ernst - Saturn personal house singleton in 3rd. He was one of the earliest Dadaists and was severely criticized for his unothrodox techniques and irreverent subject matter.

Paul Klee - Saturn cardinal singleton in the 1st. Klee was an instructor that the avante-garde art school Bauhaus and was persecuted by the Nazis. His art publiclly was denounced as offensive and "dengenerate". Many of his works were destroyed by the Nazis.

Franz Marc - Saturn fire singelton in 12th; also Uranus social house singleton in 6th. He was friends of Klee and member of the avante-garde Blau Rider group with Kandinsky. Although less known than Klee or Kandinsky, Marc was very progressive minded about art's role in culture and society and was a key member of the Bluau Rider, that promoted this kind of agenda.

Wassily Kandisky - Saturn universal house singleton in 12th; alos has Pluto earth singelton in 6th. He was a member of the Blau Rider and instructor at Bauhaus. He challanged traditional color theory, objective art and art pedigogy.

Andy Warhol - Saturn double singelton, only mutable and only personal house, in 4th; also had a Pluto water singleton in 11th. Early artist of the Dada-inspired "Pop Art" trend and a walking shockfest. P*ssed off a lot of people.

I also found Uranus singletons were common too, but there was a trend that in charts of artist who were *individualistic*, without be wildly shocking on a public level, had Uranus singletons, and not Pluto or Saturn singletons. These included Mondrian, Braque, Dali and Miro.

posted September 26, 2005 04:45 PM            

A singleton, I think, is a planet which is different in some way from all the others. And I think it's usually defined by their elements but not always. Like, and Aries Moon, might be the only Fire sign in a chart, but it might also be like a Fixed planet singleton etc...

Does this help?

posted September 26, 2005 05:25 PM              

On Uranus. I know someone with a Uranus Singleton (only Fire) and he came be very mannerable and lovely then suddenly say something very very shocking (albeit usually quite funny). His conversation style is typical low key dreamy Pisces Mercury then WHAM! right in your face with something usually very unexpected. I like it though I am sure some find it unnerving. Albert Einstein also had a URANUS singleton. That singleton is often equated with intense genius and creativity of some sort. The people are unusual.

posted September 26, 2005 05:53 PM            

LILY-

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His conversation style is typical low key dreamy Pisces Mercury then WHAM! right in your face with something usually very unexpected.

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posted September 26, 2005 08:00 PM            

I leave people saying "OH MY" quite often.

posted September 27, 2005 03:20 AM              

That Magus one is such a prude isnt he - will you ever lighten up man and stop being so fecking narrow minded....Jeez some people - repressed ot what ???!!!