posted October 02, 2005 04:53 PM              

Second off, why is she on Zoloft AND Prozac? They're both SSRIs, and she shouldn't be on both at the same time, unless she's acquiring them through illegal means and self-medicating. Xanax is a very useful anti-anxiety med, but is often abused too.

Understand that substance abuse is a symptom of a much more profound illness, and her changes in her persoanlity are not attributable to the drugs alone. Emotionally and mentally she is not well, and that's what is changing her personality. The drug use is simply a means of coping with her underlying problem - a very self-destrtuctive and counterproductive means of coping, unfortunately.

As for Sun and moon sign, well, yes there are indicators in the chart of substance abuse and depression, and they are not exclusive to the Sun and moon sign. For example, I have Venus in Gem conjunct Saturn in Tau - that'sa pretty big indicator fo depression, and I've struggled with severe depression since I was 8. I also have Neptune oppo Saturn and Jupiter oppo Saturn - again more depression indicators. I also have a Pisces moon oppo Pluto - this is both an indicator of depression/mental illness as weel ass substance abuse (I abused drugs as a teen).

I personally have noticed that Saturn, Neptune and Pluto, and their respective signs Capricorn, Pisces and Scorpio, regularly play into aspects that indicate depression. Saturn and Capricorn are associated further with repressed anger, parental abuse or neglect, self-esteen issues and feeligns of inadequency or worthlessness. Neptune and Pisces are also associated with substance abuse/addiction, mental illness, hallunciations, delusions, emotional abuse, and feelings of not belonging/being "lost." Pluto and Scoprio are associated with phobias, psychological and sexual abuse, neuroses, psychosis, and addictions.

posted October 02, 2005 06:03 PM            

I have known this woman (44) for about 15 years. She moved away for a couple years and now she is back.
She was not on the rx's before she moved...
She is a Scorpio and was a little anal in ways but something must have happened to trigger her dpression. I think she started on the prozac and was switched to the Zoloft for libido reasons. This alone would cause depression in my estimation. It just seems to compound itself. You take one thing for this and something else to help with this side-effect and so on until one day your on 6 or seven things.
She has always been a drinker.. then i found out she has been dabbling in cocaine.
It is very scary.... she is very scary...

posted October 02, 2005 07:38 PM              

Will take therapy for sure.
Drinking is hard for Scorpios, they tend to like it a lot-I don't know why since I can't tell you what another person feels. Possible reasons for her depression are feeling like an outsider, unloved, not needed, not included, or pushed and shoved around. Scorpios tend to feel used.

A normal social life involving people she respects is so important, so you are right blowing people off is not good for her emotional health. Eventually she will have to mix and mingle again, with a Cancer? or possibly an Aquarius.

Antidepressants don't work that great unless they are part of a program.

As for her chart, I wonder if your friend would be up for a reading? would she listen?

posted June 08, 2006 06:08 PM              

They put me on Prozac and it put me to sleep. They put me on Effexor and it made me sick. They put me on Mannerex and it did nothing. Finally I had to shut the world out and go within to get to know myself better. During my depression I was very easily influenced by those around me. I had to shut out the influences. I am proud to say that I made it through most of my depression without meds.

i find today that doctors are all too pill happy and will really push the pills on ya. I don't like meds and will take them if I absolutely have to take them - ie UTI. Besides I have a 6th house neppy and can be quite sensitive to what goes in my body. Last year I went the Narutropathic route and it is better for me.

I have zero alcohol and drugs problems. I had a chance to try drugs before and turned down the chance. I don't like having hangovers so I hardly drink...and if I do it's 2 drinks..

posted June 08, 2006 08:25 PM              

You hit it! but many great things said.

Stargazer,

If your friend is Chem-dep She alone holds the key to her recovery. No one could tell me anything when I spiraled out of control. Of course just being there is invaluable. Just pray or send light. She is, after all, the sign of the Phoenix.

Best wishes to you both.